Bezou Wrote: Remember, most of the bio videos we've seen feature early builds of the game. That could explain Ermac.

... you got me there, buddy.

I think the fatalities are great. Ermac's "No, no" scream was Kobra's, and I think that if BRC actually said something during his fatality that those how saw it at GameStar would have mentioned him saying something. Unless the volume was so low, as that nothing at all could be heard. I think in the final build you'll see BRC's without that line, and Ermac having his many souls screaming.

Another here who agrees with you King_Gratz. The fatalities I've seen so far, including the new ones, are plain crap. I mean, it's just like you said. All they do is make ppl fall apart in different ways. Yay (sarcasim). From an intellectual standpoint, it's very simple to do. Make all the new models with (very poor) meaty textures that are exposed when sections of the bodies are dismembered. And then apply that to the overall fatality theme. And you have your awesome, gruesome, fatalities. NOT. It's too bad that Mortal Kombat can ride on a name now and not worry about it's true roots of plain violent and sometimes disturbing images as reward for a battle well fought. As long as people keep buying these games up, they can get away with anything. I personally would love to see a totally different team buy the MK liscense and do it right. Hell, Prince of Persia 2 has better gore and fatalities and it's just a platformer. (The most amazing one of course)
http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/654/654733/vids_1.html
To see what I mean click the above link to IGN.
No offense to you younger fans, but MK has gone the way of Nintendo. And I'm a nintendo fan, I know what that means. But ne way, at least there is chess kombat, and puzzle kombat, and simon says kombat, and jenga kombat, and monopoly kombat, and uno kombat, and..... oh forget it. LOL.
Please don't take what I say as anything more that my personal opinion, because you like what you see in the last few mortal kombats doesn't mean I am personally attacking you and your taste. Just stating that I think a high school programmer with a pentium 4, and Maya 3D, could come up with better stuff than the Midway team.

I was defiently thinking of getting this game but im not sure anymore its definitely worth a rental.Its just really hard to be a mk fan these days with fighters that fart and puke and watered down fatalities, slow gameplay and a bad fighting engine.Its sad to say but mk isnt mk anymore not what it use to be they should of never ever gone 3-d that was mistake number 1.I dont care if every other fighting game is 3d but 2d is mk and not 3d.Sadly mk never recovered from mk4 i just really wish the mk team would bring back the dark feeling to mk. I dont think it will ever come back its way to late.

king_gratz Wrote: im glad i have 1 person who agrees with me...unfortunately buddy...bo rai chos is changed...he now uses his ASS to blow the fire!!! LAME and not funny...if any of you were mature, youd realize how NOT FUNNY a simple fart is...

Who says we aren't mature. Maybe you just don't have any sence of humor. Sure, if you don't like the fatalities you have the right to say that. But don't be so immature to try and start a fight over it. I agree that most of the fatalities we've seen so far are not really original, but Bo'Rai Cho's was funny. If you do not think it's funny, allright, but do not insult people who do like some humor in their favorite fighting game (which always contained humor anyway). Like everyone else says. If you don't like it, just don't buy the game...

Most of the time I defend this game, and I like most of the fatalities I've seen so far including Sub-Zero's, Ermac's and Hotaru's, but I HAVE to be honest this time.
These four fatalities blow. I really don't understand how they go from such creative and brutal fatalities like Ermac and Hotaru's and come back with a fart one thats not funny and the body doesn't even burn which is IDENTICAL to his first one except the body doesn't do ANYTHING, a girl who stabs the doll and the arms fall off even though the arms on the doll are still there (even though I liked this one the most, cutting off the arms on the doll to make the opponents would make much more sense rather than just stabbing it) and kicking your opponent 100 feet away to where the body parts just disappear makes NO sense whatsoever. They sounded good, and when I saw them I was disgustingly disappointed. I REALLY REALLY hope they fix these things, even though there is no chance. The attention to detail combined with creativity is what makes a great fatality, and these don't have any.
But then again, there are some amazing ones like Sub-Zero's, Hotaru, Ermac, etc and they're not even on the same level. All I know is, the rest of the fatalities better be really damn good, REALLY good, or I'm going to be pissed. Those fatalities didn't look like they were even trying.

