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je83, i hav good games with everyone, but if u start ducking basic free throws, and dropping before my juggles finish, thats when i click no. i refuse to play under unfair conditions.


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ok cool i was wondering i played you under your other account i noticed the lag with your ermac musta got to ya.


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also i wanna add how free throwing can help ur game, using free throws set up more mind games with certain guys.
say ur jinko i land 1-4.. now assuming im a free thrower u will try to duck. now if i think u are gonna duck after i threw u the first 2 times after that combo, i can do csu2 db3 lift,, which if u tried to duck will be all unbreakable damage . still leading to another free throw 50/50 attempt.
same with other like after ermacs unbreakable... instead of free throw i can do u2 or d2 if u duck.
so when u use free throws, it can just play more mind games, and give ur opponent a better edge. certain times letting them free throw u can lead to less damage.
say ur jinko i land 1-4.. now assuming im a free thrower u will try to duck. now if i think u are gonna duck after i threw u the first 2 times after that combo, i can do csu2 db3 lift,, which if u tried to duck will be all unbreakable damage . still leading to another free throw 50/50 attempt.
same with other like after ermacs unbreakable... instead of free throw i can do u2 or d2 if u duck.
so when u use free throws, it can just play more mind games, and give ur opponent a better edge. certain times letting them free throw u can lead to less damage.


