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Its not imposible to hide text so it is not readable under a hex editor very easly. All though I find it unlikly they would have used both hiden and unhiden stored text for the same game. It would complicate things. Just a little anyway.
Hiding text would only entale saving the text values off set by a set amount. I think 128 is the amount generaly used. I cant recal off hand but I think text starts like at the value of 26. So if "a" = 26. they would save "a" as 26 + 128. Making "a" in the game = 154 not 26. Under an editor 154 would not appear as "a" but whatever the byte value of 154 is(there are a total of 256 unique characters). Making any text saved that way look like all the other machine code we cant understand. So if they did do things both ways then it would be easy to hide some key text strings from basic hacking. Plus nobody would think to shift values to check for them.
Very little is actualy saved in text that's viewable under an editor. Generaly its just file names and error codes ment for readablitiy. Though it can give a lot of info about the program. From the look of the MKD code I would say I am very doubtful about any SUs bud. There are all the same things in place to load Frost, Kitana, Nitira, Blaze, Jax, Drahmin, Cage, Quan, Shang, and Sonya, but all of them are missing a number of entries that all the playable characters have. Such as fatalies, and specal moves. The characters in that list we havent seen yet will almost surly follow the pattern of the ones we have. To be fought with only, not playable.
Monster is still possible I would think. There are other possiblilites that are not characters. Ways of play and hidden opponets, but after days of combing through the files I don't see any real hope for people.
Hiding text would only entale saving the text values off set by a set amount. I think 128 is the amount generaly used. I cant recal off hand but I think text starts like at the value of 26. So if "a" = 26. they would save "a" as 26 + 128. Making "a" in the game = 154 not 26. Under an editor 154 would not appear as "a" but whatever the byte value of 154 is(there are a total of 256 unique characters). Making any text saved that way look like all the other machine code we cant understand. So if they did do things both ways then it would be easy to hide some key text strings from basic hacking. Plus nobody would think to shift values to check for them.
Very little is actualy saved in text that's viewable under an editor. Generaly its just file names and error codes ment for readablitiy. Though it can give a lot of info about the program. From the look of the MKD code I would say I am very doubtful about any SUs bud. There are all the same things in place to load Frost, Kitana, Nitira, Blaze, Jax, Drahmin, Cage, Quan, Shang, and Sonya, but all of them are missing a number of entries that all the playable characters have. Such as fatalies, and specal moves. The characters in that list we havent seen yet will almost surly follow the pattern of the ones we have. To be fought with only, not playable.
Monster is still possible I would think. There are other possiblilites that are not characters. Ways of play and hidden opponets, but after days of combing through the files I don't see any real hope for people.
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Yeah! I agree with you, maybe if you are nice to everyone and don't steal or do bad things and help people only the monks might make YOU a monk then you can go inside then later punch the old lady! lol jk but I do agree with your theory...

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Why must we go on this aimless mission?Like Midway is gonna tell the mods here NO,but you have a hidden source (mm hmm),that says yes?C'mon man.Give it up.You have no proof and no grounds for having us believe what the mk team and the mods here have already said and confirmed.Good luck on your treasure hunt.Halo 2 anyone?
not sure what this means, but i was looking at the code for the MKD website (http://www.mortalkombat.midway.com/deception.php) and its keywords were: "Keywords" CONTENT="Midway,Mortal,Kombat,Mortal Kombat,Deception,Ed Boon,Baraka,Dragon King,Revealed 09193, Mileena,Raiden,more,Scorpion,to,Sub-Zero,come,MKD,online,GameSpy,fighting,tournaments,puzzle,fatalities,character,hara kiri,backgrounds,breakable,Konquest,Chess Kombat,Puzzle Kombat,supernatural,storyline,mythology,mystique"
what do you suppose the "revealed 09193" means?
chec it out
what do you suppose the "revealed 09193" means?
chec it out


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[Shaokahn] so you're 100% sure that the Mods aren't lying? Or that they asked the MK team, but were lied to. I mean why would they give any one any info before MKD's released everywhere else??? It's unfair if they told the Mods, right? The Mods+Admins are all human, they'll believe everything we believe, they're also players.
this might help; i am unsure if this has been posted before, but when i first started the Konquest mode and turned around i saw ermac run by really fast in the park (like one would to in the Krypt). i haven't read any one mention that, could that be something. I tried to follow him, but i never saw him again.
