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06/18/2004 10:26 AM (UTC)
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wow u truely are a fucking moron (to the man who posted this thread..) If you cannot tell the diff between DA And gold..stop playing MK right now and goto 2d street fighter..u stupid fuck
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06/18/2004 11:31 AM (UTC)
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Christopher777 Wrote:

Point 1.
Midway has never done the Ghost or Zombie thing. Its dumb. If they wanted to bring back Lui Kang (which they don't except for Konquest) then why the hell would they bother with the zombie thing? They would just bring him back, fully intact like Scorpion, Mileena, Johnny Cage and a whole host of others.
Point 2.
Ghosts are not know for their ability to hurt people in Martial Arts. In Fact, Ghosts are known to have a very difficult time even affecting matter, like alone performing advanced and complex fights. THINK peopl dont just believe a rumor because you like a character, tis happens every game, and every game people start these stupid rumors and idiots carry them off like trophies to spread the good word.
Point 3.
There would NEVER be 2 lui Kangs on the select screen. Just like there wouldnt be 2 Raidens, or Reptiles or Kitanas. This being said, since the only way the zombie/gost form thin would work would be if it was an alternate costume. However that would not work because... see point 4
Point 4.
Zombies and Ghosts are extremely different. Zombies are slow, brain eating, idiots with no thoughts or purposes of their own. They are physical forms which can (very slowly) affect matter. Ghosts are NON-PHYSICAL. Now please tell me how one would reconcile these differences when its comes to story, fatalties, endings and fighting styles ? The anwser is, you wouldnt. It would be very difficult to explain would a ghost killed you, and even more difficult to explain how a ghost and zombie are one being, and seem to have both a quick non-physical and slow physical ability to do shaolin fist.
Point 5.
Zombies Often don't like doing anything but eating brains. By Definittion they have lost all will. They are also traditionally slaves. It would seem unlikely that a zombie (even Zombie lui Kang) would give a flying F*** about the dragon king.
Point 6.
The fans would be outraged. Zince boon is listening to fans, trying to make a serious, legit, dark game, I doubt very much that they would go back to their umk3 roots and pull a stupid stunt like this. Howver I do believe a 14 year old might believe it, or even start the rumor.
Point 7.
A poster here even admitted to simply taking the MK4 lui Kang and photoshopping it to look like a zombie. EVen with this fact out there people are still crying "The Messiah, THe Messahiah! This is his Gourd!!!!"
btw, I just got confimation Ronald Mcdonald will be appearing in the game. He aparantly has 8 spaces on the select screen.
Point 8.
Just becuase a character is in the game (ala Konquest) people make the mistake of thinking he will be in the KOMBAT mode as a character with a story, and ending and Fatalities. COme on people. The interview with Steve said rain would be in Konquest and there are already fools on this message board saying "Rain is officially confirmed" and adding them to their List of characters. Do you not think its possible thats what could have happened with Lui Kang ?
Point 9.
A good Plot point in Konquest would be visiting the shrine of Lui Kang in order to learn something from the deceased hero. A Bad plot point is bringing a dead hero back to fight as a Zombie. I know its a hard concept people, but try, would might see how professional video game makers might choose the former.
Point 10.
What Fatalities could a ghost really do ? What a waste of time.
Point 11.
If the above 10 logical points have not convinced you, then even Midway itself will not convince you. Continue to rock back and forth while thinking of lui kang.

POINT 1 - Granted

POINT 2 - Granted

POINT 3 - Granted

POINT 4 - As far as Zombies are concerned I think the best idea would be to regard any character that comes back from the dead as an Oni. In that case, see Drahmin. Ghosts, well, the closest we've ever had to a ghost was Khameleon/Chameleon & Human Smoke and they were in MKT.

POINT 5 - See response to point 4.

POINT 6 - I doubt the fans would be outraged, in fact, they would probably welcome it. I for one, wouldn't welcome it.

POINT 7 - Granted. Midway sent me an e-mail confiriming Ronald as well.

POINT 8 - We still don't have the full cast of characters yet, I think it is foolishness to rule out anybody.

POINT 9 - Granted

POINT 10 - Didn't Human Smoke have a possession fatality in MKT?

POINT 11 - Granted.

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06/18/2004 01:01 PM (UTC)
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That was definitly mk: Gold judging by liu kang having a shirt and the way mileena looked
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06/18/2004 01:06 PM (UTC)
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It was MK Gold. They just messed up and put Deadly Alliance on there. I was confused when I saw it.

