Mobster_For_SATAN Wrote: Why do you even care illu§ion?

Ummm...

Gee, maybe because, Scorpio is an old friend of mine? Use your head.

Hahaha dude shut up. Yes use my head to figure out your old friends lol man people are stupid.

illu§ion Wrote: Mobster_For_SATAN Wrote: Why do you even care illu§ion? Ummm... Gee, maybe because, Scorpio is an old friend of mine? Use your head.

AberzX Wrote: Shinomune Wrote: Ejem... *cough*... in ALL official posts, in the first reply, always is written "First", is a tradition of MKOnline... Wow that's really lame.

Your posts too...

Mobster_For_SATAN Wrote: Hahaha dude shut up. Yes use my head to figure out your old friends lol man people are stupid.

Also the question you asked, can be learn from common sense. How will you feel if someone stole an art image with out your knowledge?

Greenroom Wrote: Sub-Zero_7th Wrote: Interesting stuff. Thanks. I know why Mileena is sided with the Dragon King, but I'm not going to tell any of you why. hehehe Baraka is working for someone as their bodyguard against certain characters, and I'll leave it at that. I think that perhaps the real Jade is imprisoned, like in that stage, while Tanya is posing as Jade to deceive Sindel, so perhaps Tanya is also sided with the Dragon King. That's Excatly what I was thinking. Tanya is posing as Jade, because you can't deny that Jade appears in the prison stage IMO. I think The Dragon King has an intense interest in Edina and that he wants to get the royalty out of the way. I think Kitana and Jade have been captured and Tanya and Mileena are posers. Baraka I'm still not sure on (possibly working for a not dead Shao Khan? Raiden's bio does use the statement "Sacrific himself" which suggests an opening credit death?!?! Anyway that's just my thought on what we've seen in the Bios. Thanks

About Kitana & Mileena switching, ok. But how are the developers going to keep deceiving us, when we go to the select screen & see Tanya in Green. And, why would Tanya be in green & Mileena in pink (not blue)? While the analogy fits, I'm not sure this is part of the deception & if it is, then I hope they have Tanya selectable as Jade until you uncover the deceipt in the storyline. Since they haven't tipped their cards, this would be a great way to deceive the audience.

Tanya posing as Jade? I dunno, I think that's really really lame. It's just so....I dunno, it's a stupid idea. Kind of predictable.

As for Kitana and Mileena, they don't need to dress in different costumes. They look like eachother 100%, only the masks cover what could differentiate them.

Actually it says this "Raiden sacrificed himself by releasing his godlike essence;" Which could mean he killed himself to make a powerful blow to the DK which didn't do a damn thing. Or that he sacrificed his self like his life of being a elder god so that he could hurt the DK and help Earth or maybe he had to be mortal to help the Earth realm we will no shortly 77 days or 76

Raiden_is_god Wrote: Actually it says this "Raiden sacrificed himself by releasing his godlike essence;" Which could mean he killed himself to make a powerful blow to the DK which didn't do a damn thing. Or that he sacrificed his self like his life of being a elder god so that he could hurt the DK and help Earth or maybe he had to be mortal to help the Earth realm we will no shortly 77 days or 76

I just hope they'll do a kickass intro about it and ANIMATED about his final blast, a godlike fight a la Neo and Smith (revolution) between the DK and Raiden.

1) Mileena's is so cool. o.o

2) Did Raiden kill himself for no reason, or what's the story?

3) Looks like Jade is officially in the game. :) Plus, Sindel's bio lists Tanya as an enemy. Yay.

argh, Raiden's bio left me, ..well pissed. Haven't they done this already? MK3 anyone?! And what does "sacrificed himself" mean? Raiden without with god powers would be lame, it takes away from his character. I hate all the vagueness, if they are going to do it, at least do it right. Btw, the WinMedia video does not work.

o, it works, you just have to have the latest version of Windows Media. Oddly enough though, even an old crappy version will play the commercial. hmm, i smell a foul play here, j/k.
Raiden looks cool enough, but i am still not happy with his bio. they better give him his god powers.

Raiden's History:

Raiden is eternal, and has been around for ages just as the other gods have. He was appointed as the God of Thunder and the protector of the Earth realm.

MKM: SZ
To defend Earthrealm from the traitor Shinnok, Raiden defeated him and threw him in the Netherealm and took the amulet and put it in the newly-built Temple of Elements with four elemental gods guarding it. However, when Sub-Zero was tricked into giving it to Quan-Chi for Shinnok, he forced him to go into the Netherealm and retrieve it. Unfortunately, neither he or Sub-Zero knew what they actually had was just a copy.

