Mortal Kombat Deception Mileena Ending:
Because it was widely believed that Princess Kitana had slain her many years ago, none were suspicious of the veil Mileena wore to concel hear Tarkatan features. It was not difficult for her to assume the identity of the princess and take control of her alliance. To further conceal her deception, Mileena gave command of the armies to Bo Rai Cho and instructed him to lead the attack against Baraka's diversionary forces....
Baraka's militia had failed to divert the enemy, and to her surprise, was decimated by Bo Rai Cho's forces. She then realized that she was in control of the most powerful military force in Outworld and Edenia combined.... She had finally achieved her true purpose, her destiny. But Mileena could not continue her charade indefinitely - not as long as Baraka knew the truth. She ambushed him in the ancient Beetle Lair and fed him to a swarm of flesh-eating insects. All hail Princess... Kitana.

IDK there gonna go that same direction b/c they did it in MK:D. So Kitana is in fact Kitana.

Xia, I don't doubt your objectivity in many things you analyze (which I enjoy to read), but that doesn't mean you are free of the "subjective-crime" you talked, which you are also known to apply very well.

You are asking me to be "honest and proud" about something I don't agree at all, and sorry, but there are people out there who can be objective about stuff even if they don't like it as much as other stuff, and admit it, and that's not "patronizing" at all, even if you think it is. That's just being sincere. What can be seen as obnoxious is when people say they hate something they don't actually hate (or dislike as much) just because of being biased and bitter among other things. I raise an eye brow to that. I can sincerely say I like Kitana even if I don't like her as much as other characters and I value her role, and I can also sincerely say that I can't wait to play with her, because her combos look awesome and fun, even if there are others who speak their mind about my faves because of bitterness. I don't care about that, as it shouldn't interfere with the way I view the character. And that makes me happy.

However, I do apologize if I offended you in any way because that is not my intention, and you know what, I'll actually look at your words with an open mind and stop this here, because it's not fair to the thread. To you, again, sorry about that.



I agree! I just don't see Mileena pulling that one. She would be able to resist to be all sadistic and slutty.

To be honest, my approach to this game has only ever been purely selfish. Far as this particular game is concerned, I couldn't give a fuck about anyone but what I like...and I'm displeased. And overall, what tiny strand of thread that keeps me at all interested in Mortal Kombat is really stretching long and thin.
So...sincerest apologies if you think less of me...but all I have to offer is venom and bile.



Yay. We got a bone.



There is no such thing is pure objectivity. All one can be is as objective as possible...but if like or dislike are being applied, than I was not being objective.

For example, if you ever catch me saying something about...let's say Liu Kang...that can construed as nice or complimentry; I am not stating what I like about him. Because there is NOTHING I like about Liu Kang.

You remember how I would suggest Jax turning evil would be a good story direction for Sonya if they both came back? I was not suggesting something that would make me like or be interested in either of them. I don't like Jax or Sonya and NOTHING will make me like them.

I was just being objective.
And while granted, opinions can change over time...if I ever, at any time, created the impression that my personal subjective opinion of characters like Liu Kang, Johnny Cage, Sonya Blade, Kano, Jax, and a few others was anything other than grudging tolerance(at least) or flat-out hate(at most)....I apologize.
I'll try to be clearer in the future.



I lol'ed.

Even though I believe your "nothing" is an extremist and drastic view of what I explained (because there is a lot more to these characters then just story considering this is a fighting game after all, there is also their special moves for example [among many other things] and their overall gameplay, which is actually extremely important because they can be awesome and fun even if you don't like their roles...and in the end, what you are playing is a fighting game, so I don't buy the essence of your "nothing" thing in it's entirely), I guess I can only say: OK.



I just wanted to say that I enjoyed reading your posts, btw. Good job!

I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now that I am not pleased with Kitana AT ALL in this game. And now to add to this all, her fatality will suffer tweaking and or censorship from the ESRB. Her overall design sucks. But most Midway ass kissers on this site would have us believe that despite our displeasure with Kitana in this game, we should just suck it up, accept it and be happy that she is in the game. And its exactly this sit back and take it attitude is why we were given the last 3 less than stellar MK titles. They need to come up with something fresh and new for her. All new design from head to toe, steel fans and all. New moves too, and a story that leads her down a darker path.