Alright Alright....
Heres my thoughts on the new fatalities:
Ashrah Fatality 1: Gathers magic under her fallen opponent and they break into pieces. Seems like it was rushed or something. I don't like it.
Ashrah Fatality 2: The one with the VooDoo doll. For some reason, I love this fatality. It's different. Thumbs up.
Kira Fatality 1: The Torso rip...Not that great. But not the worst i've seen. I like the way the legs fall to the ground.
Kira Fatality 2: Horizontal Slice...Like already said. A horizontal spin holding two daggers ISN'T gonna slice the persons arms off. I don't like it.
Bo Rai Cho Fatality 1: Fire Spit. Haven't seen it done fully so... I don't know. I assume the person gets lit on fire and falls to the ground similar to his fart one.
Bo Rai Cho Fatality 2: Fart Flame. Um.... I don't hate it but It fits him perfectly. This and Ashrah's VooDoo Doll fatality are the only 2 I really enjoyed from the new bios.
And the thing about MK always being a serious violent game series, don't forget about MK 3. Half the fucking fatalities were stupid/hilarious. MK is widely known for violence however there has ALWAYS been comedic elements thrown in. Friendships?! That began in MK 2 my friend! The SEQUEL to one of the most violent games ever!
So that statement of MK always being violent and serious.. No. Just.. No. And thats why I love Mortal Kombat. Its got something for everyone.
MORTAL KOMBAT PWNS YOU THREAD MAKER!!!!

You sure like to look only for the bad things.

By the way, I don't look for only bad things to say. I always look for positive things, and there is almost NOTHING positive in these fatalities to find. I still have faith, although its getting dimmer.
Bo Rai Cho's was NOT funny, and if you found it funny, you have the most fucked up sense of humor i've ever seen. I DON'T respect your opinion on this one, sorry. And how he says "ooooh, that was a stinky one!" could only amuse a child 6yrs old or younger.
Give me a break here, I want MK to succeed but jesus christ.

The_suit Wrote: king_gratz Wrote: and all 4 of them suck!!! lets start with asrahs voodoo doll: this makes no sense because she is standing 2 feet away from the guy, she can just slice his damn neck or something...also, if you look at it, it makes no sense...she stabs the doll and ermacs ARMS fall off??? wtf is up with that, wow and i thought nightwolfs were bad, they are improvements on this one! lets mention her second one...does every fatality in the game have the opponent ending up in pieces?!?!? i mean WTF!...all she does is make the guy fall apart using magic. thats it! simple as that! yet you ppl eat it all up! are you that easily impressed!??!?! wake up and smell the coffee, these 2 fatalities SUCK! next up, bo rai cho: he drinks his alchohol, lights a torch and then farts, creating a huge green flame which sets the opponent on fire... then he proceeds to say "whoa that was stinky one!" ...great, however, last time i checked, Mortal Kombat was supposed to be a violent serius fighting game, not a damn comedy game, you can mix and match, either pick one or the other...you cant have comedic relief on one hand and then on the other have a decapition..it makes no DAMN SENSE! damn you midway i hate you! give him back his old fatality atleast that was cool!...oh and lets not even get started on the dumb flame effects...it looked like shujinko shoulve have even died! he had like 2 pieces of clothing on fire! RIDICULOUS! yet you all love it and think its funny, I DONT! and finally, kiras: she takes out her 2 knives (wow midway was real creative, incorporating everyones weapons in their fatalities [sarcasm]) extends her arms, and then does a spin, which slices the opponent horizontally, she then kicks the opponent...next thing you know, (you will never have guessed!) the OPPONENTS ARMS FALL OFF! weeee wat a surprise! that must be the only fatality in the game where the opponent ends up in pieces...NOT!!! ...tell me, using logic, how in the hell does a persons arms fall off at the shoulder when you cut them with knives horizontally...this would require a vertical cut...but midway seems to defy logic once again and implement this vile excuse for a fatality in the game. after the fatalities are done, we are then rewarded with a 5 second view of the character until the announcer says "FATALITY"...yippeee!!! yet you people eat it all up and love it...well i am here to wake you people up, these fatalities are HORRIBLE!!! quan chis neck stretch is lightyears ahead of these in terms of creativity and coolness and entertainment...dammit am i the only one who realizes these fatalities suck??? who else agrees with me?!??! i was wondering when someone was going to start bashing these fatalities... dont worry i agree with you 100%. seriously, i dont understand why people were going crazy over these new fatalities. i see threads like "these are sick fatalities!". its your opinion and i'll respect that but seriously, these fatalities are very dull and stupid. dont say shit like, "THEN DONT BUY THE GAME!!!111!", because im still going to. i really had faith in the fatalities up until this point. both of Ashrah's fatalities suck in my opinion and kira's fatal.'s just piss me off because of how lame they are. i also noticed that they changed Ermac's voice. why the hell did they do that? i liked his old voice where it sounded like a muffled, ghostly howl. if you dont know what im talking about, check out the video's at gamespot. the one where ermac and sub are fighting.

