exactly my point


I dont want to bother decoding it, Im just gelling like a fellon.

Im just pissed in all of this crap, he cant be straight foward
when i said pointless i meant that we're not gonna achieve nothing w/this...gut feeling,I hope there's SU by doing this thou
(game is at my g/friends house,so i cant do it)

dude he said its hard as hell to hide shit from us....wink wink!! they never said get a double flawless and fatality on the pit in mk1 while santas fly across the moon to fight reptile...they left it up to us to find!!

so dont be mad be happy this game rules as is!!! but the more people that help insted of bitching...the sooner we will know the truth!! and the truth is THERES ALOT MORE TO FIND!

jackson said it all guys!!....eveyrone needs to learn how to read!!! these are educated people...the didnt really answer the good questions properly like they did the others...just read the transcript...yes they are fucking with us...but for a good reason....just look and we will find somthing....and why did no one mention the fucking kodex why why why.....its there for somthing... and FOV 120 dudes...it means somthing!!! Boon was still wanting to answer more questions too...did anyone notice...he was being real cool this time ...and last time he was a complete dick head!!!

so please keep this bumped and post what you find here...ill do the same!!

if i missed any hints pleas post them as well!

Once again FOV means Field of View in programming. 120 or 102 was the setting. This is an easy one if you've done any programming.

The MK checkers thing was a joke by Boon.

People are looking way too into everything being said. It means nothing. It was asked twice if there were more than 24 characters, there are none, and no more than 12 in puzzle mode.

We have the text of everything in Konquest mode which hints at fighting Mokap and Drahmin, those are the scripted events boon said he didnt think anyone found yet.

The Kodex is nothing more than spoilers to the characters back stories and relations.

STFU...you cant read can you...dont fuckign psot if you DO NOT BELIEVE IN WHAT WE ARE DOING...everything you said is your oppinion...not ours...so please no more posts from people who think this is all bllshit.....he said there are a TON of secrets left...and some timed secrets we havent unlocked your jsut to stupid to see that clearly typed infront of your face...same thing with the checkers....why would he JOKE for no reason unles sit was there!! its all in how you took it...


Heres the whole damn MIRC LOG! ENJOY!
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Ed Boon was also kicked by MKBOT

To start things off, users like Zynthetic ask if there are super unlockables outside of the select screen's 24 available slots?

Well, there are not any additional hidden selectable characters on the main menu

I think there are a TON of hidden features in the game, but not all of them are additional characters

Hey....you want the truth or you want a good story ?
True That
word

CYD Vicious asks What were some of the programming obstacles that were difficult to overcome in the development of the game?

I think one of the biggest obstacles was getting the online play to work smoothly....

Todd Allen and Jim Terdina were the main ones involved with that programming......

Another interesting challenge of was getting all the modes of play working.....Puzzle, Chess, Konquest, Fighting...etc

the hidden MK CHECKERS game was a b**** to program as well.

The MKO user TheOmniOni wants to know if you can shed any light on what to expect as the extra content for the GameCube version of Deception?

i can handle this one
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Scott-Howell> Alright

You do that.

Yea, you can.
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Tim-DaRosa> the gamecube version will definitely include some new features...some that you may have already heard about and others that we've kept under wraps
* DArqueBishop sets mode: +v Paulo-Garcia

Hi Paulo

Hi

i'd venture to say that excl characters will definitely be a good "possibility" and you can also look forward to some new gameplay features...more on the latter later :)
Hey everyone Paulo has joined

also safe to say that online will be missing, but we'll make up for it...that's a promise

ShingoEX was wondering how you can really "hide" anything more in games, since the internet is being used to spread information, and people are actually hacking into game files to find info about the MK secrets/unlockables.

I'll take this

You do that.
it's definately tough nowadays
how's that?
the truth is it's really difficult.

Stuff gets leaked before the game comes out now and it's tricky
We have to really bury things now..

Shang_Heihachi has noticed that a large portion of the game, such as character roster and story arcs/endings, seems to have been popular on the forums long before the release of MK Deception. That said, about how much of the total game was influenced by user feedback and input at MortalKombatOnline.com?

i'll take this
We pay pretty close attention to what players want

Yeah...people have been asking for certain characters for years now....
i say this: we definietly listened to the fans when they wanted more fatalities and interactive arenas. We specifically made it agoal to give the fans a big dose of them.