MK1
The 10th Mortal Kombat tournament was on, and Raiden lost patience. Would the mortals pretty much GIVE themselves to Outworld in this tournament? Things heated up when Shang Tsung offered Raiden to compete, probably as a mockery to Earthrealm that not even a god could save them. Nevertheless, he joined, determined to do what he felt no one else would. While fighting, he found amazing potential in three warriors: Johnny Cage, Sonya, and especially the one named Liu Kang. He decided to help them and guide them to the championships. When they won, he decided maybe there was hope yet.

MK2
Raiden saw that Shao Kahn was inviting Earth warriors into Outworld to compete in the tournament. He knew this was ALOT more dangerous, and took it upon himself to warn the other warriors. However, he decided a warning wasn't enough. This was Shao KAhn they were dealing with. He NEEDED to be there, feeling they wouldn't be able to take him. He decided to join the Earth warriors in surviving this tournament. When he witnessed Shao Kahn's defeat, he began to have a little more faith in them...

MK3
(NOTE: Contrary to popular belief, Raiden's bio in MKT, along with Baraka's and Cage's, are NOT canon. Raiden was not involved in MK3). Raiden saw that Outworld had taken Earthrealm. BEcause of this, he could no longer do anything, as the Outworld gods now governed Earth. However, he decided he could do one thing - warn the Earth warriors about this threat. He did so, giving visions to each and every one of them. After that, he just watched.....wondering what the outcome would be. When he saw the Earth warriors win and he was restored as God of Thunder and protector of the realm of Earth, he began to finally believe THESE were the warriors Earth needed.

MK4
Raiden's old nemesis Shinnok is back from the Netherealm and is attacking the Heavens, and already has Edenia under his control. Knowing Earth is next, Raiden decides to go into battle with his old nemesis, but what he DOESN'T know is that he's going to get some help....Liu Kang surprisingly rounds up the Earth warriors to back him up. He reluctantly lets them, but it turns out to be alot of help. Eventually, he and Liu Kang face off with Shinnok, and together they defeat him. The Heavens are back together, the Netherealm shrinks back to what it used to be, and everyone's happy. The Elder Gods, impressed with Raiden's heroics as well as how well he has guided the Earth warriors, decide he has earned his place among the Elder Gods. Raiden accepts this promotion, and makes Fujin the new protector of Earthrealm.

MKDA
When the Deadly Alliance makes their moves, Raiden urges the gods to get involved, but they don;t. Disgusted, he relinquishes his status as Elder God, and rounds up the Earth warriors to go into Outworld and conquer them all. He helps them to fight the DA.

As for what happened after that, who knows? We'll find out. But what we do know is....

MKD
Knowing that the Dragon King is here, Raiden decides to sacrifice his power to slow him down or dent him in some way.....but it doesn't work. What now?

(NOTE: Contrary to popular belief, Raiden's bio in MKT, along with Baraka's and Cage's, are NOT canon. Raiden was not involved in MK3).

Where do you get this from? MKT is canon.

MK3 = UMK3 with SOME MKT elements, such as Rain and Noob Saibot and Khameleon being present.

Raiden, Cage, Baraka, Goro, and Kintaro were not involved in MK3, man. THey were just there to solidify MKT as an all-star MK game. If Raiden, Cage, and Baraka's presence in MK3 is canon, then Goro and Kintaro's presence must be too, and we all know it wasn't. Plus, Raiden said he couldn't interfere.

Then how do you explain Cage's Bio in MK4? Hm?



Goro and Kintaro's appearance in MKT was just for completion reasons and is non-canon. Cage, Baraka and Rayden WERE INVOLVED IN MK3, there apperance in MKT is canon. Oh no lets forget Mk4/MKG's story all together and say Cage's, Rayden's and Baraka's appearance is non-canon.

Yes, Raiden said he couldn't interfer...then it was retconned in MKT to have him take mortal form to compete. Just like how UMK3 said Mileena was brought back to life by Kahn but then MKT retconned it to say Shinnok did it. Just like how Ermac's ending was retconned and many other things.


The difference between Cage, Raiden and Baraka and Kintaro and Goro is that the shokans have no stories. They are just there. Cage, Raiden and Baraka got new bios and endings to fit into the story. There is no reason to suggest they are not canon.

That's because Cage's soul was trapped by Shao Kahn. When Shao Kahn was defeated, Cage's soul was free to ascend to the HEavens, since he was already dead. MKDA gives no indication or proof in Cage's Konquest that he was in mK3 either. I mean, just Goro and Kintaro being there makes me think MKT is not canon as a whole. Just certain parts of it (ie. Mileena, Ermac, Khameleon, Rain, and Noob Saibot's new bios and endings).

Yes, which was all mentioned in MKT. According to you that's non-canon yet there it is in MK4....

Kintaro and Goro have no endings. It makes sense that they are non-canon becuase of that.