It's most definately not MK:D.
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06/18/2004 01:11 PM (UTC)
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dudes why does every1 hate liu kang??

his the best fighter in mk apart from kung lao/sub-zero/scorpian & few others
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06/18/2004 02:38 PM (UTC)
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indeed, I can admit when I'm wrong
I'm no MK fanatic, so I guess I jumped to an ill-advised conclusion, reason being that I've never played MK: Gold nor have seen any screenshots of the sort (which I should've confirmed)

so again, my apologies

-nth- Wrote:
indeed, I can admit when I'm wrong
I'm no MK fanatic, so I guess I jumped to an ill-advised conclusion, reason being that I've never played MK: Gold nor have seen any screenshots of the sort (which I should've confirmed)

so again, my apologies


No problem, bro
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06/18/2004 02:50 PM (UTC)
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I saw that footage it was like 2 secs they were voting which was tyhe most controversal game ever MK VS GTA series and it was a arena from DEADLY ALLIANCE and it look like mei ling but it was fucked up with the sai attack and the other person wasn't Lui Kang I forget who it was now.
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06/18/2004 02:50 PM (UTC)
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Christopher777 Wrote:
Oh my,

I am shocked by two things.

Firstly, that was MK Gold. The "Hell Skull Trone room" was from MK Gold, and was a remake of a Umk3 stage. That was Mileena, doing her gay fatality at Lui Kang.

Secondly, So many people here are like litte children. Someone says something about a character being confirmed, and BAM, you believe it.

BTW, I know ed Boon, and Stryker is confimred. I SWEAR! It was in an interview! NO.. I Don't have a link.. but TRUST ME! ITS TRUE!!!

Lui Kang Will most likely not be a playable Character for Kombat. He will be in KONQUEST in some form or another. I am guessing the spirit of Kang will teach you something in conquest, but to say that he will be a zombie on the main grid is just insane. Its completely retarded to think that there will be two lui Kangs on the select screen.

Again show me an oficial interview with Boon where it says Kang will be a playable character with story, ending and two fatalities. Of course he's in the game, but in KONQUEST MODE.

Lets go through the excersise

What would be more logical.

Remember, to play the game, you have to only make anwsers that are LOGICAL.

Whats more logical..

To Kill off a character, finally, and advance the story in amazing way, proving to your fans youve still got it.

or..

Returning to the roots of Mortal Kombat 3 and 4, to completely ignore the fans and reverse the plot by making Ghosts and Zombies of old characters?

Point 1.
Midway has never done the Ghost or Zombie thing. Its dumb. If they wanted to bring back Lui Kang (which they don't except for Konquest) then why the hell would they bother with the zombie thing? They would just bring him back, fully intact like Scorpion, Mileena, Johnny Cage and a whole host of others.

Point 2.
Ghosts are not know for their ability to hurt people in Martial Arts. In Fact, Ghosts are known to have a very difficult time even affecting matter, like alone performing advanced and complex fights. THINK peopl dont just believe a rumor because you like a character, tis happens every game, and every game people start these stupid rumors and idiots carry them off like trophies to spread the good word.

Point 3.
There would NEVER be 2 lui Kangs on the select screen. Just like there wouldnt be 2 Raidens, or Reptiles or Kitanas. This being said, since the only way the zombie/gost form thin would work would be if it was an alternate costume. However that would not work because... see point 4

Point 4.
Zombies and Ghosts are extremely different. Zombies are slow, brain eating, idiots with no thoughts or purposes of their own. They are physical forms which can (very slowly) affect matter. Ghosts are NON-PHYSICAL. Now please tell me how one would reconcile these differences when its comes to story, fatalties, endings and fighting styles ? The anwser is, you wouldnt. It would be very difficult to explain would a ghost killed you, and even more difficult to explain how a ghost and zombie are one being, and seem to have both a quick non-physical and slow physical ability to do shaolin fist.

Point 5.
Zombies Often don't like doing anything but eating brains. By Definittion they have lost all will. They are also traditionally slaves. It would seem unlikely that a zombie (even Zombie lui Kang) would give a flying F*** about the dragon king.

Point 6.
The fans would be outraged. Zince boon is listening to fans, trying to make a serious, legit, dark game, I doubt very much that they would go back to their umk3 roots and pull a stupid stunt like this. Howver I do believe a 14 year old might believe it, or even start the rumor.

Point 7.
A poster here even admitted to simply taking the MK4 lui Kang and photoshopping it to look like a zombie. EVen with this fact out there people are still crying "The Messiah, THe Messahiah! This is his Gourd!!!!"

btw, I just got confimation Ronald Mcdonald will be appearing in the game. He aparantly has 8 spaces on the select screen.