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yes, thats why i hit no, after a couple of games.. also if u noticed i didnt hav anyone unlocked under that account that day.
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not trying to start shit mkf, but if u used dai 95% of the games, u would hav got crushed, since u would hav gotten bo. and it was proved vs groy u cant beat bo, u used dai 7 games, vs his bo, u lost 6-1.
and once again, not staring shit, dave can own ANY bo with dai..
not trying to start shit mkf, but if u used dai 95% of the games, u would hav got crushed, since u would hav gotten bo. and it was proved vs groy u cant beat bo, u used dai 7 games, vs his bo, u lost 6-1.
and once again, not staring shit, dave can own ANY bo with dai..
You miss the point, it's a match of who can play more broken which is not fun at all.
Groy showed me a few things last night that no other good bo(not even yours) have done with a free 60% from the OTG.I mean, come on now? lol
But I'm confident that Bo and Dai will both be fixed in MK:A for sure.Those two are the two prime examples of this games brokenness lol.
I'm sure they'll tweak the smoke cloud too.When buffered at times, there's no defense against it.
You're telling me that if Bo was fixed Bo would be any good?I don't think so.Dairou, all they need to do is slow down his TS and it's a different ballgame with dairou, bo on the other hand needs LOTS of work.One, his bo has more distance then Ron Jeremy in a 70's porno film, second his OTG's, third his infinites.
Dairou, I could have counterpicked a him a few times when he picked first but I didn't because that's lame.Besides, as I said before Red, my Kabal has been hot lately so I'll go with the hottest guy for me at the time.
Besides, I wanted to see his bo.Very good dirty bo I must say.
I still say though Red, for clean bos Gerchap is king but for dirty lol I don't even know anymore.Groy, Stretch, HB etc.So many players are the master with the dirty bo it's ridiculous.
No offense to people who play them like that just saying in general.I'm not knocking anyone.
I almost wish I mastered Bo now, but the character bores me and I already use Dairou so no need to master another broken mess in Deception.
I'll keep playing with my current characters, dai here and there will come out.
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Not trying to start shit of course, but you do realize by now that Dairou is better than Bo right MKF? I was just making sure because by the way you talk about Bo it still doesn't seem to be clicking in your head.
Bo does not need more fixing than Dairou. The TS drop is a hell of a lot worse than weapon f+3. weapon f+3 can be blocked, sidestepped,etc. Jumping is unnatural, and you only have to do it vs Dairou, and even then it comes out so fast that reacting late is almost a given. Don't even say Bo's OTG is broken, because even with that OTG there are still a bunch of character who do more damage or just as much as he does "legit"(shujinko,sub-zero,jade,ermac,etc). While the ratio is of winning/losing is horrific, PLENTY of characters can beat Bo Rai Cho here and there. Nobody can beat Dairou.
There's so many glitches that go along with the TS drop that you've probably never even seen. Dai is much "dirtier" than Bo, and if you can't see that by now Dave will show you when he comes to the Xbox.
and lastly, please stop with the clean/dirty bo shit. It sounds totally scrubby. Bo played at a high level is played with his glitches. Clean Bo is redundant and retardedly recreational. I like Gerchap. He's a nice guy, but nobody ever talks about him being one of the elites, and that's the reason why.
Bo does not need more fixing than Dairou. The TS drop is a hell of a lot worse than weapon f+3. weapon f+3 can be blocked, sidestepped,etc. Jumping is unnatural, and you only have to do it vs Dairou, and even then it comes out so fast that reacting late is almost a given. Don't even say Bo's OTG is broken, because even with that OTG there are still a bunch of character who do more damage or just as much as he does "legit"(shujinko,sub-zero,jade,ermac,etc). While the ratio is of winning/losing is horrific, PLENTY of characters can beat Bo Rai Cho here and there. Nobody can beat Dairou.
There's so many glitches that go along with the TS drop that you've probably never even seen. Dai is much "dirtier" than Bo, and if you can't see that by now Dave will show you when he comes to the Xbox.
and lastly, please stop with the clean/dirty bo shit. It sounds totally scrubby. Bo played at a high level is played with his glitches. Clean Bo is redundant and retardedly recreational. I like Gerchap. He's a nice guy, but nobody ever talks about him being one of the elites, and that's the reason why.
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Not trying to start shit of course, but you do realize by now that Dairou is better than Bo right MKF? I was just making sure because by the way you talk about Bo it still doesn't seem to be clicking in your head.
Bo does not need more fixing than Dairou. The TS drop is a hell of a lot worse than weapon f+3. weapon f+3 can be blocked, sidestepped,etc. Jumping is unnatural, and you only have to do it vs Dairou, and even then it comes out so fast that reacting late is almost a given. Don't even say Bo's OTG is broken, because even with that OTG there are still a bunch of character who do more damage or just as much as he does "legit"(shujinko,sub-zero,jade,ermac,etc). While the ratio is of winning/losing is horrific, PLENTY of characters can beat Bo Rai Cho here and there. Nobody can beat Dairou.
There's so many glitches that go along with the TS drop that you've probably never even seen. Dai is much "dirtier" than Bo, and if you can't see that by now Dave will show you when he comes to the Xbox.
and lastly, please stop with the clean/dirty bo shit. It sounds totally scrubby. Bo played at a high level is played with his glitches. Clean Bo is redundant and retardedly recreational. I like Gerchap. He's a nice guy, but nobody ever talks about him being one of the elites, and that's the reason why.
Not trying to start shit of course, but you do realize by now that Dairou is better than Bo right MKF? I was just making sure because by the way you talk about Bo it still doesn't seem to be clicking in your head.
Bo does not need more fixing than Dairou. The TS drop is a hell of a lot worse than weapon f+3. weapon f+3 can be blocked, sidestepped,etc. Jumping is unnatural, and you only have to do it vs Dairou, and even then it comes out so fast that reacting late is almost a given. Don't even say Bo's OTG is broken, because even with that OTG there are still a bunch of character who do more damage or just as much as he does "legit"(shujinko,sub-zero,jade,ermac,etc). While the ratio is of winning/losing is horrific, PLENTY of characters can beat Bo Rai Cho here and there. Nobody can beat Dairou.
There's so many glitches that go along with the TS drop that you've probably never even seen. Dai is much "dirtier" than Bo, and if you can't see that by now Dave will show you when he comes to the Xbox.
and lastly, please stop with the clean/dirty bo shit. It sounds totally scrubby. Bo played at a high level is played with his glitches. Clean Bo is redundant and retardedly recreational. I like Gerchap. He's a nice guy, but nobody ever talks about him being one of the elites, and that's the reason why.
I know what you're saying, and I never said Bo is worse then Dairou of late but the fact of the matter is they're both broken, they both need lots of work.The game itself, I know there's infinites in this game besides them and who knows perhaps some that neither of us know about but I honestly don't care to.The games glitches are already played with at high level so no need.
I'm only pointing out how a player who choices to play clean with Bo as oppose to one who doesn't.All I'm saying man, regardless of "level" they play.
I mean, yeah I agree with what you're saying but in a tourney lets say that bans these glitches or some of them, it would be interesting to see a nasty Bo player adapt to cleaner terms.I can be wrong of course but I think they would have a hard time playing a "toned" down versions of Bo, lets say that "toned down" as oppose to clean that sounds more "tea party" like.
And one more little thing man.yes, the F+3 can be blocked however when it hits you at mid screen that's broken seriously, not even talking if I'm dairou against anyone man.That F+3 combined with the quick recovery=very broken all I'm saying man.
They're both really bad brokenwise when played at high level(to win) that's how I feel.With that being said, broken is broken man.No two ways about it, it comes down to ohh this guy is more broken then this guy but to the player or at least players like me, I don't want anyone to be broken, broken is broken to me either way so debating over who's worse is kind of pointless to me.
mkf, just because dairou is better than bo doesnt mean bo still cant beat him.. take my advice, learn bo, and pick him when someone picks bo instead of choosing dairou.... youd think it wouldnt matter, but trust me, under most situations online due to latency, bo is a better choice vs dai then picking dai.
picking bo against bo is the same. dai vs dai is the same. but just because dai is the best doesnt mean that using dai against him is the best choice. its just equal. bo vs dai is not, it can favor either.
dont let people choose their matchups over you everytime... force them to "counter" your choice, as long as both players respect each other they can both choose an equal character and chance vs each other.
sorry i havent gotten back to you about mk3, let me know if u still need help with it. and remember what i said, learn bo. it might also help you learn him better when other people try and play him versus you, peace.
picking bo against bo is the same. dai vs dai is the same. but just because dai is the best doesnt mean that using dai against him is the best choice. its just equal. bo vs dai is not, it can favor either.
dont let people choose their matchups over you everytime... force them to "counter" your choice, as long as both players respect each other they can both choose an equal character and chance vs each other.
sorry i havent gotten back to you about mk3, let me know if u still need help with it. and remember what i said, learn bo. it might also help you learn him better when other people try and play him versus you, peace.


