Fighting games copie some aspect of MK in one form or another
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posted08/12/2004 12:45 AM (UTC)by
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TonyKeo
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05/29/2004 07:21 PM (UTC)
My point is that if you have play many fighting games as I have, you are bound to see some copie that MK have done first.

Example #1
Shang Tsung was the first fighting game character to use mimic in a fighting game.
-Now you have fighting game like Tekken 3 and 4, Soul Calibur having one characters mimic everyone in that game.

Example #2
Believe or not MK 3 use the multi-tiered stage in 2D first, remember when you uppercut an MK fighter and he land on another stage.
-Dead or Alive creator whatever his name is should give prop to MK 3 and Boon for doing the multi-tiered stage first, without MK 3 doing that first who know what Dead or Alive stage might turn out right.

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07/30/2004 09:48 PM (UTC)
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Example #3
Shang Tsung was the first fighting game secret character in a fighting game.
-Now... well, all the fighting games have secret fighters.

And... WRONG FORUM!!!
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07/30/2004 09:49 PM (UTC)
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Read the rules and post in the right forums. With over 200 visits, one would have figured you would have known this by now.........
I have 1300++ and I have no clue which forum to post insad. Please close this.
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07/30/2004 09:59 PM (UTC)
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True but MK is guilty of this as well,

Characters doing mutiple styles have been used since Tekken 3, just as the detection system for seeing whether someone is open for attack has been done, this new MK version is just different in the fact that it uses bars instead of the character being different colours.

Everyone copies off everyone else.



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07/30/2004 10:04 PM (UTC)
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I read the rule AberzX, I thought I was in the General discussion but if the this thread is close then I don't mind. Sorry for the mix up.

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kingjolly
07/30/2004 10:10 PM (UTC)
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sweet topic, pleas copy and paste it in the general discussion...and to come to think of it, you are kinda right.
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07/30/2004 10:15 PM (UTC)
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I copy and paste this thread to the general discussion already. This thread can be close now, and sorry for the mix up.
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BillyKane
08/11/2004 03:59 AM (UTC)
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"Example #2
Believe or not MK 3 use the multi-tiered stage in 2D first, remember when you uppercut an MK fighter and he land on another stage.
-Dead or Alive creator whatever his name is should give prop to MK 3 and Boon for doing the multi-tiered stage first, without MK 3 doing that first who know what Dead or Alive stage might turn out right."

I don't believe that bull, because X-Men Children of the Atom had Multi-tier stages (ie Cols. stage). And X-Men Children of the Atom was released in arcades in 1994, while MK3 was release in 1995.

And on a side note, MK has copied more from other fighting games than anything.
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08/11/2004 04:16 AM (UTC)
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Shinomune Wrote:
Example #3
Shang Tsung was the first fighting game secret character in a fighting game.
-Now... well, all the fighting games have secret fighters.

And... WRONG FORUM!!!

What do you mean by this?
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CMETH
08/11/2004 04:33 AM (UTC)
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BillyKane Wrote:
"Example #2
Believe or not MK 3 use the multi-tiered stage in 2D first, remember when you uppercut an MK fighter and he land on another stage.
-Dead or Alive creator whatever his name is should give prop to MK 3 and Boon for doing the multi-tiered stage first, without MK 3 doing that first who know what Dead or Alive stage might turn out right."

I don't believe that bull, because X-Men Children of the Atom had Multi-tier stages (ie Cols. stage). And X-Men Children of the Atom was released in arcades in 1994, while MK3 was release in 1995.

And on a side note, MK has copied more from other fighting games than anything.


Not true. Every game copied off about the same. Plus, how many games have tried to have finishing moves in their games. Lets see......

1.Killer Instinct series(love the game by the way)
2.Time Killers and it's sequel or prequel
3.Primal Rage 1 and 2 (yes, there was a 2, but it was only a prototype)
4.Weapon Lord (a 2-D game that was on the snes and genesis, it was actually good)
5.Tao Feng I think, not sure about this since I never played it, only heard about it).
6.Mace: The Dark Age (unique 3-D fighter)

I know there is some lesser games I have probably missed.

So even if MK did copy off more from other games, they pretty much can since they created one of the most used gimmicks that fighters have tried to copy through out time. Funny, that the ones that didn't copy off of MK and stuck to their own plans made it far, while the copy cats died out more or less. KI was the only one I liked alot.
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08/11/2004 04:48 AM (UTC)
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Another example would be Eternal Champions which had stage finishes as well. The actually had some cool ones like knocking a character into a neon sign and watch them get electrocuted or knocking them into a high powered fan.
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BillyKane
08/11/2004 04:18 PM (UTC)
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"Not true. Every game copied off about the same. Plus, how many games have tried to have finishing moves in their games. Lets see...... "

First off, no. My point about Multi-tier stages is true. Second off, not every game copied about the same. Some did more than others. And everything "new" that has come out of MK for the last few games actually was something old. Stance changes, Run, hari kari, fighters with or without weapons...all old.

Mortal Kombat contributed one really important aspect to fighting games...and that is juggles. You ask the question on how many games that have copied Fatalities. Well look how many games haven't. Heck, look at that list you have there.
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CMETH
08/11/2004 10:45 PM (UTC)
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Oh yea, I remember many games having suicides in them. Oh wait, no I don't.

All games copy off eachother about the same, don't try to turn it into something it's not.
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BillyKane
08/11/2004 11:25 PM (UTC)
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"All games copy off eachother about the same, don't try to turn it into something it's not."

All games copy off of SF2 about the same. Fixed your quote. Have a nice day.
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CMETH
08/11/2004 11:40 PM (UTC)
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BillyKane Wrote:
"All games copy off eachother about the same, don't try to turn it into something it's not."

All games copy off of SF2 about the same. Fixed your quote. Have a nice day.


That's a good one, thanks for the laugh. My point still stands.
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BillyKane
08/12/2004 12:45 AM (UTC)
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What's your point? I'm confused. That all games copy each other the same. Cause your still wrong.

Mortal Kombat has invented juggles. And it also influenced blood use and spawned a crapload of F list knock offs. Everything else about Mortal Kombat is "been there done that." They haven't made any real contributions to the genre in years. Every sequel since the beginning has been about coping other aspects of other games, and trying to pass them off as "new."

Meanwhile companies like Namco, Sega Am2, Capcom, etc have been constantly improving and defining the genre. How can you sit there and say the games like Virtua Fighter, Street Fighter, etc...copied just as much as MK.
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