We got to bring a lot of people's favorites back in Deception
but the roster is really big now.....
Very little of the storyline was influenced by fans. There have been a couple exceptions where a fan proposed a possibility and we worked with it.
Yea...we wanted to open the levels up

i think its also safe to say that the chat rooms on mortalkombatonline are a major source of feedback for midway's mk team

Yea, the team visits mkonline.com a lot

The S asks would like to know if the the seventh game in the Mortal Kombat series will be for the next generation consoles. Does this mean the game will use an all-new fighting engine, or will it continue to expand upon the one from Deadly Alliance and Deception?

TO be honest we haven't started designing MK7 yet

I got a few background ideas
But it will probably be a MAJOR change in just about every dept....kind of like MKDA was for last generation of consoles

just a quick comment to the fans...keep in mind that mk shaolin monks (recently announced) is NOT going to be mk7...

KaneRobot would like to know with the announcement that there will be a new MK game every year, is this series going to become "Madden-ized" where you just see a few small changes every year, or will this be a situation where you get Shaolin Monks, then the next year you get a full-on MK game, then the next year another side story, then the next year another MK game, etc?

We dont ever plan on taking small steps....

We would like to make MK expand far beyond just fighting games
Shaolin will help explain the storyline..
games beyond that will push things even further
Shaolin is coming along great

We have quite a few games planned out
ooops....did I say that out loud?

Its looking good...the environments have alot of atmosphere
Definitely, and if you liked the opening cinematic for Deception....just wait till Shaolin Monks!!!
it is going to be Krazy
with a K
Tony, what's your favorite environment that's planned for shaolin?
the monks opening is going to rule
I happy with the Tombs from MK2

Sumixam would like to know if in Mortal Kombat 7 you will be expanding the game to where you can create your own warrior, for example selecting from hundreds of bodies/clothes etc. What do you think about this idea?

All we can say is that its a really good idea
thats all I'm saying about that

muff said
MKO user Born_Again_Vampire would like to know about how you guys feel about your role in the creation of what is a very violent game? Do you feel any social obligations to making less violent games or keeping these games away from kids who are too young?
MK is like a box of chocolates...

It would be fun to create your own guy and fighting him online
you never know what you're gonna get

Uhh.....thats a really old question that should have been asked 12 years ago
have you heard of a game called GTA? Manhunt? Just curious.
Some games are not for kids...and we fully support the ESRB and our M rating

Hevoy Russell was curious why FMVs were not used for endings. Obviously FMVs are expensive, but should we expect more FMVs in future Mortal Kombat titles?

we have a rating system in place now to address the violent content issue.
They take alot of time to create..so with a tight deadline its hard to make over 20 FMV's
I always have thought that gameplay > FMV'S

Our new FMV department is AMAZING....we plan on working with them a lot more in the future
It gets really difficult with 24 characters 24 alternates and environments for each..
Well, creating 25+ FMV could take up a LOT of time and resources...

fmv's take alot of tiem and effort
FMV's are really time konsuming and would require a huge team of people to create quality FMV endings for all the characters....

We'll look into NIS movies that use game assets and backgrounds

We would love to have tons of FMVs tho...
Yea..anything to save time

or eevrybody could wait an extra year for the game and pay $30 extra. How does that sound?

LinKueiAgent asks if there is any importance on the fact that, when scrolling from the 'A' koffins to the 'T' koffins, that the koffins turn to WQ, with 456 Onyx Koins, then revert back to normal when scrolling stops? Also, when scrolling from T to A, how come the koffins are normal?

LinKueiAgent asks if there is any importance on the fact that, when scrolling from the 'A' koffins to the 'T' koffins, that the koffins turn to WQ, with 456 Onyx Koins, then revert back to normal when scrolling stops? Also, when scrolling from T to A, how come the koffins are normal?
I've never seen this...I will look....but I am pretty sure that this is nothing that is in the game on purpose.......John Nocher was the programmer who put this feature in the game
I doubt he put something in the game without anyone on the team knowing....
never heard of this

but then again....
Is the Nooch around?
i put that in the game.... JK

thats the ghost of the Krypt, check your koin count - it changes one out of every 1000 times that happens! when Stryker runs by...

Ok next question contains a spoilers guy
Cover your eys
er eyes
*Ending Spoiler* MKO user Dion asks with the way Noob-Smoke's ending is laid out, can we expect any Sub-Zero/Noob Saibot rivalry in future MK games.

i'll take dis one...
John Vogel could probably take this
WhereisQaunChi 456
Shhhhhh
just kidding
yea just kidding

That would be a likely situation. It would be kool to see the two brothers fight it out in future games. At least it's different from the Scorp-Sub rivalry.

Anything to mix the story up a bit

Ok next
Gary Felts has asked us about the fact that in online play, players are finding ways to use infinite combos like for Bo Rai Cho and other characters. He wants to know if there is anything you guys will do to address this, etc.

