yeah i think they should have that...
but this is probably the 5000th thread about this
theres too many repeated threads

justycist Wrote: yeah i think they should have that... but this is probably the 5000th thread about this theres too many repeated threads

yes, queve's post was the first that i had seen, and the majority of repeated threads are posted by none other than urbansmooth himself

manny86 Wrote: justycist Wrote: yeah i think they should have that... but this is probably the 5000th thread about this theres too many repeated threads yes, queve's post was the first that i had seen, and the majority of repeated threads are posted by none other than urbansmooth himself

LOL, thanks, manny.

However, I'm serious on this realistic gore thing. MK needs to be much more realistic in the gore department. When a fatality is done, I don't want my ister to laugh when she sees them being done (which she does). I want her to have to leave the room and clear her throat of bile, due to her sudden disgust with seeing a very realistic mess of internal organs.

So, can you do it, MK? Can you make my sister throw up?

The goal is not just to make a female sibling throw up, the goal is to make the internal organs of the MK characters much more distinguished!

I wrote alot about this stuff in Queve's thread as well.

MK's fatalities need to be more gory, and there needs to be way more gore period. When players get there stomaches cut open, i want to see intestines, guts, the liver, rig cages, lungs, everything. When a player gets blown up, i dont want to see flesh that looks like popcorn. I want to see bloody chunky pieces of real looking human meat.

Also, if a opponent loses limbs, i want to see alot of blood dripping down realistically, and the opponent needs to be screaming in intense pain. Guts and all needs to come out of stomaches. Liver, organs, and everything else needs to show and look mad REALISTIC. The fatalities need to be so gory and disturbing its not even slighty funny.

I want it all to be so gruesome, dark, and just plain nasty and evil. This needs to be a sick and dark MK game.

Why?

I have to agree with the fact that the game needs to retain the dark and gothic theme that was expressed in Mortal Kombat II. This is something that the series has lacked since that game launched, and it seriously needs to be rekindled.

However, you don't need over-the-top gore. It's pointless. The reason why the fatalities were so cool in the original games was because they were morbid and yet strangely humorous.

Think about the classics over the series' history.

Remember the first time that Sub Zero pulled off someone's head and the spine was still attached and dripping blood? It was so great because it was funny and just went so far out there.

Possibly the best fatality ever in the history of the games was also probably one of the best. Quan Chi, in MK4, ripped off someone's leg and beat them to death with it. That was gory and over the top and me laugh my ass off.

The point is, Mortal Kombat fatalities have always been about dark humor, not about intense realistic gore.

The fatalities are closer in spirit to Evil Dead 2 rather than Friday the 13th....

Dark_No0B Wrote: I wrote alot about this stuff in Queve's thread as well. MK's fatalities need to be more gory, and there needs to be way more gore period. When players get there stomaches cut open, i want to see intestines, guts, the liver, rig cages, lungs, everything. When a player gets blown up, i dont want to see flesh that looks like popcorn. I want to see bloody chunky pieces of real looking human meat. Also, if a opponent loses limbs, i want to see alot of blood dripping down realistically, and the opponent needs to be screaming in intense pain. Guts and all needs to come out of stomaches. Liver, organs, and everything else needs to show and look mad REALISTIC. The fatalities need to be so gory and disturbing its not even slighty funny. I want it all to be so gruesome, dark, and just plain nasty and evil. This needs to be a sick and dark MK game.

No, no, no, you're wrong! The fatalities need to be serious, realistic business!

That Quan Chi fatality where he ripped off your leg and beat you with it was stupid. All he did was rip off your leg for the FATALITY end of it.

The beating could have been done in the match! There was no damage done from the beating. So, basically, the fatality was just him ripping off your leg.

That's a pretty sad fatality!

When I see a fatality, I don't want to see someone's leg ripped off! Open up their chest and cause them to die from loss of internal organs, not just loss of blood!

The best fatality in all of MK was Kung Lao's Vertical Hat Slice fatality from MKII. Why? Because it was some pretty morbid stuff!

Get my point? MK has gone past the point of limbs falling off. You can play almost any game to acquire limbs falling off.

MK is the grandmaster of gorey games, and as graphics and realism improves in videogames, so does the MK gore!