Fatalitys aren't the only part of the game try to focus on more important details such as the story and the characters roles in the game, not to mention all the newest features (as in Chess Kombat, Puzzle Kombat, etc.) and additions (as in Characters). So just because you feel disappointed in a few "lame" fatalitys doesn't mean the game will be a failer I for one believe Midway should be given plenty of credit for their newest addition in the MK series and for making Deception in its "entierty" a real good game. I can't wait to play it!

The fatalities are only "so-so" in my opinion. I am getting sick of all the dismemberment fatalities as they all look the same but they aren't totally horrible or anything. Just kind of meh.

Jeez, ya'll gotta remember, fatalities are suppose to FIT the character. Not just throw in random shit. Everything fits everyone perfectly. With Kira and her throat cut thingy, and Ashrah and her magic and voodoo. Bo Rai Cho and his farting. Subby and his freeze. Ermac and his telekinesis. All of them fit them perfectly and they are gruesome and gory in their own way. They have wonderful stories, from what we've seen, the kast is great, graphics are great, minigames are great, features are great, online play is AWESOME. Lighten up guys. God. Ya'll talk about losing faith in MK and Midway. I don't know what ya'll are talking about. This IS the ideal MK game. I don't know about ya'll, but I'm losing faith in the fans, not Midway and MK.

I agree Threadstarterguy, a lot of the fatalities are weak, and not in the good way.
It smacks of UMK3 with all these explosions and limbs falling off.
Yes people were bound to bitch about it but...so?
Perhaps we wouldn't be bitching if they were a little different from each other.
Having said that, it can't be easy to come up with ideas that could acually be used, so it isn't entirely Boon's fault (but judging by some of the posts on this board, you'd think he was the antichrist), and i'm sure every one of these ideas wern't his.
I'm sure i'll adjust though. I did with UMK3 (and concluded that Cage's shadow kick fatality was one of the best), so i'm sure i can do it again.

fatiltys should be fan done i think i meen after all if ya think about it these guys that are doing these are like our moms and das age or a tad younger....i meen im 20 and i think these fatlitys are a tad better then any other mk game but,......still wheres the intestines, ribs and bones poking out, visious blood and gore eating monsters that will deviour thier oppoment "milinas fatility is good example of this but yet only a fraction of the potential"....so ya the fatalitys are a tad weak....does it suck?, yes can we do better? yes but can we make them do our ideas? no.....so drop it have fun with what they give us and enjoy mk

Devastator Wrote: fatiltys should be fan done i think i meen after all if ya think about it these guys that are doing these are like our moms and das age or a tad younger....i meen im 20 and i think these fatlitys are a tad better then any other mk game but,......still wheres the intestines, ribs and bones poking out, visious blood and gore eating monsters that will deviour thier oppoment "milinas fatility is good example of this but yet only a fraction of the potential"....so ya the fatalitys are a tad weak....does it suck?, yes can we do better? yes but can we make them do our ideas? no.....so drop it have fun with what they give us and enjoy mk

maybe because it is difficult to animate a fatality for every fighter, 25+, when specific details are involved. fighters are different sizes and shapes and the more little things such as intestines hanging out is difficult.

king_gratz Wrote: and all 4 of them suck!!! lets start with asrahs voodoo doll: this makes no sense because she is standing 2 feet away from the guy, she can just slice his damn neck or something...also, if you look at it, it makes no sense...she stabs the doll and ermacs ARMS fall off??? wtf is up with that, wow and i thought nightwolfs were bad, they are improvements on this one!

i doubt you have any pubes yet. ashrah shoves a knife through the dolls arm and his arm totally falls off. she shoves through the other arm and this time half of his arm to the elbow falls after dangling for a moment. she then stabs the doll again in the torso. organs and other human debris fall out of ermac and he eventually falls over.
how that is lame or worse than nightwolf's is beyond me. to each their own and godspeed on your first pubic hair which should be arriving any day now.