There's no reason to suspect Cage, Baraka and Raiden are NOT. Cage's MK4 bio matches his MKT bio and nothing contradicts them being canon in later games. Absense of proof doesn't mean it isn't canon. We haven't heard a single word about Kurtis Stryker since MK3 but you surely wouldn't suggest he is non-canon, right?

With Kintaro and Goro they just put them in and didn't give them endings. With Raiden, Baraka and Cage they actually went out of their way to explain why they were back and give them new stories. Why do this if it was non-canon?


You can't just pick and choose which you personally want to be canon.

Just my opinion, but I think that Rayden is dead. When I think of the word "essence," I think of something like life force or someone's very being. So I have a strong feeling that we'll see that epic battle in the intro that people all seem to want.

I don't however, buy the idea that's been kicked around regarding Tanya and Jade. If Mileena has posed as Kitana, I seriously doubt they'd have Tanya posing as Jade. One story featuring that swap I can understand, but I have to believe that the MK team has a little more creativity, than to use the same story concept for two people in the SAME game.

As for the enemies and allies, yeah, Kung Lao, Shang Tsung, Shao Khan, Shinnok etc are all intriguing references, but I have a feeling that that is more historical/factual information. I'm not sure how that holds up when you consider that some of these characters (especially Khan) are supposed to be dead, but who knows. It's never stopped the MK team before. Besides, everyone's supposed to be in the Konquest mode, so who's to say anyone's dead??

It just says that when Shao Kahn was defeated, Cage's soul was free to move to a higher place. Nothing about him fighting. In his MKT bio, it says that his soul rejoined his body. So then he would be alive. If he was alive, then why send him to the heavens?

Also, Baraka's MKG bio says this:
Ever the nomad, Baraka has spent much time wandering many realms.
So, he couldn't be in MK3 if he's been walking about.

and well, to put it plain, "The Words of Raiden" completely contradict Raiden's bio in MKT.

One other thing I just thought of:

Does anyone know when IGN plans to update the bios? I know they always do this character thing when a new WWE game comes out, and while I almost don't want to know what they're going to tell me, I think it's awesome that they're doing this kind of ongoing preview. My guess is that they'll do it on a weekly basis. If the number of characters was 33 (which could include unlockable characters, though I doubt it), they could release 3 bios per week up until the week before October 5th and be right at that 33 mark. Once a week would be SWEET!! Anyone have any ideas?

It just says that when Shao Kahn was defeated, Cage's soul was free to move to a higher place. Nothing about him fighting. In his MKT bio, it says that his soul rejoined his body. So then he would be alive. If he was alive, then why send him to the heavens?


It's talking about his MKT ending. Kahn is beaten so his soul leaves his body and goes to heaven. In other words, he dies, comes back, dies again then comes back again in MK4. That is what MKDA is joking about when it makes fun of him dying over and over.


Also, Baraka's MKG bio says this:
Ever the nomad, Baraka has spent much time wandering many realms.
So, he couldn't be in MK3 if he's been walking about.


Plenty of time passed between the fall of Kahn and the rise of Shinnok for him to roam.


and well, to put it plain, "The Words of Raiden" completely contradict Raiden's bio in MKT.


Not really, if you assume he takes mortal form to partipicate after them.

Besides you have no problem with Ermac's MKT bio contradicting his story in UMK3 among other examples.



Your logic is flawed. You believe only what has been mentioned in other games but as I pointed out, plenty of things like ENTIRE CHARACTERS haven't been mentioned so are they just non-canon too? Why would they introduce these new bios for everyone and make them all canon EXCEPT 3? It just makes no sense.

PsychoFight Wrote: It just says that when Shao Kahn was defeated, Cage's soul was free to move to a higher place. Nothing about him fighting. In his MKT bio, it says that his soul rejoined his body. So then he would be alive. If he was alive, then why send him to the heavens? Also, Baraka's MKG bio says this: Ever the nomad, Baraka has spent much time wandering many realms. So, he couldn't be in MK3 if he's been walking about. and well, to put it plain, "The Words of Raiden" completely contradict Raiden's bio in MKT.

Your bio of Baraka is not accurate enough. Cage's Mk4 bio was making up for his MKT ending. If you have read his MKT ending, while his soul was traveling to the heavens while this happened Shao Khan was merging Outworld with Earthrealm and Cage's soul bounced back into his body giving him a second chance, but he knew if the Earthrealm warriors won Mortal Kombat his soul will leave his body once again and fought with his friends without holding back. Earth won and Cage's soul had to leave his body to ascend to the heavens.

Now, don't try to talk yourself out of this one.

Sweet! Kitana is NOT dead!!!

Sweet!! mileena gets to be princess at last!

Sweet!!! Jade is in!

Bummer... Rayden is dead... HOWEVER Ashrah inherited all his cool moves

The only thing I hope: These stories apear in the game as videos