HOLLA AT THE SMOOTH!

i think they do need to be alot more gory.... but the fatality's dont have to be realistic,like if someone punches someones and they blowup....unrealistic.... but i wanna see there organs and arms and legs and blood and not just a few little stumps like mkda..even tho there fatality;s where cool!

Holy crap! what is wrong with you guys? One minute you are saying that it is Mortal Kombats GAMEPLAY and unique character stories that got you hooked in the first place, but it is obviously the GORE. There is plenty of shit on the web that can get you guys off.

The reason I state this is because, earlier I posted a thread which talked about how MK needs to push the envelope and have ripped clothing and bruises, now this ripped clothing idea could lead to a little nudity. But you guys pissed all over this idea.

It's obvious that most people find nudity more offensive than someone getting their spinal cord ripped out of there back. Where the fuck are your priorities? It just dosn't make sense to me.

I agree with Keepoppin on this one. Excessive gore isn't something I want. Like Kee said the fatalities have always been about dark humor which it should stay that way. Rather than add all the organs and intestines and what not, I say give us better screams and death sounds.

The Quan Chi leg fatality had me laughing it up just thinking, "oh my god, thats great!" The SubZero head rip in the original set the standard and turned a lot of heads.

I agree with Sub, there's really no need to make the fatalities excessively gory. The way they were in MK2 is fine...a little more detail in the parts, definitely, but I don't think the gore needs to be excessive at all. Just QUALITY, excellent and dark fatalities is all I ask for.

The reason i want it to be really gory is because of MK development. All the characters so far look good, the feeling is dark, the stages seem perfect, and the death traps make it even more intimidating. Add the gory fatalities to this and you've got one good game. Fatalities are something that needs to look REALLY painful. The winner needs to be mean, and hardcore, completely destroying his/her opponent.

I dont want them to go OVERBOARD by seeing 45 brains and 32 livers, i just want them to include all these things so it looks more detailed and realistic. I want them to be gruesome.

Where to begin...

First of all, this is a video game. People generally play video games to experience things that you would otherwise not experience in real life. It's for the fun factor and the distraction from life.

As I stated earlier, the fatalities have never bordered on reality. They have always been about the dark humor in the event..


If you'd like to see realistic blood and gore, go rent a Faces of Death video...

Dark_No0B Wrote: The reason i want it to be really gory is because of MK development. All the characters so far look good, the feeling is dark, the stages seem perfect, and the death traps make it even more intimidating. Add the gory fatalities to this and you've got one good game. Fatalities are something that needs to look REALLY painful. The winner needs to be mean, and hardcore, completely destroying his/her opponent. I dont want them to go OVERBOARD by seeing 45 brains and 32 livers, i just want them to include all these things so it looks more detailed and realistic. I want them to be gruesome.

keepoppin Wrote: Where to begin... First of all, this is a video game. People generally play video games to experience things that you would otherwise not experience in real life. It's for the fun factor and the distraction from life. As I stated earlier, the fatalities have never bordered on reality. They have always been about the dark humor in the event.. If you'd like to see realistic blood and gore, go rent a Faces of Death video... Dark_No0B Wrote: The reason i want it to be really gory is because of MK development. All the characters so far look good, the feeling is dark, the stages seem perfect, and the death traps make it even more intimidating. Add the gory fatalities to this and you've got one good game. Fatalities are something that needs to look REALLY painful. The winner needs to be mean, and hardcore, completely destroying his/her opponent. I dont want them to go OVERBOARD by seeing 45 brains and 32 livers, i just want them to include all these things so it looks more detailed and realistic. I want them to be gruesome.

You dont seem to understand where i'm coming at. Obviously, not all the MK fatalities are realistic, subzero freezing you and exploding you, quan chi stretching your neck, and others, cant happen in real life. Where i'm getting at is simple. I want it to be more gory, showing organs and such of the human body when exploded, cut, etc. Again, this is called development.

If someone explodes, wouldnt you rather see guts, intestines, more parts, bones, and etc? I would. Its way better than seeing flesh that looks like popcorn. Basically so far, all the characters just explode in blood and flesh pits, i think it needs to look better.

If baraka cuts you open, would you want to see the blood come out for a couple of seconds and then fade away, or would you rather see blood constantly drippint from the body part? I would. I would want to see blood dripping all the time, leaving an actual cut mark on the human body. If he cuts your stomache, i want to see guts and such come out. Again, i'm not coming overboard with this, i just want more detail, its better and more intriguing, yet disgusting and evil at the same time.

