thanks alot judas the betrayer

and who asked u 2 defend me anyway it certainly wasn't i myself can't take us aka dangeros and learn to defend yourself more also a new tag team coming to town you'll know soon enough and please stop trying to use biblical phrase for u know not what u say or do for that matter just play the game fair and stop running to bo richo actually u didn't run you lounge over to his cheesey asst hanks and good night. u should pay more attention to someone on here trying to still your sindell's style of fighting thats what u should be worried about . i like the way yourtanya coming along to .

What's a couple of games? 2 out of 10? lol. Werrrrdddd. The matches you won, Im 99% sure Stretch didnt abuse free throw to Otg. And look how modest your post is. Very UN-Versatile like. Almost like you threw that in there then changed the subject. lol. I dont believe you one bit and I dont think you believe yourself. Stop your "Any player can beat any player nonsense".
What you continue to do is doubt my skill level. Well I came to PS2 and had good games. Give me an Xbox controller, would have been better. Werent you one who said Dan Sindel would own me? I remember that clearly. Go ask DAN what he thinks of my Sindel. Then MULTIPLY that by ten when Im on home turf XBOX. lil boy.
On to your Sub Zero. lol.
Now I think the ONLY reason you win with Sub Zero is through mercy. When your opponents use top tiers, they must show you mercy.
Vers Sub vs. PS2 buddies = Mercy. Vers Sub vs. Xbox rivals = OWNED. Come to Xbox. I would DESTROY you.
Sub vs. Sindel, adavntage Sub, and I would OWN you.
ASK BOUT ME.

haha nobody shows versa "mercy" and i will not when we play tonight ill play as i normally do...i hope the outcome is better than last time tho

Dangerous - You reject me 3 times yesterday. You not a man yet.

"What's a couple of games? 2 out of 10? lol. Werrrrdddd. The matches you won, Im 99% sure Stretch didnt abuse free throw to Otg. And look how modest your post is. Very UN-Versatile like. Almost like you threw that in there then changed the subject. lol. I dont believe you one bit and I dont think you believe yourself. Stop your "Any player can beat any player nonsense"."
Stretch doesn't play me any different than he plays anyone else. You're assumptions suck. You must not be that good with Sindel if you think she can't beat Ashrah when she's played "dark".
"What you continue to do is doubt my skill level. Well I came to PS2 and had good games. Give me an Xbox controller, would have been better. Werent you one who said Dan Sindel would own me? I remember that clearly. Go ask DAN what he thinks of my Sindel. Then MULTIPLY that by ten when Im on home turf XBOX. lil boy."
I don't care about how you do vs Dan. I'm not Dan. His game fell off lately and he doesn't even take this game seriously anymore. The footage I saw of your Sindel was not impressive. Talk is cheap. Come to the PS2 and play.
"Now I think the ONLY reason you win with Sub Zero is through mercy. When your opponents use top tiers, they must show you mercy.
Vers Sub vs. PS2 buddies = Mercy. Vers Sub vs. Xbox rivals = OWNED. Come to Xbox. I would DESTROY you."
The ONLY reason I think you believe Sindel to be low tier is because you're not good enough with her to compete at a high level. This is why you blame losing to Ashrah on her sucking.
lol @ this nobody hating on me. So BNR,crkfiend,alexei,quik,dan,g-roy,etc all go easy on my Sub right? What an idiot...
"Sub vs. Sindel, adavntage Sub, and I would OWN you.
ASK BOUT ME."
Sub is better than Sindel. As for you owning me, I'll believe it when I see it.
Word on the street is you could barely beat Quik the other day, and he's rusty as hell. In fact, he told me you lost the series so meh. Won't be good enough. You best not run to Bo either since you won't beat me in mirrors.
"ask about me"

You know something really funny lol.I won't say who but I was talking to a WELL respected player recently he agreed with me that in general Ashrah is much better then Subby in this game.I found that interesting actually lol.
Without that clone he's garbage from what I have seen so far.I only know 3 players that use him vers, groy and YWP.Everyone else either sucks with him or doesn't play him at all.