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u just proved u havent played my bo in over a yr, if u think groy is the only one with the 58er..... me and groy and atari all use it, thats why HBs bo is old and outdated.
where do u think my 90% damage combo comes from
12cs3cs b2 walk under free throw cs12cs2
free throw cs12cs2 58% u hav a weapon out its over 60%
but its alot harder to time than the darrius 60% otg.
plus u dont no how to jutsu,,,, when u can jutsu u weaken bo.... do it once or twice and now thst free throw they go for they 2nd guess it cause u jutsu it, now u eat the 58er.
i beat groys bo with dai, we only played 1 match... but dai can beat bo.
where do u think my 90% damage combo comes from
12cs3cs b2 walk under free throw cs12cs2
free throw cs12cs2 58% u hav a weapon out its over 60%
but its alot harder to time than the darrius 60% otg.
plus u dont no how to jutsu,,,, when u can jutsu u weaken bo.... do it once or twice and now thst free throw they go for they 2nd guess it cause u jutsu it, now u eat the 58er.
i beat groys bo with dai, we only played 1 match... but dai can beat bo.


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Dairou brings out the worst in me I'll do everything short of an infinite to beat Dairou. You like the 90% I did with Darrius? LMAO!! I've got a question how does Dave do that double t/s drop. I saw the video with Illfakeu and he did a t/s drop almost like back to back that shit seemed impossible.
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mkf, just because dairou is better than bo doesnt mean bo still cant beat him.. take my advice, learn bo, and pick him when someone picks bo instead of choosing dairou.... youd think it wouldnt matter, but trust me, under most situations online due to latency, bo is a better choice vs dai then picking dai.
picking bo against bo is the same. dai vs dai is the same. but just because dai is the best doesnt mean that using dai against him is the best choice. its just equal. bo vs dai is not, it can favor either.
dont let people choose their matchups over you everytime... force them to "counter" your choice, as long as both players respect each other they can both choose an equal character and chance vs each other.
sorry i havent gotten back to you about mk3, let me know if u still need help with it. and remember what i said, learn bo. it might also help you learn him better when other people try and play him versus you, peace.
mkf, just because dairou is better than bo doesnt mean bo still cant beat him.. take my advice, learn bo, and pick him when someone picks bo instead of choosing dairou.... youd think it wouldnt matter, but trust me, under most situations online due to latency, bo is a better choice vs dai then picking dai.
picking bo against bo is the same. dai vs dai is the same. but just because dai is the best doesnt mean that using dai against him is the best choice. its just equal. bo vs dai is not, it can favor either.
dont let people choose their matchups over you everytime... force them to "counter" your choice, as long as both players respect each other they can both choose an equal character and chance vs each other.
sorry i havent gotten back to you about mk3, let me know if u still need help with it. and remember what i said, learn bo. it might also help you learn him better when other people try and play him versus you, peace.
Thanks, I see what you're saying.Perhaps I will mess around with Bo a little, we'll see.
BTW, man I'll PM you about the other stuff.If you see this before the PM though yeah man lol.I'm lost with that man, I googled it and I was brought to the menu, I think I downloaded the wrong one man LMAO.
Yeah, I feel bad asking for help man.If I'm bugging you, it's ok man.
Darrius 90%? I remember you doing a 65% around there but not a 90% assuming you were talking to me.Not sure if you were.
Red, I've played Atari in a shorter time then you.He didn't do that either, he was just using QR into F+3, throw, repeat.
Groy was doing more damage.
I like Smoke vs. Bo though to be honest.Get some damage, turtle, turtle.
What's the order with Sindel's btw between Groy, Dan and Atari?
Who's the best in order?
BTW, red I don't use Jutsu/QR any of that.
Hopefully they take that out for MK:A, but I won't go nuts if they keep it in there.Just rid OTG's, infinites, free throws and I'm good.