I hope the next generation system allow for easier game patching

infinite combo's and exploits will always be found in fighting games
Online might introduce some slightly different rules....perhaps expanding combos....thankfully we added the Breakers to not let them get completely out of hand

RIght now there are no plans to patch the game
Paulo is right

AustinGoldMan asks what is the signifigance of Raiden's Staff, the colored keys, the ninja star in Konquest mode?
lots of arcade testing helped iron those out
Vogel?

I didn't write the part about the staff....
I'm not sure what's goin on there...
I've never even heard of colored keys before..
John, just make something up !!!
I think it has something to do with the Kai npc. its more of a story line side-quest not too signifigant

Ready for next question?
the colored keys just open doors that are normally locked in that realm
Ninja star is useless... no purpose.
Oh man !!!!! Dont spill da beans !
And without purpose... we would not exist!

MK Online users Sin Syde wants to ask you guys if we can ever see the return of Friendships in Mortal Kombat 7?

Babality!
friendships blow
Friendships got a little too silly
raiden staff is a item that you can return to kai for a reward.
I dont know about that - maybe a super secret feature

I'm for no-block humiliations, specially online. I think we need something new tho.

What up!
Greenberg in da house
Hey Jon!
ya
Hey, Jon, you're sitting right next to me
Greenberg = Graphics programmer for MKDA and Deception
OMG

Tony-Goskie> John helped the artist out a lot

sukkuh!
BOOT !

Yea Jon is awesome - he is the only on eto have his photo in the MKDa krypt -twice

and Canadian
Yea, unfair
I'm the team's token canuck
(Please do not msg me directly.)

Anyway... are there any plans in effect for a release of the GameCube port of MK Deception outside of North America?
take off eh

no
Heh
at this moment, nope...focusing on US first and we'll go from there
Oh MAN !!
wah wah waaaahhhh
wait a minute..... wait a minute I heard that...

Sekerah asks, "Some people, through hacking of the game, have found useable Puzzle Kombat models for every character in Arcade mode plus Onaga, Monster, and Ghost. Is there any possible way to play as these characters without a cheating device?"
tsorry
Hey, not just the US. It's in canada too. so technically, its international
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Monster?
Growl
Good answer
Ahhhh the nexus
The Hub of the Realms
Ever heard of a Super Unlockable ?
I'm actually a Super Unlockable
Its true
he is
True Dat
I heard Gor....
My name is Blinky
yars asks, 'The superunlockable question was unclear. Are there ANY other playable characters in the game (aside from the 24)?'
yes
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WQ456
TZIMISCE asks, "'do any of you guys have gamertags and if so what are they?...i'm sure we'd all love to have a chance to fight the actual development team.'
yay!! no more ed... now we can get down to biznazz!
M4C's coming to get Ed back in :)
I haven't played Live since Decemeber
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I play on xbox
The Kublah Khan
December that is
There are no additional Puzzle characters other than the 12 in the main select screen
I use a PS2 controller, tho.
vogel cheats

I was beating homies up the first week, but you guys are getting really good... to good
"too"
over a 1,000 people here.....hey-hey

Tr4v15 asks, 'We are wondering if there are time locks and we may not find some stuff for a very long time, maybe a couple more weeks, is this true?'
vogel does not cheat

there are time hidden things in konquest. some of them have been found already

what was the latest question?

I know of a few timed events that havent been found yet

TemperaryUserName asks, After such a negative reaction from many fans, particularly the Smoke fanbase, is there a chance Noob or Smoke will be seen in MK7 as complete and individual characters?"
1,138 online
what negative reaction?

I think Smoke/Noob is one of the best liked characters

i like Noob and Smoke a lot....i thought it was a really fresh game mechanic
well, things change a lot from game to game anyway

I always hear (read) that Noob-smoke is well recieved. I've never heard of anyone bein bummed. But I suppose the two could be separated.
John-Vogel> Maybe a new pairing will happen in the next MK

Bishop one last question after this one
Yup Ed
keep us up to date with the # of people in the chat room for cryin out loud!
Kabal and Styker
1,156 people

Murdoink asks, "In order to please the fans and expand a MK game beyond its default kontents, would you add a downloadable content feature in the next MK game?"

Greenberg?
hahaha we may
Oh that helps
Jon-Greenberg> its really up to MS and Sony
We are definitely going to explore downloadable content in future mk games
we're definately looking at it

FOV 120
mortalkombatonline.com RULES!!!!!
yes it does

It was not by chance that this chat came to be...
Ok and we're done!
born of Deception

no, not the secret krypt kode!
bye everybody - we hope that the next game you will be so pleased that wont need to make downloadable kontent!
FOV 120 dudes
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Yay
SPIDER KHAN 4832
Lower Mines!!

