KAHN and HAVIK
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posted09/29/2004 06:41 PM (UTC)by
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cpleck
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12/14/2003 08:22 PM (UTC)
In a closed thread, KenshiMaster16 said something about Kahn if fact being Havik. I would like to comment on that for a second. Where does the name NOOB SAIBOT come from? Boon and Tobias backwards, right. Let's look at HAVIK's name for a sec. There's a K. There's an H. There's an A. No N huh? I beg to differ. Let's take the I and the V. Put them next to eachother and what do you get? an N! IV = N. Do you see what I mean? It's just a theory. I'm probably way out there on this one. What do you guys think?
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You-Know-Who
09/29/2004 08:26 AM (UTC)
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It's an idea. But it's very unlikely.
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M3551aH
09/29/2004 08:29 AM (UTC)
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well, it's quite unlikely actually. Havik is smaller in size compared to Kahn. And, i thought Kahn had a human face ? Havik's face is kind of .... rotten. U know ?
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terrance24
09/29/2004 08:29 AM (UTC)
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I really think you might have some thing there... you might be right... good work dude...smile
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09/29/2004 08:31 AM (UTC)
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You have quite an imagination.
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MDMiller
09/29/2004 08:33 AM (UTC)
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it is a possibility i guess....I can't wait to find out!
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cpleck
09/29/2004 08:35 AM (UTC)
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I do have quite an imagination. Not to mention that it's 4:33 in the morning and the coffee is flowing! I did notice that Kahn is much larger than Havik, but remember, alot of people thought that Reiko was Kahn for a time. Reiko was actually a body double for Kahn. Reiko wasn't that large either.
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cpleck
09/29/2004 08:37 AM (UTC)
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As for the Rotten face, I can't account for that totally. Remember, Kahn did get his ass whipped by Quan Chi and Shang Tsung. God knows how bad they kicked his ass.
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M3551aH
09/29/2004 08:49 AM (UTC)
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highly unlikely i say. Havik is from another realm and he is Hotaru's enemy. It's unlikely that Shao Kahn is Havik. I'd say very unlikely.
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MDMiller
09/29/2004 08:57 AM (UTC)
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What was the deal with the whole Reiko thing? who exactly was he? What was his story?
and on topic I can see the Kahn being Havik thing. But I do think that it is kind of a far stretch
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Super2Vejita
09/29/2004 09:02 AM (UTC)
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ok, seriously...some imaginations, haha...Havik comes from the realm of Chaos or whatever, basically his name is a play on HAVOC...since it can't be too blatant they made him Havic...but it's mortal kombat so the c becomes a k. And for you own edification...Mavado's original name was to be MALVADO...but Ed Boon figured the spanish players would think the name stupid, because MALVADO means "bad guy" in spanish (Ed Boon is hispanic). Furthermore, Bo'Rai Cho...the drunken master...well BORRACHO means "drunkard" in spanish, and that is what boraicho is in the game, a drunk. But it can't be to obvious so his name was changed. Havik is not Kahn.
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cpleck
09/29/2004 09:03 AM (UTC)
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I agree that it is a very far stretch MD, but I saw the info in one of KenshiMaster16's threads and I figured that I'd comment on it. His thread was closed so I made a new one. He has a pretty good track record with his info. I'm not saying that he's right, but who knows.
MDMiller Wrote:
What was the deal with the whole Reiko thing? who exactly was he? What was his story?
and on topic I can see the Kahn being Havik thing. But I do think that it is kind of a far stretch

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terrance24
09/29/2004 09:04 AM (UTC)
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M3551aH,,,,You are right... I forgot about hotaru being his enemy... because why... if he was then shangTsung QuanChi or the DragonKing would be he's enemy and not hotaru... So you are right M3551aH,,,
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cpleck
09/29/2004 09:05 AM (UTC)
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You're right super2vejita, there has been alot of name-play in the MK universe. But who knows, I guess I just want Kahn in really badly.
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ok, seriously...some imaginations, haha...Havik comes from the realm of Chaos or whatever, basically his name is a play on HAVOC...since it can't be too blatant they made him Havic...but it's mortal kombat so the c becomes a k. And for you own edification...Mavado's original name was to be MALVADO...but Ed Boon figured the spanish players would think the name stupid, because MALVADO means "bad guy" in spanish (Ed Boon is hispanic). Furthermore, Bo'Rai Cho...the drunken master...well BORRACHO means "drunkard" in spanish, and that is what boraicho is in the game, a drunk. But it can't be to obvious so his name was changed. Havik is not Kahn.