Point 8.
Just becuase a character is in the game (ala Konquest) people make the mistake of thinking he will be in the KOMBAT mode as a character with a story, and ending and Fatalities. COme on people. The interview with Steve said rain would be in Konquest and there are already fools on this message board saying "Rain is officially confirmed" and adding them to their List of characters. Do you not think its possible thats what could have happened with Lui Kang ?

Point 9.
A good Plot point in Konquest would be visiting the shrine of Lui Kang in order to learn something from the deceased hero. A Bad plot point is bringing a dead hero back to fight as a Zombie. I know its a hard concept people, but try, would might see how professional video game makers might choose the former.

Point 10.
What Fatalities could a ghost really do ? What a waste of time.

Point 11.
If the above 10 logical points have not convinced you, then even Midway itself will not convince you. Continue to rock back and forth while thinking of lui kang.

Im done.



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06/18/2004 02:53 PM (UTC)
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I saw that footage it was like 2 secs they were voting which was tyhe most controversal game ever MK VS GTA series and it was a arena from DEADLY ALLIANCE and it look liked mei ling more then mileena but it was 2 secs long. But it was fucked up with the sai attack and the other person wasn't Lui Kang I forget who it was now. Because the person was well alive also if we haven't seen Lui Kang yet I doubt your gonna see a in game of him yet. There gonna wait until the games about out like August to show us smoke Kabal sektor Lui Kang etc..
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06/18/2004 06:37 PM (UTC)
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Bajar Wrote:
Christopher777 Wrote:
Point 1. Midway has never done the Ghost or Zombie thing. Its dumb. If they wanted to bring back Lui Kang (which they don't except for Konquest) then why the hell would they bother with the zombie thing? They would just bring him back, fully intact like Scorpion, Mileena, Johnny Cage and a whole host of others. Point 2. Ghosts are not know for their ability to hurt people in Martial Arts. In Fact, Ghosts are known to have a very difficult time even affecting matter, like alone performing advanced and complex fights. THINK peopl dont just believe a rumor because you like a character, tis happens every game, and every game people start these stupid rumors and idiots carry them off like trophies to spread the good word. Point 3. There would NEVER be 2 lui Kangs on the select screen. Just like there wouldnt be 2 Raidens, or Reptiles or Kitanas. This being said, since the only way the zombie/gost form thin would work would be if it was an alternate costume. However that would not work because... see point 4 Point 4. Zombies and Ghosts are extremely different. Zombies are slow, brain eating, idiots with no thoughts or purposes of their own. They are physical forms which can (very slowly) affect matter. Ghosts are NON-PHYSICAL. Now please tell me how one would reconcile these differences when its comes to story, fatalties, endings and fighting styles ? The anwser is, you wouldnt. It would be very difficult to explain would a ghost killed you, and even more difficult to explain how a ghost and zombie are one being, and seem to have both a quick non-physical and slow physical ability to do shaolin fist. Point 5. Zombies Often don't like doing anything but eating brains. By Definittion they have lost all will. They are also traditionally slaves. It would seem unlikely that a zombie (even Zombie lui Kang) would give a flying F*** about the dragon king. Point 6. The fans would be outraged. Zince boon is listening to fans, trying to make a serious, legit, dark game, I doubt very much that they would go back to their umk3 roots and pull a stupid stunt like this. Howver I do believe a 14 year old might believe it, or even start the rumor. Point 7. A poster here even admitted to simply taking the MK4 lui Kang and photoshopping it to look like a zombie. EVen with this fact out there people are still crying "The Messiah, THe Messahiah! This is his Gourd!!!!" btw, I just got confimation Ronald Mcdonald will be appearing in the game. He aparantly has 8 spaces on the select screen. Point 8. Just becuase a character is in the game (ala Konquest) people make the mistake of thinking he will be in the KOMBAT mode as a character with a story, and ending and Fatalities. COme on people. The interview with Steve said rain would be in Konquest and there are already fools on this message board saying "Rain is officially confirmed" and adding them to their List of characters. Do you not think its possible thats what could have happened with Lui Kang ? Point 9. A good Plot point in Konquest would be visiting the shrine of Lui Kang in order to learn something from the deceased hero. A Bad plot point is bringing a dead hero back to fight as a Zombie. I know its a hard concept people, but try, would might see how professional video game makers might choose the former. Point 10. What Fatalities could a ghost really do ? What a waste of time. Point 11. If the above 10 logical points have not convinced you, then even Midway itself will not convince you. Continue to rock back and forth while thinking of lui kang.
POINT 1 - Granted
POINT 2 - Granted
POINT 3 - Granted
POINT 4 - As far as Zombies are concerned I think the best idea would be to regard any character that comes back from the dead as an Oni. In that case, see Drahmin. Ghosts, well, the closest we've ever had to a ghost was Khameleon/Chameleon & Human Smoke and they were in MKT.
POINT 5 - See response to point 4.
POINT 6 - I doubt the fans would be outraged, in fact, they would probably welcome it. I for one, wouldn't welcome it.
POINT 7 - Granted. Midway sent me an e-mail confiriming Ronald as well.
POINT 8 - We still don't have the full cast of characters yet, I think it is foolishness to rule out anybody.
POINT 9 - Granted
POINT 10 - Didn't Human Smoke have a possession fatality in MKT?
POINT 11 - Granted.