And still, no playable Reiko.... or is he superhidden?
Holy crap
Reiko = S.U.
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Reiko = S.U.V
Reiko = Shao Kahn
Punch the old Lady at exactly Midnight
you wont be sorry
Time to drink
haha
well, she is old. she clearly deserves it
* Murdoink runs to Konquest
Yeah, I got a nice bottle of scotch waiting for me...
for the record, folks... the reason Raiden and the deadly alliance couldn't defeat the DK is because he had the Kamidogu on him at the time. They gave him some amount of invincability. In the arcade mode, you try to weaken him by taking the Kamidogu away. That was the initial plan, anyway.
Johnnie Walker callin'....
Bye all
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"invincibility"
Johnnie Walker Black, at that.
der
he means the DK has the kamidogu
Thanks for the details, Vogel
Bye all....and see you at 5:00am in ORderrealm

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in chaosrealm i think there is a hint. Because when u talk to 2 of the grave keepers in the chaosrelm cemetary they hint you in saying i like to wonder in the cemetary. i have a feeling its something to do in the krypt.

Ok, you guys can take this however you want. I just scanned over the Fight Night transcript and either one of two things is happening.

1. Boon dicked with us the whole time and pulled a Midway. There really is nothing left.

2. DarkCarnival is right and this is all one stupid game. In the transcript itself they asked Boon a question about how he feels about shit getting leaked to the internet before the game is out since in this day and age, information flies. Boon said that due to the all of the fans/internet/guides, etc. , they REALLY HAD TO BURY STUFF IN THIS GAME.

The conversation doesn't add up because they couldn't give straight answers, especially about SU. Yeah, Boon does say no flat out, but when asked again at the end of the transcript, the whole fuckin team kept saying shit like: yes, no, maybe, we'll see, etc. you get the point.

And what's with all the secret code gibberish the the MK Team was spouting off?

Besides that, what's with the Kodex? What relevence does that have?

I don't know, there seems to be too much shadiness going on around here. I've never really understood why Boon would just give shit away about secrets like he's done in the past. Why wouldn't he try to play it off this time?

I'm not saying that there are SU but we'll have to wait and see.

and now that i think about it....why after they made so many people HAPPY with this game...would they go and LIE and JOKE to piss over 1,000 of their fans off...after they straigh said the fans mean alot to them!!! im sure it was all fake...im sure the team wants a ass load of pissed off emails and letters from fans the teased about somthing that wasnt true....god you so stupid....like is said just try things out whats it hurting....i mean your here wasting time making posts on topics you disagree with!! so why not waste some time trying to some of the HINTS!? i dont get it??

DarkCarnival...

the hidden MK CHECKERS game was a b**** to program as well.
(that was a joke)

Did you read the log that you just posted? Boon said himself it was a joke.


As for the Chaosrealm graveyards, the spirit they are refering to is Noob Saibot who is in the graveyards until you beat him.


I havent stated total opinion, I have stated facts and the logical conclusion from those facts.

Carnival I was Thinking and playing orderrealm and when Boon said see you at 5:00 am at ORderrealm I know this is a stupid theory but OR could stand for the color Orange Which the sidewalk is ORange and guess what its at H-5 which brings you out to -1 to A-9 .........just trying to help out...

be serious guys! they knew nothing about mkd! every question confused them. this chat did nothing. there is nothing good left in mkd.

like i said iny our psot...your on to somthing there man...why did he put two cap for ORderrealm?

and sup zero is right as well they talked why to much code and gibberish to be jsut ficking with us!! i agree the checkers was a joke! or was it...did he say that to throw us off..t.hey said and i quote this night didnt happen for no reason!!!! and once again why the hell didnt anyone ask about the kodex the biggest mystery we know of..it has to be used for somthing...its not there for no reason!!!

I fuckinig knew it. I said to one of my friends while the chat was going on that even though it was stated TWICE that there's really no extra characters, people would STILL refuse to believe it. Too predictable.

lol yea they knew nothing baout it...it confused them...you dont find that stament strange??? WTF??? your being simple minded!!!

an think of it this way everyone...what if there is somthing and we brush all this off and dont even try to find it and we miss out on the biggest secret in fighting game history!!

but then again what if there is nothing!...at least we all try together as a community to learn the truth for our selves not sit around and wait for somone else to say yes theres another secret...or no nothings left...