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cpleck
09/29/2004 09:10 AM (UTC)
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Isn't Hotaru an enemy of Darrius? And Havik is an ally of Darrius. Hasn't Hotaru sided with Onaga because he believes he'll bring order to the realms. Wouldn't that make Hotaru an enemy of Havik also? So I believe that Kahn would hate Hotaru as well. Not as much as the 3 previously mentioned, but he would be an enemy.
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09/29/2004 09:14 AM (UTC)
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I don't think this name has anything to do with it but Havik still could be Khan. The makers aren't restricted with size issues in the MK universe so I don't think that matters.
OT (1) - I used to seriously think Li Mei might be Mileena back in the MKDA days. Every letter in Li Mei's name is in Mileena. Also both wore the same colour and both used sais.
OT (2) - I used to think the so called final secret of MKDA centred around Drahmin somehow. Drahmin spelled backwards was nim (not in mask) hard (as in hard difficulty). Also he was the most expensive unlock in the Krypt. The biggest coincidence of all was that if you multiply 12 x 43 (remember the 12:43 clue?) well that was how many koffins from the bottom that Drahmin was in.
Sorry for rambling but just wanted to point out that I have looked for solutions in the names before myself.
Cheers.
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DK1983
09/29/2004 09:14 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, and Hotaru was initially in Outworld to defeat Shao Kahn, so if Havik is Kahn, it would make sense if Hotaru is Havik enemy too...
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09/29/2004 09:17 AM (UTC)
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What is it with MK fans and insisting that new characters must secretly be old characters? We've seen this constantly since MK4 yet it's never happened. The way people act you'd think it was something the MK team does frequently.
I think it really shows how shoddy the new character design has been since John Tobias left.
Look at MKD. There's Jax = Darrius, Kobra = Cage, Kira = Sonya, and now Havik = Kahn. 4 out of the 8 new characters in MKD have wild theories about them being old characters. Half the roster!
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cpleck
09/29/2004 09:17 AM (UTC)
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Damn good insights, mate. I knew I liked Australia for a reason, besides the women. lol.
sumixam Wrote:
I don't think this name has anything to do with it but Havik still could be Khan. The makers aren't restricted with size issues in the MK universe so I don't think that matters.
OT (1) - I used to seriously think Li Mei might be Mileena back in the MKDA days. Every letter in Li Mei's name is in Mileena. Also both wore the same colour and both used sais.
OT (2) - I used to think the so called final secret of MKDA centred around Drahmin somehow. Drahmin spelled backwards was nim (not in mask) hard (as in hard difficulty). Also he was the most expensive unlock in the Krypt. The biggest coincidence of all was that if you multiply 12 x 43 (remember the 12:43 clue?) well that was how many koffins from the bottom that Drahmin was in.
Sorry for rambling but just wanted to point out that I have looked for solutions in the names before myself.
Cheers.

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M3551aH
09/29/2004 09:18 AM (UTC)
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the problem is, if Kahn came back from the "dead", he would have wanted to hunt down those that killed him and that would be Shang Tsung and Quan Chi. Of course, i don't think he would have known that both of them wouda died and because of that, he still may continue to hunt them down. Kahn making enemies with Hotaru is unlikey at all, and him being an ally of Darrius is even more unlikely. Kahn himself is a ruler, and now he wants to fight his own rule ? i think Darrius wanted to fight Kahn's oppressive ruling but of course, Kahn was dead.
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cpleck
09/29/2004 09:22 AM (UTC)
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Bed time! I've been given some doubt by all the info that you guys have been supplying. I thank you for the info. I'll sleep on it and see if I was just bein a dumbass or if I can think up anything else to support my theory. Have a damn good night.
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09/29/2004 09:23 AM (UTC)
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cpleck Wrote:
Damn good insights, mate. I knew I liked Australia for a reason, besides the women. lol.

Ha ha cheers mate.
Well the Drahmin thing I reasoned had something to do with his stance that his mask was off and in hard difficulty obviously.
I gave up in the end. That whole Final secret thing was probably blown out of proportion anyway.
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terrance24
09/29/2004 09:23 AM (UTC)
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You asses,,, just shut up and wait for the dam game and see !!!!!!!grin
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Luke_Devil
09/29/2004 09:58 AM (UTC)
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i reckon kahn is havik in his rotting corpse state
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09/29/2004 10:14 AM (UTC)
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And I imagine that thread was closed for a reason...the reason should have been this is one of the most far fetched ideas I've heard yet. We have nothing to back it up (don't even bother to say nothing to disprove it because then you're opening a new door for more pointless "theories"). How many think it is possible that a new character is created who is not just a disguise as someone else. Let's look at all the characters right now that were also other people in the MK saga:
None
So how bout we stop trying to make up crap. Not ever character is going to be in the game. Boo hoo.
and as far as Reiko being Kahn's body double, I would love to know where that was taken from because the only mention we ever have of Reiko is in MK4 and the Kahn=Reiko theory (which is 100% false by the way)
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