I really don't give a fuck what anyone else has to say about it. Its my right to be unhappy with Kitana in this game. I may be a fan of hers but I am not a blind follower who eats up whatever sugar coated scraps are tossed my way. In future Mk games, if they can't at least take the extra time to do something worth while with Kitana, I'd much rather not have her in at all.

If this thread was discussing a "What if..." then it wouldn't have the following initial post...

There's a difference between a "What if..." and a "theory" and based on your initial post, where you clearly state is a theory. It seems like you're banking on the possibility that Kitana is actually Mileena in this game. Anyway, in either case...
-As a "What if?" question, if Kitana turned out to be Mileena, that'd be fucked up and hard to believe, and the possibility of that occurring is too far-fetched. Why would Ed Boon take out one of his favourite and one of the most popular characters and replace her secretly with Mileena? This game is catered to more of the fans than anything else, and Kitana stands out a lot more than Mileena.
-As a "theory," your information is as strong as a sieve holding water... Kitana started the series in a mask, she's more widely known to have a mask, and the only reason I would think of for Boon not mentioning Mileena is because he has no reason to because she probably won't have anything more than a cameo in the game.
Also, her having Mileena's roll means absolutely nothing; why wouldn't Kitana be able to roll super-fast on the ground? She can already fly, so I don't really see it as such a big stretch, and considering Mileena's her clone, who's to say that they can't have anything in common when it comes to abilities? Of course, I'm stretching this way out of proportion here, but what I'm trying to say is that her having a similar attack to Mileena is not a big deal and doesn't mean anything.
If we applied your logic to other characters who had similar moves, then your theory basically gets thrown out the window; in MKDA, Kitana had Liu Kang's Flying Kick (renamed "Pretty Kick"), and that didn't mean that Kitana was really Liu Kang in disguise, did it? Darrius also had Cyrax's Spinkicks (renamed "Twisty Kicks") and that didn't make him Cyrax either. I could go on, but I think you get my point that sharing an attack with someone else does not mean that they are the same person.

Oh no, moves and design is included. If they play good and have good Fatalities, I only hate them more. Jun Fan was a good style in Deception and Armageddon....but it just had to be Liu Kang's. So I never used him. Even if I did buy MK vs. DC, I wouldn't touch Sonya regardless of how much everyone is gushing about how great she's going to be.



I concur.

The ending of Mileena in Armageddon actually happens and now Mileena is beautiful.

And she learns how to throw steel fan and make a perfect fan lift.

Believe me, its true.

But, that doesn't make any sense! (EDIT because I just saw your edit:) You only sound biased, therefore, I'm even more inclined to believe that you not liking "nothing" is just purely biased and not entirely true. You do realize you sound blinded, right?

So (FOR EXAMPLE!!!) what you are basically saying is: if Kitana had Sonya's cool special moves, you would like them, but since she doesn't, you just don't care about any of Sonya's specials (or fun gameplay). And since she doesn't have them, I'm guessing you are just going to say you don't like them. And I highly doubt your statement of not even touching the characters you dont like. What's the point of buying a game then, if you aren't giving it a chance in all the things it has to deliver? Is that even mature?

Sorry, but in that, I can't agree with you.

Kitana is actually Zebron.

But seriously this would just feel like a Sub Zero/Noob ripoff.

Well, if you'll re-read my previous post, I pointed out that my liking nothing about Liu Kang, Sonya, and so on was purely my subjective opinion...where I am free to be as bias as I please.
It works both ways. I also think guys like Kintaro and Reiko are great characters...but what the fuck am I basing that on that isn't subjective bias?

Not to say I don't have any legitimate objective reasons for liking/disliking those characters...but there's also plenty of subjective bias reasons, too. The trick is being able to differentiate between them; which more often than not, I am able to. Like in my Storyline Analysis thread, I try to leave subjectivity at the door.



Bullseye.



Not necessarily. Like I said, Jun Fan was a good style...I just never used it because it was Liu Kang.