Good point to christopher777 & bajar for those posts. There are still more characters to be confirmed. Most likely, Lui Kang will probably return in Konquest Mode, but i could be wrong. And, by tha way, ive never heard of Stryker being confirmed up until u said it on ur post. I dont believe that shit about stryker being confirmed but let Midway and Ed Boon himself prove me wrong.
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06/18/2004 06:48 PM (UTC)
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06/18/2004 06:52 PM (UTC)
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Good point to christopher777 & bajar for those posts. There are still more characters to be confirmed. Most likely, Lui Kang will probably return in Konquest Mode, but i could be wrong. And, by tha way, ive never heard of Stryker being confirmed up until u said it on ur post. I dont believe that shit about stryker being confirmed but let Midway and Ed Boon himself prove me wrong.


Stryker wasnt confirmed. I was using that to make fun of people who make up rumors and those who choose to believe them. I was also illustrating how someones opinion or lie can become fact on this message board.

As you see, even my extremely sarcastic comments made someone believe for a second that Stryker was "possibly confirmed".

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06/18/2004 08:08 PM (UTC)
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Christopher777 Wrote:
Oh my,

I am shocked by two things.

Firstly, that was MK Gold. The "Hell Skull Trone room" was from MK Gold, and was a remake of a Umk3 stage. That was Mileena, doing her gay fatality at Lui Kang.


Secondly, So many people here are like litte children. Someone says something about a character being confirmed, and BAM, you believe it.

BTW, I know ed Boon, and Stryker is confimred. I SWEAR! It was in an interview! NO.. I Don't have a link.. but TRUST ME! ITS TRUE!!!

Lui Kang Will most likely not be a playable Character for Kombat. He will be in KONQUEST in some form or another. I am guessing the spirit of Kang will teach you something in conquest, but to say that he will be a zombie on the main grid is just insane. Its completely retarded to think that there will be two lui Kangs on the select screen.

Again show me an oficial interview with Boon where it says Kang will be a playable character with story, ending and two fatalities. Of course he's in the game, but in KONQUEST MODE.

Lets go through the excersise

What would be more logical.

Remember, to play the game, you have to only make anwsers that are LOGICAL.

Whats more logical..

To Kill off a character, finally, and advance the story in amazing way, proving to your fans youve still got it.

or..

Returning to the roots of Mortal Kombat 3 and 4, to completely ignore the fans and reverse the plot by making Ghosts and Zombies of old characters?

Point 1.
Midway has never done the Ghost or Zombie thing. Its dumb. If they wanted to bring back Lui Kang (which they don't except for Konquest) then why the hell would they bother with the zombie thing? They would just bring him back, fully intact like Scorpion, Mileena, Johnny Cage and a whole host of others.

Though you already said it, Scorpion is technically a ghost, just not ghost like. Besies I dont think they ever said he is half ghost half zombie, just ghost and zombie like, I also think that the ghost and zombie are 2 different forms, (like fighting styles) rather than 2 different fighters.

Point 2.
Ghosts are not know for their ability to hurt people in Martial Arts. In Fact, Ghosts are known to have a very difficult time even affecting matter, like alone performing advanced and complex fights. THINK peopl dont just believe a rumor because you like a character, tis happens every game, and every game people start these stupid rumors and idiots carry them off like trophies to spread the good word.

I agree with you wholeheartedly about the dumb people spreading rumors, but like I addressed in point 1, Scorpion is technically a ghost with a body, they could easily give Liu Kang his body as well and he would have no problem hurting people.