Ashrah IS better than Sub-Zero. When did I say she isn't? In a head to head match up Sub-Zero wins thats all.
Saying Sub without the clone sucks means nothing. Without the TS drop Dairou would be mid tier at best. Without f+3 or puke with Bo he would be medicore at best.
Also, the amount of people who play him means nothing. He's a difficult character get to a grasp of. No one plays him the right way for the most part, which is why people like Atari think Sub is no good when he's actually very good.

subby on wall can rape u hard. damn d1 in 2nd

Dragon: d+1 is my girlfriend

i've played him on my RANK WHORE ACCOUNT killer account. I lose on purpose to disguise it and play people like him, I've played him around 15 games last 2 weeks. 15-0 me :)
don't bother

People pass judgement about others based on the spelling and grammatical errors in their post. However, true ignorance goes unoticed.
I've given this young kid logic lessons in the past, but he just doesnt get it. I think he's just REALLY stooopit.
One mo gin fo ya.
If Ashra is better than Sub, but loses to Sub in a head to head, what is your definition of "Better"? "Better" as in better MKD ending? Cool weapon? Better dressed? If you said Ashra beats Sub in a fashion show, but not in MKD, then I must admit, I'd have to agree. Other than that, please explain "better" in this case.
Also, I wont go into the matches I played against Quick, but you can re-read his post about Sindel. You want to keep talking shit about other people playing me, come to Xbox and see for yourself. I came to PS2 and you were a no show. pussy. Get off punishment before you talk to me son. Go clean your room.
Now for the rest of us that are up to speed.
(Vers, you can stop reading here)
Some characters can inflict 70% damage from a sweep/poke or throw. Some characters cant even 50/50 after a throw. Guess which characters are top tier and dont need real skill to win.
Glitches such as free throws/OTG, create a definitively HUGE gap between top tier and low tier ability to compete. It's no longer a 50/50 balance beacuse the stronger characters, and I qoute, "JUST BLOCK HIGH".
With that said, it is what it is and when I'm "challenged", I fight Fire with Fire.

More blah blah from someone who's Sindel can't compete. Beat Quik then come talk to me.
Sub beats Ashrah head to head. Ashrah has no answer to the clone. Outside of that match up Ashrah fairs better vs other characters. You must have a difficult time comprehending this.
You can't beat Doohoo or Stretch but you wanna step up to me. Yeah, that makes sense.
Stretch: "tell him ive beatin his sindel with Ash without using glitches many times"
I'm on the PS2 till Monday.

Well yeah lol, it's a nobrainer that Dai without his TS is a totally different character.Still, I believe it does make a difference in a way concerning the amount of players that use him.Why?Simple reason.
Ermac is a tough character to use, yet LOTS of people use him.Ermac has some of the most ridiculous juggles in Deception if not the most difficult.
Ya have to admit that Sub-Zero lost some of his flavor.In MK, MK2, MK3, UMK3, MK4 he was sweet to use.In MK:DA and MK:D Sub sucks imo lol.He' just not the same guy that he was in MK 2 and MK 3.Nothing like it.
I love Subby in every MK, however it is a fact that Sub-Zero in the past two games has slowed down a bit and lost some power.In MK:DA he sucked ass.He didn't have his clone which meant you couldn't turtle with him in that game like you can in this game.If you wanted to turtle with him in MK:DA then all you're doing is delaying the inevitable.
I thought you said though that a good Sub player can beat a good Ashrah player though or something like that?
(not talking tier wise, we know Ashrah is better then Sub in Deception)

Me and Quick played recently. Started out 4-0 me or something. Then he played Kali Stick Fireball Kobra (I remember Quick being better than that, but oh well, guess he felt the pressure of losing) vs. my secondary line up. SOON AS HE WENT UP 6-5, out of nowhere he selects NO. Then I see him in Optimatch.
Rep whore shit right there.
Next time we play. I RAPE his Ermac with SIndel about 4-0 me again. Then I go my secondary line up again. Eventually evens series, then guess what.
*snicker*
If Quick doesnt like this or wants a series to boast about, let it be known.
Race to 10 win by 2. You will see Bo, Dai, Darius along with others.
Tell STRETCH, last time we played under his known account, full race to 10, 14-9 me.
I dont even count a series unless someone reached 10 games win by 2. Doohoo, Stretch both count series in their favor 7-6, 8-4, whatever. Even make up wins. THEY BOTH KNOW HOW I GET DOWN FOR A SERIES. STOP LEAVING BEFORE THE FULL GAMES. More Rep whore shit.
Vers, stop relying on other persons personal bullshit against me. My rival with Stretch goes back to CW days when he used to pull on me. PS2 games were fun, but I was only 75% strong. Stiil had a good record vs. PS@ best DESPITE the cheaters/disconnecters/infinte games I played.
Believe me, I would KILL your Sub. The best Sub on Xbox is NO MATCH for SIndel.
Ask Groy. He knows my MO.

idk atari,,, vers makes groy look like an offensive player.