Luckily, there was always Mokap.
Sadly, I was unable to appreciate Shorin Ryu, Tae Kwan Do, Mantis, and a few other styles because they were put with characters I despise.
And if you're keeping score, I hated Kano and Jax's styles...so there was no loss.

Getting back to Sonya and MK vs. DC...I'm sure she'll be a top-tier powerhouse. Too bad I'll never know, even if I do buy the game.



Well that depends on the rest of the roster. Like in Armageddon, I never touch Liu Kang, Sonya, Kano, etc....but I had another 50-60 characters to choose from. More often than not, the characters I like or at least am willing to try outnumber the characters I hate.

As for MK vs. DC...well, that's tricky.
Kitana, Wonder Woman, and the Joker are my only dealbreakers. And thus far, only one out of three looks good.
I like Sub-Zero, Raiden, Batman, Shao Kahn, & Darkseid and would use them. I would try out Green Lantern, Deathstroke, Flash, Lex Luthor, Shang Tsung, & Baraka to see if I like using them. Maybe I would, maybe I wouldn't.
And I won't touch Liu Kang, Sonya, Kano, Jax, or Catwoman.

It's a conundrum...but as of now, I'm leaning towards: no, I won't be buying the game.


You know it's funny, but I'm thinking back to Armageddon and how I would mention how much I hate Mimik and, aside from people agreeing with me, I would also see: "If you don't like a character, don't use them! No one's forcing you to!"

Some of you people are getting quite stupid in your responses. Look. Look at what I'm about to say, look carefully.

Ready?

NO ONE IS MAKING A "BIG DEAL" OUT OF MILEENA'S ROLL HERE EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCUSING OTHERS OF MAKING A BIG DEAL!

The OP was stating that it is a possibility that Kitana in this game is actually Mileena in disguise, and based on the information he presented, his theory is plausible. She may be. She may not be. We won't know until the game comes out, now will we?

Did they troll on and write a thesis about how Kitana having Mileena's roll is a terrible offense? No. "(She's) also ''Stolen'' Mileena's Roll move." is all they said.

And yes, it is Mileena's move. She was the first one who had it and maintained it throughout the series. If MK9 came out and Tanya started throwing a spear, everyone would be saying that she stole Scorpion's spear. And remember how Kira stole Kano's cannonball? Fact is, a character's special moves are a part of their overall identity.

And Jerrod, this theory holds FAR more weight than what you went on about at the end of your post. Kitana and Liu Kang, Darrius and Cyrax, etc. Those pairs don't even look remotely alike (except for Darrius and Cyrax being black, but Cyrax is obviously cybernetic). You're comparing apples and oranges. The OP's comparison at least has some legitimacy.

And I'm done. Sorry for the long post, but people are getting way too bent out of shape about this for no damn reason.

His theory holds more weight simply because Kitana and Mileena look alike? How in the world does Kitana rolling and resembling Mileena justify a theory that Mileena is actually posing as her once again? It sounds like an attempt to make an apple and an orange sound like 2 apples.
If the guy actually had a bit more to back up his story, for example, mentioning how Kitana seems to be trying to get close to Baraka and Shang Tsung in the story while almost ignoring Liu Kang (which hasn't happened as far as anybody knows), or we didn't have images of the official comic that shows stuff like, I don't know, a picture of Kitana, unmasked, going into Rage mode to explain why she's acting out of character and killing a random guard, then I'd believe it was plausible.

If that doesn't say "it's freaking Kitana in the game and not Mileena" I don't know what does.

Wow, shit. I stand corrected. I can't believe I forgot about her being unmasked in the comic.

In that case, Kitana really is Kitana. Looks like case closed.

I'm kind of glad in a way, because now the question won't be in the back of my mind. I guess this thread can be closed then, since that was the topic of the OP and we have a definite and irrefutable answer.

I'd have closed the thread sooner, but I couldn't remember if there was a picture of her unmasked somewhere in a video, and I was hoping someone would post it. Anyway, since there is a picture of Kitana clearly being Kitana, then it's safe to say that this theory is busted.