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now that I read all those hex dumps I don't think there's anything left to find. no references to 2nd alternates, no references to any hidden stages, no references to puzzle characters, no hidden areas in konquest.
The only thing that bugs me is the 3 or 4 locked houses in the villiage and the temple that you can't get into. I wonder what is in them... koins most likely, but I don't need any more damn koins I've got 30K of each except onyx I have 10K of those with nothing left to spend it on.
The only thing that bugs me is the 3 or 4 locked houses in the villiage and the temple that you can't get into. I wonder what is in them... koins most likely, but I don't need any more damn koins I've got 30K of each except onyx I have 10K of those with nothing left to spend it on.
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I saw him too but never saw him after he just disapeared 
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I think the ermac thing is he snags some coins before you can if you don't haul ass. I've seen it mentioned before.
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Yea i have also seen Ermac he does snag a coin which was odd to me. But i thought nothing off it. I also walked into a hut and seen scorpion. ANd without me pressing the action button he said to me "oh know you found me" and puffs into smoke and he is gone . Which also was weird. Im sure they have nothing to do with any of the SU's. But just wanted to tag along
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On the MK:D site there are 2 "hidden" codes that are on the site.
Hidden pack #1: 01492
Hidden pack #2: 09193
they let you download special content.
Hidden pack #1: 01492
Hidden pack #2: 09193
they let you download special content.

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Nobody has considered the possibility that the SU doesn't unlock in Konquest Mode? 


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i did, i think you have to do something like hold down 1 and 2 for 10 seconds on the options menu under rouds to win.
Or enter edboon for your profile name.
Or enter edboon for your profile name.
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Yeah, I'm sure it has been mentioned before in some thread, but I wanted to let you know of a couple strange items I have ran into. First, in the NetherRealm in a hut at A-6 there is someone on the ground that looks like Goro. Anyone else noticed it??? Second, in OrderRealm when you walk of into the air you can transverse the entire map while in the -1 area. As I said nothing new just a couple observations. Keep up the hunting!!!

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The guys at Midway would be expecting the game to be hacked. They even say this at Fight Night, so why wouldn't they make every effort of hiding an SU, big or small. Like you said, there are ways of doing this, and if anyone had any big reason to do this, it sure as hell would be them.
Now as far as the SU's go, I have no idea what the heck it is, but I sure as hell don't doubt there is something there. Okay, so let's just look at the past games of MK. There has always been some sort of UL/SU. That is because they know that is a major part of the game, this is what helps sales. I really doubt they would just throw in a couple/few UL and leave it at that. They need to keep the gamers interested, especially to help the sales of future games.
Now with regards to other comments:
I don't think the characters (ermac, etc.) running around in the game are anything big. I would imagine that if there are any real hint leading to unlock an UL/SU, it would have to be something more inconspicuous.
After looking over the trigger names and related info. I did see a few things in there as well, that I found to be very suspicious on of them being: (Check for yourself) it went something like this... trigger_village_reenter
Is there anyway of knowing whether or not the game play is not similar to that of Onimush 2 (If you have played it, then you know what I mean. The similarities are there)?
now as far as the rude comments:
One thing that comes to mind is: "stupid people say stupid things, what can you expect to gain when there is no room to grow." - Move along!
The guys at Midway would be expecting the game to be hacked. They even say this at Fight Night, so why wouldn't they make every effort of hiding an SU, big or small. Like you said, there are ways of doing this, and if anyone had any big reason to do this, it sure as hell would be them.
Now as far as the SU's go, I have no idea what the heck it is, but I sure as hell don't doubt there is something there. Okay, so let's just look at the past games of MK. There has always been some sort of UL/SU. That is because they know that is a major part of the game, this is what helps sales. I really doubt they would just throw in a couple/few UL and leave it at that. They need to keep the gamers interested, especially to help the sales of future games.