"Well yeah lol, it's a nobrainer that Dai without his TS is a totally different character.Still, I believe it does make a difference in a way concerning the amount of players that use him.Why?Simple reason.
Ermac is a tough character to use, yet LOTS of people use him.Ermac has some of the most ridiculous juggles in Deception if not the most difficult.
Ya have to admit that Sub-Zero lost some of his flavor.In MK, MK2, MK3, UMK3, MK4 he was sweet to use.In MK:DA and MK:D Sub sucks imo lol.He' just not the same guy that he was in MK 2 and MK 3.Nothing like it.
I love Subby in every MK, however it is a fact that Sub-Zero in the past two games has slowed down a bit and lost some power.In MK:DA he sucked ass.He didn't have his clone which meant you couldn't turtle with him in that game like you can in this game.If you wanted to turtle with him in MK:DA then all you're doing is delaying the inevitable.
I thought you said though that a good Sub player can beat a good Ashrah player though or something like that?
(not talking tier wise, we know Ashrah is better then Sub in Deception)"
I'm lost as to what you're talking in regards to Ermac and such, but yes Sub-Zero was horrendous in MKDA. One of the bottom 5 worst.
When played at the highest level Sub-Zero beats Ashrah more than Ashrah beats Sub-Zero. Trust me, I have played all of the best Ashrah players. Dan,Karate,Drumz,Booya,Doohoo,Stretch,Check all of them. The one that came closest to beating me was Check in which we went even 5-5.

I can't speak for Quik, but if he did that you then that's not cool. I'll let him speak for himself in that regard, but Quik doesn't even have a good Kobra. I doubt it was him.
If you would kill my Sub then come and kill him. If you honestly think Sindel would be a problem for me then you must have the best Sindel on the planet.
I'm not G-roy. You coming to the PS2 or no?

8-4 = owned and u had to go to bo to stand a chance i beat ur bo down in a mirror and left to play stretch who left kiler b to play me....maybe if u posed a bigger chllnge than a crap bo we would stick around

Atari, what the fuck are you talking about. Here's how it really went...
I was on because I really wanted to play Stretch. He was in a match at the time and you challenged me. I played you 2 games, then left. I used Ermac both games and the score was 1-1. The reason I left was to play with Stretch, but we couldn't connect. You can even ask him yourself and he'll confirm it...
The next time I got on, you challenged me again and I accepted. We played all Ermac vs. Sindel. The score was 3-2 and my Mom called me to do something. I figured I'd play one more and let you tie it up, but I ended up winning it and it was 4-2 my favor. I even told you on the mic that my Mom called me and I had to go. I'm not sure if you could hear it through your TV, but you were the one who clicked "No" as I was telling you.
This is exactly how it went. I even gave you props, but for some reason you can't ever seem to return the favor, eh? Also, if you're going to make up numbers of games you won vs. me, at least make them believeable. Ask anyone who's played me recently, I use Ermac all of the time. Maybe a little bit of Havik here and there, but almost all Ermac. If I had picked Kobra, I definitely wouldn't of won. Then again, against you maybe I would've...
Peace...

You guys have to record your matches, cover your ass.It's the best way to go about it.
If you can do so, I suggest you do it.

Red,
i don't know what Dreddy did in your matches with him, but i got to say this, he did not move before the round and he did not pull when he played me. And i was beating him pretty good, including with Darkside Bo.
Just thought i'd mention it.

Yo Doohoo, GGs.
I know you read here a lot so I figurd I would post it here.
My plan was to go to 10, but once I got to 7-0 and that fight where it glitched out I totally lost the will to play. You telepunch me and I clone right before and u end up in the clone, but you don't get frozen. I'm like "wow, this game is fucking dumb" and just hit no after you won that. Sorry for being a sore sport but that was too much for me to continue on.
Real GGS, the score doesn't show how well you truly competed. Almost all the fights were round 3. Your NS,Raiden and Hotaru are all tough. Peace.
I hope you didn't mind me using all Sub-Zero, I figured I'd give you my best char.

GGs atari 2600 12-3 me. You used to be better or I used to be worse.

Pig - I feel you. Noticed the difference huh? lol. My timing was off. Way off.
Vers- you handled doohoo 7-0 with Sub? I must say Im impressed.