Seeing liver, intestines and such being cut open looks way better than seeing a stomache cut open and a chunk of blood falls and thats it. If the human head explodes, i want to see pieces of brains laying around. If an arm of leg is ripped off, i want to see constant bleeding from the spot. If a body explodes, i want to see real looking flesh and material. Get where i'm coming at?

Its not that much of a big deal, and i dont care BIG for this, but i think it would be interesting if they were able to pull this off. The gorier, the better in my opinion.

I agree whole-heartely that the bloody popcorn isn't very nice. In fact, it's less than adequate.

It's the same problem that several of the fatalities had back in the days on the arcade. When a body would explode, several limbs and rib cages would litter the environment.

I understand fully that you would like to see more realism in the graphics department but it just seems sometimes that you would like to take things to the extreme. There is a limit, afterall.

Dark_No0B Wrote: keepoppin Wrote: Where to begin... First of all, this is a video game. People generally play video games to experience things that you would otherwise not experience in real life. It's for the fun factor and the distraction from life. As I stated earlier, the fatalities have never bordered on reality. They have always been about the dark humor in the event.. If you'd like to see realistic blood and gore, go rent a Faces of Death video... Dark_No0B Wrote: The reason i want it to be really gory is because of MK development. All the characters so far look good, the feeling is dark, the stages seem perfect, and the death traps make it even more intimidating. Add the gory fatalities to this and you've got one good game. Fatalities are something that needs to look REALLY painful. The winner needs to be mean, and hardcore, completely destroying his/her opponent. I dont want them to go OVERBOARD by seeing 45 brains and 32 livers, i just want them to include all these things so it looks more detailed and realistic. I want them to be gruesome. You dont seem to understand where i'm coming at. Obviously, not all the MK fatalities are realistic, subzero freezing you and exploding you, quan chi stretching your neck, and others, cant happen in real life. Where i'm getting at is simple. I want it to be more gory, showing organs and such of the human body when exploded, cut, etc. Again, this is called development. If someone explodes, wouldnt you rather see guts, intestines, more parts, bones, and etc? I would. Its way better than seeing flesh that looks like popcorn. Basically so far, all the characters just explode in blood and flesh pits, i think it needs to look better. If baraka cuts you open, would you want to see the blood come out for a couple of seconds and then fade away, or would you rather see blood constantly drippint from the body part? I would. I would want to see blood dripping all the time, leaving an actual cut mark on the human body. If he cuts your stomache, i want to see guts and such come out. Again, i'm not coming overboard with this, i just want more detail, its better and more intriguing, yet disgusting and evil at the same time. Seeing liver, intestines and such being cut open looks way better than seeing a stomache cut open and a chunk of blood falls and thats it. If the human head explodes, i want to see pieces of brains laying around. If an arm of leg is ripped off, i want to see constant bleeding from the spot. If a body explodes, i want to see real looking flesh and material. Get where i'm coming at? Its not that much of a big deal, and i dont care BIG for this, but i think it would be interesting if they were able to pull this off. The gorier, the better in my opinion.

DusterLoader Wrote: Holy crap! what is wrong with you guys? One minute you are saying that it is Mortal Kombats GAMEPLAY and unique character stories that got you hooked in the first place, but it is obviously the GORE. There is plenty of shit on the web that can get you guys off. The reason I state this is because, earlier I posted a thread which talked about how MK needs to push the envelope and have ripped clothing and bruises, now this ripped clothing idea could lead to a little nudity. But you guys pissed all over this idea. It's obvious that most people find nudity more offensive than someone getting their spinal cord ripped out of there back. Where the fuck are your priorities? It just dosn't make sense to me.

No one is talking about nudity.

What we DO want is more realistic internal organs in MKD, because it's the realistic thing to do. When someone is cut open, they are not filled up with chunks of meat and blood only!

There should be MOVING PARTS INSIDE! Intestines, stomach, pancreas, appendix, liver, colon, bladder, arteries, rib cage, veins, etc.