Now with regards to other comments:
I don't think the characters (ermac, etc.) running around in the game are anything big. I would imagine that if there are any real hint leading to unlock an UL/SU, it would have to be something more inconspicuous.
After looking over the trigger names and related info. I did see a few things in there as well, that I found to be very suspicious on of them being: (Check for yourself) it went something like this... trigger_village_reenter
Is there anyway of knowing whether or not the game play is not similar to that of Onimush 2 (If you have played it, then you know what I mean. The similarities are there)?
now as far as the rude comments:
One thing that comes to mind is: "stupid people say stupid things, what can you expect to gain when there is no room to grow." - Move along!
REPLY to: Nobody has considered the possibility that the SU doesn't unlock in Konquest Mode?
I never once thought of that! You might be right. That is why I need everyones help to check all the possibilities together. If everyone one of us takes on a particular task, the faster we can get to the bottom of things. As of right now I am in the Village again. Though, I plan to restart it a fifth time, this time following some of the things I posted earlier, regarding not doing things that would be considered "bad". I did try putting in a profile name that I founds suspicious. For example: Stryker, Fujin, wq 456. But no go on any of that; although this also could be a way to get to an UL. Anyway, I am going to try doing a couple of things. If anyone else is working on something I would appreciate it if you would let me know what, and keep me updated on your progress, and I will do the same.
I never once thought of that! You might be right. That is why I need everyones help to check all the possibilities together. If everyone one of us takes on a particular task, the faster we can get to the bottom of things. As of right now I am in the Village again. Though, I plan to restart it a fifth time, this time following some of the things I posted earlier, regarding not doing things that would be considered "bad". I did try putting in a profile name that I founds suspicious. For example: Stryker, Fujin, wq 456. But no go on any of that; although this also could be a way to get to an UL. Anyway, I am going to try doing a couple of things. If anyone else is working on something I would appreciate it if you would let me know what, and keep me updated on your progress, and I will do the same.

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Ok guys.
The hidden sonya deal is a special sonya that is in Outworld who gives you coins.
Trigger_reenter_village is used when you are inside a building training with Bo Rai Cho.
I'm not sure what you mean about missing text. Do you have more examples? Everything I remember in Konquest is in there.
The nexus chest is suspicious, but its just like the Mocap, Kitana, Drahmin fights. They may or may not be in the game but their coding is there. If there is a chest in the nexus, it will give you coins because there are no other items that trigger we don't know about.
The hidden sonya deal is a special sonya that is in Outworld who gives you coins.
Trigger_reenter_village is used when you are inside a building training with Bo Rai Cho.
I'm not sure what you mean about missing text. Do you have more examples? Everything I remember in Konquest is in there.
The nexus chest is suspicious, but its just like the Mocap, Kitana, Drahmin fights. They may or may not be in the game but their coding is there. If there is a chest in the nexus, it will give you coins because there are no other items that trigger we don't know about.
peeps are saying that you cant get into the building by sindel......but i have...theres a chest and some coins....the chest contains like 500 coins....i think they are ruby...i got in when kitana was walking through and the doors open.....just a thaught.....but nice thread...ur onto something
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Mabye when you are on year 12.31.99 it goes back to 1.1.00 and the village opens back up again. and since ur a monk now u can enter the building thing and mabye there is a SU in side of there.
just a thought.
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just a thought.
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Hey XproX I will deffinetley help you. I like everything you have said and you seem to know what you are doing. When the guy said there is always a consequence to your sctions that got me thinking, becaus I always hit the people and stuff. Well Im going to make a second profile and this time as you said I will not take money from inseide the houses or hit people I will be good and see if that makes a difference from the one im usung now. Maybe you can turn into a monk or sumthin. well I will be talking to you later.
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For those who are interested, I just wanted to give you an update on my progress. I have just finished completing the side missions and training in the village. It took me a while because I had to take care of other personal things, so I did not get to play MKD as much as I would have liked to. I am basically following a gamefaq and sticking to my theory of not doing things that would be considered wrong (ethically) in the game. I will continue to do this through out the game with hopes that this does do something in the end. One thing that I was thinking about, that might be something to try out, was training for a long time; for some reason that just stayed in my head. A lot of the people in the village mentioned something with regards to that. Maybe training for a long time might also be some sort of trigger? Again, I don't know if this will work but might very well be possible, if you consider some of the comments made by the towns people who say: "it takes years of training to become a monk." Well anyways, that's just another thought so if one of you want to try out that theory, that would be great! This will give us another thing to cross off the list. So if there are any more ideas with regards to what I was told to look for, please post them.