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I played all 3 Sindels enough. In my opinion Atari has the best. Followed by Groy than Dan. Atari has more tricks.
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"I mean, yeah I agree with what you're saying but in a tourney lets say that bans these glitches or some of them, it would be interesting to see a nasty Bo player adapt to cleaner terms.I can be wrong of course but I think they would have a hard time playing a "toned" down versions of Bo, lets say that "toned down" as oppose to clean that sounds more "tea party" like."
True story, but any respectable fighting game if Bo was banned Dairou would be, too. Why would you ban the 2nd best character and not the 1st?
"And one more little thing man.yes, the F+3 can be blocked however when it hits you at mid screen that's broken seriously, not even talking if I'm dairou against anyone man.That F+3 combined with the quick recovery=very broken all I'm saying man."
I didn't say Bo's f+3 is not broken. It's one of the top 3 best moves in the game, but it's still not more broken than the TS drop, and it's blockable. When it all comes down to it it's just a mid with a lot of range and high priority.
"They're both really bad brokenwise when played at high level(to win) that's how I feel.With that being said, broken is broken man.No two ways about it, it comes down to ohh this guy is more broken then this guy but to the player or at least players like me, I don't want anyone to be broken, broken is broken to me either way so debating over who's worse is kind of pointless to me."
That's fine, but if you're going to keep saying "nice DIRTY bo" and all that shit you should start saying dirty dai. It's the same shit except Dai is a helluva lot harder to handle at a high level.
I was the best Bo Rai Cho player online and the win ratio between my bo and dave's dai was like 65/35 his favor.
True story, but any respectable fighting game if Bo was banned Dairou would be, too. Why would you ban the 2nd best character and not the 1st?
"And one more little thing man.yes, the F+3 can be blocked however when it hits you at mid screen that's broken seriously, not even talking if I'm dairou against anyone man.That F+3 combined with the quick recovery=very broken all I'm saying man."
I didn't say Bo's f+3 is not broken. It's one of the top 3 best moves in the game, but it's still not more broken than the TS drop, and it's blockable. When it all comes down to it it's just a mid with a lot of range and high priority.
"They're both really bad brokenwise when played at high level(to win) that's how I feel.With that being said, broken is broken man.No two ways about it, it comes down to ohh this guy is more broken then this guy but to the player or at least players like me, I don't want anyone to be broken, broken is broken to me either way so debating over who's worse is kind of pointless to me."
That's fine, but if you're going to keep saying "nice DIRTY bo" and all that shit you should start saying dirty dai. It's the same shit except Dai is a helluva lot harder to handle at a high level.
I was the best Bo Rai Cho player online and the win ratio between my bo and dave's dai was like 65/35 his favor.


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Darrius 90%? I remember you doing a 65% around there but not a 90% assuming you were talking to me.Not sure if you were.
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Darrius 90%: weapon stance 3,cs, 1,2,3,cs,ss cs, throw OTG 1,2,3,4,4. I caught you with it in one of our matches

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Is this a Good Games thread, or a technical thread? Im confused.

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Good games to Pilot Shinji I, and Killer B... I can hardly beat either of you, but always have fun playing....
There were a couple of other people not from the boards that I don't remember. Also good matches... Tho I think I stomped all of you...
Great games everyone..
There were a couple of other people not from the boards that I don't remember. Also good matches... Tho I think I stomped all of you...
Great games everyone..
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good games to Quest, Deadly Rain, MEsoFLY, OJ's Glove (kept going to "no", reconnecting, then finally took me off friends list), and NoobResist.


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groy that combo, not sure if it works.. i believe the plant move dont connect off 3. 3 cs 123cs ( the plant misses) and if it hits, i think u can qr from it. but this is also my connection. u can do that kang 43cs cs 11 so maybe u can also land that combo off 3.


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groy...when you said learn free throws against you it seems we go pretty even when we pley w/out free throws but you tend to beat me a lil more when we do use free throws. just an observation. always good, challenging games tho. and yea how does he do that double t/s drop? i've been trying lately and can't pull it off.
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"Is this a Good Games thread, or a technical thread? Im confused."
Listen to what Dan said.
Listen to what Dan said.


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groy...when you said learn free throws against you it seems we go pretty even when we pley w/out free throws but you tend to beat me a lil more when we do use free throws. just an observation. always good, challenging games tho. and yea how does he do that double t/s drop? i've been trying lately and can't pull it off.
groy...when you said learn free throws against you it seems we go pretty even when we pley w/out free throws but you tend to beat me a lil more when we do use free throws. just an observation. always good, challenging games tho. and yea how does he do that double t/s drop? i've been trying lately and can't pull it off.
Our last series we had was close because you won 4 straight against my sub-zero I was up by 1 at 6-5 and then you left that was the only time it was close. I was going to bring out someone else to take down your raiden because that's not a good matchup for my subby I was going to go on a wicked winning streak.


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ill say this, the t/s somewhat works like the puke, and the hellfire :)


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GG'S MEsoFLY very fun matches.
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