Boon said theres more..soo nuff said theres more...there is no reason for them to get everyone pissed at midway after how wounderful this game has done with the fans...they gave us fuckin hints....missing peices to a puzzle that we gotta figure out!!! so come on give us credit for trying!!

cause when and if we do find somthing...we will know we did it our self!! and we can tell our kids yo we are the ones who cracked the ultimate kombat secrets of MK:D (to me thats somthing to be proud of!)

i remember i was the person who figured out glacius's fatality on KI B B B B+6 and i still to this day feel so proud i fgured somthing so minute and simple out!

and i wanna feel that way again but i wanna share that feeling with other this time! so ether help or get to steppin mufucko! lol

who said they are characters?? BOON DID THATS RIGHT...you knew shit...no i knew it...i knewif people used the hints that was givin people would flame the ones trying...so HAHA i knew it first grow up and fuck off!!

have respect for the people who give a fuck and arent mindless picky little spoiled brats...im happy as a school girl with this game as is dman it...but they said there is more...fucking read the transcript dick....why would people hwo made the game pretend to know nothign about it...god your so simple minded!!

thank you to all the people who are helping not posting because they hav nothing betetr to do...the time it took um to flame they could of tried to help...but naw they wanna wait till we figure it out...then claim it for them selves!!

if they would of said...you have unlocked everything there is to unlock i wouldnt of started this post...but they never said that...they even gave hints and said theres more....so get your facts straight before you dog the smart people who are trying!!

NO MORE FUCKING POSTS FROM DICKS WHO WANNA TALK SHIT INSTED OF TRY.....CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT FUCKING READ!??

they used their intelect against the ignorant! pack you lunch cause imma take you haters to school....

when asked about the ninja star the answer was

the ninja star is usless no perpous...
and without persous we would not exist...

he says it right there with out saying it at alll...the ninja star has no perpous...but if it has no perpous why does it exist!!

it exists ....meaning it has SOME perpous...or they wouldnt of put it int he game FOR NO REASON!! why waste space!?!? and the colors keys they was all like hmm colored keys i dont know what your talking about...i designed the game but i have no idea!!!

dont be stupid just think!!!

now about the krypt WQ every 100 times thing when stryker runs by....does anyone know exactly where the question its self originated from!??

They were fucking with you guys and thought it was funny. I won't be surprised if Mortal Kombat loses a lot of fans after this...

no they are fucking you cause you fucking stupid!!! they ha dno reason to lie...im not gonna try to tell you ignorant fucks not to post anymore so spam the fuck outta our post...waste your time...this is a post about OUR oppinion...NOT YOURS!!! START YOUR OWN FUCKING POST!!!

Alright, you claim you are educated and yet you love spurting out fuck and shit etc whenever it suits you instead of sparingly using it to emphasize points.

Another way to look at things is that I am informing you at what won't work, which would help you if you wish to continue your "search" for secrets.

In any case, let me give you a list of things I have tried which will not work.

Beating the game with everyone
Beating Puzzle fighter with everyone
Beating either mode on max with or without profile
Having all the items in your inventory in Konquest
Having no items in your inventory in Konquest
A-9 in Orderrealm for any length of time does nothing
Unlocking the Krypt does nothing
Doing all the training does nothing
Defeating everyones challenges does nothing
Doing only evil sidequests does nothing
Doing only good sidequests does nothing
Doing no sidequests does nothing
Not picking up the question mark does nothing


We know from the Konquest Hex dump that there are 2 events we havent seen yet. These are fighting Mokap and Drahmin.

There are no hidden items in konquest because we have all the names of the items and all the triggers that happen in konquest.


And from the chat:
Raidens staff is not important
The keys are not important
There are no more than 24 characters in arcade mode
There are no more than 12 puzzle fighters

The only things I can see anyone finding are:
The fights against Mokap and Drahmin
Perhaps a "chibi" mode where the MK fighters look like puzzle fighters

Those will get you started. Good luck.

i never said im edu-macated imma simple southern hick...what post did you read...i said they are you fuckin shit piss cunt pussy cock lol!!!! your jsut ignorant and you have no life....nor anything to do but post and then relatiate to topics you do not agree with...i feel sorry for you...shit shit fuck fuck piss balls ass ass bitch mutherfucker! hows that for educated!?
i got hints and secrets to figure out along with the rest of the SMART PEOPLE trying to figure out what exactlys left...they never said welp guys you got us...you unlocked everything good job...your just to quick for us!!

yall are so fuckin gullable that you believe they dont know anything about the game the made!?!?!?! WTF!

DarkCarnival17, it's not up for debate. They clearly stated there were no extra characters. And since you can't handle other people's opinions, this thread cannot stay open. You chose to flame those who merely disagree with you, so consider this your first warning.

Thread closed.