Where have you seen all them????+?=?

Seriously,
These are some of the best fatalities.
the Voodoo doll one is amazing.
And for those people who are like
"yo guyz, ShE jus CutZ the Doll and da ArmZ faLl oFf!"
well, as an occult scholor who ahs studied voodoo they did their homework. Granted nothing ever happens that drastically in Voodoo, but you do not actually destroy the doll you are working with. It is a channel for your energy, both good or bad.
Anyways she does cut the arms of the poppet, she just doesnt cut them off.
Kiras, nice and brutal.
Only thing I didn't like was how the head flies off thwne she kicks.
But ah well, its still good and brutal.
I love Asrahs magic Fatality. It was nice and simple.
And Bo's. Well If thios fatality was on another chracter, then Id be upset, but Bo'Rai'cho is a funny, jolly comic relief character. This fits that persona, and allows you to laugh a bit at the game.
Sure Id love 100% completely dark fatalities, with no comic releif, but this is mortal kjombat, its never going to be like that. MK7 is going to have comic relief as well. There are other games you can play if it gets you that bad.
In addition, remember that MK was originally, at leat somewhat, based off of Big Trouble in LIttle China. Now some people hate that movie because of its cheezieness and comic relief, but I personally love it. Play MKD will remind me of that movie, and I think they both form an interest genre. Serious, dark, magical, mysterious, but then light hearted.
Just play manhunt, for a seriously hoimicidal experience.

Just got on,another topic like this,your complaining isnt really gonna do anything.I dont mind people not liking them,but when you make a big deal out of it like you did it pisses me off.And where did you get the idea that mortal kombat has no humour?Apparentley you havent been playing the same mortal kombat games that I have been over the years.Bo Rai Cho isnt a bad character,his fatalities are good.I dont mind he farts for them.It can really lighten up the moment.Complaining aint gonna get you nowhere,and mortal kombat has always and will always will have a humorous side,and theres not a thing you can do about it unless you get a job on the mk team.

I knew this would happen, it always does, so it seems.
Since MK2, all the fatalities seem to have gone 'down-hill'. Only the fatalities haven't gotten any worse in my opinion.
If you remember, MK2's fatalities were pretty much all decapitations (or certainly every characters second fatality was), but the novelty of choosing from multiple fatalities made a majority overlook this fact, so no complaints!
MK3's fatalities were also recycled animations...decaps', skin rips or explosions. Same with trilogy, MK4 and MKG.
When looking back at these previous fatalities, MK:D's don't seem any worse, or less creative. I think we just tend to take them for granted now. And with over 25 characters with 2 fatals each (over 50 animations) recycling is bound to happen.
I'm sure if the next MK cut out the fatalities, we'd all welcome the ones seen in Deception in the follow-up.
I'm also sorry to say, (and I don't want to sound mean) but the fatalities in the actual game are no worse than the ideas some of you guys have come up with in several threads on here. I really don't think everyone will be satisfied with the fatalities, no matter what. We still haven't seen most of them but I'm confident that they will be deemed 'crappy' when we do, despite how they look!

I dont want to look to mk for comedy i want to look at it and be disturbed.

kira's neck slit and torso kick was cool, sure its a little farfecthed, but i liked it.
i do agree the fire effect was lame, that should be improved.
i think ashra has some of the best fatalities so far. i like the one where she makes you rot away with magic, the vodoo doll is cool to.

Ok, if you dont like them, select Baraka and at the end of the match perform the following :-
F,U,D + A2.
This might be a lot better.

i really like kiras new one yall got to understand that not all karakters got the same karakter :) Kira just likes to finish it quick and powerfull just like nightwolf while other like to take there time for a slow and painfull death.

psyclobex Wrote: I dont want to look to mk for comedy i want to look at it and be disturbed.

Then you are playing the wrong game. MK will always be like druken master or big Trouble in little China.
The game is more brutal now.
Its you who are desensitized.
If you want to be disturbed, play manhunt.