For those of you who need a refresher on those hints/clues, here they are:
1. TALKING TO ALL THE CHARACTERS IN THE GAME, MORE THAN JUST ONCE
2. THE YEAR
3. TRAINING
4. FOCUS ON THE EARTHREALM VILLAGE
5. INSPECT EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY METICULOUSLY.
So far I have these theories to work on listed:
1. Trying not to do something unethical (Someone else, along with myself are working on that now)
2. Someone mentioned: Maybe we should all wait 8 days?
The release date for the pal copies are coming up. (Can you please post any new info on this when you hear anything?)
3. Maybe when you are on year 12.31.99 it goes back to 1.1.00 and the village opens back up again. (Anyone wanna try and work on this, unless someone has already tried this?)
4. Training for an extensive period of time (this is one I dont think has tried out. - Might lead to the monk theory.)
Okay, so this is what we have so far. Lets try and get more things on this list to check off.
Two other things I want to mention, First, I was talking to a friend of a friend who is studying programming (game). I explained the whole situation, and whether or not it would be possible to link some code in the games programming to apply a trigger. In other words, have one line of coded text apply to something else so that it would not be so obvious for those who crack the files on the game. He said it was possible to do. He also mentioned something someone else said in an earlier post, that it is also possible to create a hidden file and link it to another, as well as ways of hiding some of the text. He also mentioned that there are new methods of code inscription that can be done so that things may not be as they seem in the lines of code. Now I dont know much about programming, but it sure as heck sounds like this guy knows what hes talking about. I truly believe this might also be a reason why no one has found anything out of the ordinary yet. Secondly, I read in another post that someone found an UL that has to do with the Nexus. I dont know what to think about it but has anyone else heard this to be true??
You can check out the post here at this link:
http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id=32701
For those of you who need a refresher on those hints/clues, here they are:
1. TALKING TO ALL THE CHARACTERS IN THE GAME, MORE THAN JUST ONCE
2. THE YEAR
3. TRAINING
4. FOCUS ON THE EARTHREALM VILLAGE
5. INSPECT EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY METICULOUSLY.
So far I have these theories to work on listed:
1. Trying not to do something unethical (Someone else, along with myself are working on that now)
2. Someone mentioned: Maybe we should all wait 8 days?
The release date for the pal copies are coming up. (Can you please post any new info on this when you hear anything?)
3. Maybe when you are on year 12.31.99 it goes back to 1.1.00 and the village opens back up again. (Anyone wanna try and work on this, unless someone has already tried this?)
4. Training for an extensive period of time (this is one I dont think has tried out. - Might lead to the monk theory.)
Okay, so this is what we have so far. Lets try and get more things on this list to check off.
Two other things I want to mention, First, I was talking to a friend of a friend who is studying programming (game). I explained the whole situation, and whether or not it would be possible to link some code in the games programming to apply a trigger. In other words, have one line of coded text apply to something else so that it would not be so obvious for those who crack the files on the game. He said it was possible to do. He also mentioned something someone else said in an earlier post, that it is also possible to create a hidden file and link it to another, as well as ways of hiding some of the text. He also mentioned that there are new methods of code inscription that can be done so that things may not be as they seem in the lines of code. Now I dont know much about programming, but it sure as heck sounds like this guy knows what hes talking about. I truly believe this might also be a reason why no one has found anything out of the ordinary yet. Secondly, I read in another post that someone found an UL that has to do with the Nexus. I dont know what to think about it but has anyone else heard this to be true??
You can check out the post here at this link:
http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id=32701
Oops, almost forgot! If any of you out there know lots about programming, and have cracked the game files, maybe you can check into what I have listed above, with regards to the hidden text, incription, etc.
I would like to know what you find, if anyting. Thnx!
I would like to know what you find, if anyting. Thnx!
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