Dark humor?
Sure, MK should have some humor in it. Humor is always welcome as long as it's in good measure. However, I've never found any of the MK fatalities to be funny. If an MK fatality attempts to be humorous, it ends up being stupid. Quan Chi's STUPID neck stretcher and leg beat both qualify for that. They should be serious business about finishing off your opponent: getting rid of them in a bloody, realistic way!

Why is that one guy bringing up media content outside of MK games? We're talking MK games here not video clips or tapes. We want them to improve MK, not Faces of Death.

Really, all I'm asking for is a realistic account of internal organs inside a character's body to be exposed and spilled in MKD.

How many posts does it take to get Midway's attention!?

urbansmooth Wrote: How many posts does it take to get Midway's attention!?

No idea. But gore is one of MKs staples. Even the creators admitted the original MK wouldnt have been the bombshell it was without the gore. We need organs, intestines, and such. MK=GORE!!!!

MetadragonX Wrote: urbansmooth Wrote: How many posts does it take to get Midway's attention!? No idea. But gore is one of MKs staples. Even the creators admitted the original MK wouldnt have been the bombshell it was without the gore. We need organs, intestines, and such. MK=GORE!!!!

Yes, and we need the MK team to STEP UP the gore! No more fake-looking "organs."

There should be a whole mess of wet, pulsing, internal organs, still somewhat connected to their adjoining neighbors!

This includes rib cage, sternum, stomach, intestines, veins, arteries, colon, bladder, kidneys, pancreas, liver, gastric fluids, stomatch fluids, bodily water, blood, muscles, etc, etc, the list goes on. Just make a wet, sloppy mess of WELL-DESIGNED and HIGH-QUALITY internal organs when such are summoned upon a corresonding fatality.

You have just reached the point of "Obsessive Tit."

nudity on us kids scale equals YUCK!and cool but I say gross but i'm getting off topic.Intestines sound good heck this rules majorly

Thank you, keepoppin, for the lovely title.

Let us, once again HOUND on the topic of realistic internal organs in MKD and future MK games!

You think a polygon count would be too high for realistic internal organs? Nope! You're not working on the game, so how would you know? I don't even know! All we can do is request that which we wish for!

You guys look at too many negative factors. Please discuss what positive things you would like to see in MKD. (such as realistic internal organs in fatalities)

I am posting a random sentence. Who is willing to take two-to-one odds that UrbanSmooth responds with the usual, completely ignoring the content of my post?

Interesting conversation..

I have to say Mortal Kombat should definitely rest somewhere between both in the next generation.

Dark Humor is the core, and is what keeps it interesting. Things would be boring if we weren't able to do crazy things sometimes like Sub pulling your skeleton out of your back.

But also it needs more detail to push the envelope and show us it is a next generation game.

I'm sure some of you may have played Soldier of Fortune..
I have played the sequel, and that was the sickest game I've yet come across. My high rez half a face shot off with brains showing and leaking out amazed me..meaty chunks of leg, deep gashes, and organs. I've yet to see anything like it really. Maybe that's what we're looking for.

(I'm of course I newcomer to posting, though I've been enjoying reading this this board for a while)

komodai Wrote: Interesting conversation.. I have to say Mortal Kombat should definitely rest somewhere between both in the next generation. Dark Humor is the core, and is what keeps it interesting. Things would be boring if we weren't able to do crazy things sometimes like Sub pulling your skeleton out of your back. But also it needs more detail to push the envelope and show us it is a next generation game. I'm sure some of you may have played Soldier of Fortune.. I have played the sequel, and that was the sickest game I've yet come across. My high rez half a face shot off with brains showing and leaking out amazed me..meaty chunks of leg, deep gashes, and organs. I've yet to see anything like it really. Maybe that's what we're looking for. (I'm of course I newcomer to posting, though I've been enjoying reading this this board for a while)

I don't consider having your skeleton pulled from your back 'dark humor.' I think that's some pretty good stuff right there.

However, beef it up some more! Perhaps there should be more dripping blood and organs hanging off of the skeleton. They could slowly drip off the skeleton, making a truly messy finish.

Sure, keep fatalities over the top, like pulling entire circulatory systems through peoples mouths, and stuff (some of you may consider this 'dark humor').

When I say gore, I mean internal organs. I don't mean that the blood drippage and splashage has to be 100% realistic. We want all of that to be over-the-top.

When I say realistic gore, I mean internal organs that look as real as possible to the real thing!