Point 3.
There would NEVER be 2 lui Kangs on the select screen. Just like there wouldnt be 2 Raidens, or Reptiles or Kitanas. This being said, since the only way the zombie/gost form thin would work would be if it was an alternate costume. However that would not work because... see point 4

Wouldnt be too quick to judge, there have been 2 Sub-Zero's and 2 Smoke's on a character select screen.

Point 4.
Zombies and Ghosts are extremely different. Zombies are slow, brain eating, idiots with no thoughts or purposes of their own. They are physical forms which can (very slowly) affect matter. Ghosts are NON-PHYSICAL. Now please tell me how one would reconcile these differences when its comes to story, fatalties, endings and fighting styles ? The anwser is, you wouldnt. It would be very difficult to explain would a ghost killed you, and even more difficult to explain how a ghost and zombie are one being, and seem to have both a quick non-physical and slow physical ability to do shaolin fist.

Good Point!

Point 5.
Zombies Often don't like doing anything but eating brains. By Definittion they have lost all will. They are also traditionally slaves. It would seem unlikely that a zombie (even Zombie lui Kang) would give a flying F*** about the dragon king.

Good Point again, I however think that Liu Kang isnt going to be a true zombie, just zombielike.

Point 6.
The fans would be outraged. Zince boon is listening to fans, trying to make a serious, legit, dark game, I doubt very much that they would go back to their umk3 roots and pull a stupid stunt like this. Howver I do believe a 14 year old might believe it, or even start the rumor.

I think it is well known that a 14 year old didnt start the Liu Kang rumor, it was indeed a German magazine a few months back, (who knows, may have been run by 14 year olds) though Midway says that some of the German magazine content may be incorrect, it is somewhat credible and if Im not mistaken there have been other credible sources that has mentioned Liu Kang.

Point 7.
A poster here even admitted to simply taking the MK4 lui Kang and photoshopping it to look like a zombie. EVen with this fact out there people are still crying "The Messiah, THe Messahiah! This is his Gourd!!!!"

btw, I just got confimation Ronald Mcdonald will be appearing in the game. He aparantly has 8 spaces on the select screen.

People that cant tell a photoshopped MK4 Liu Kang from a MKD graphic Liu Kang are not true MK fans and should either take the time to be updated or just shut up about MK, you again make a good point. OH MY GOD Ronal Mcdonald is in the game, Whoohoo Ed Boon has heard our prayers, spread the news to every lowlife you can find.

Point 8.
Just becuase a character is in the game (ala Konquest) people make the mistake of thinking he will be in the KOMBAT mode as a character with a story, and ending and Fatalities. COme on people. The interview with Steve said rain would be in Konquest and there are already fools on this message board saying "Rain is officially confirmed" and adding them to their List of characters. Do you not think its possible thats what could have happened with Lui Kang ?

Definately possible since not much has been said about Liu Kang and I could see how the Liu Kang being a character could easily (and understandably) be considered a Kombat character, but it was plainly said Rain is a konquest character and its ridiculous how Rain is being labled as a kombat character.

Point 9.
A good Plot point in Konquest would be visiting the shrine of Lui Kang in order to learn something from the deceased hero. A Bad plot point is bringing a dead hero back to fight as a Zombie. I know its a hard concept people, but try, would might see how professional video game makers might choose the former.

Depends how they handle the plot on bringing Kang back, Im not one of those that shout "THOSE WHO DIE NEED TO STAY DEAD". I think if they can make it work and it would benefit the storyline then they should do it. Another thing people must realize is that a Mortal Kombat game is a fantasy game, not reality, if people paid for a pure reality game we could take away almost every fatality (killing someone that would be impossible to a human i.e. dragon bite, heart rip), just about every special move, if not all, must be taken out.

Point 10.
What Fatalities could a ghost really do ? What a waste of time.

They could turn invisible and throw random stuff like chairs, pots, pans, radios, then finish it off with a knife between the opponents eyes, I dont know, use your imagination.

Point 11.
If the above 10 logical points have not convinced you, then even Midway itself will not convince you. Continue to rock back and forth while thinking of lui kang.

What was it I was supposed to be convinced of, that Liu Kang isnt a kombatant? Well you do raise good points but I believe I have successfully challenged you on some of your points, so I guess Im not 100% convinced, of course I never believe anything until the final game comes out because you never know what will be taken out or put in at the last minute (i.e. Belokk, ripped clothing, etc)

Im done.

me too.

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06/18/2004 08:11 PM (UTC)
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Just to point out that my responses from my last post is in the posters quote, I have put my responses underneath each point, just to let you know so that ya'll dont think I was clogging a post.
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06/18/2004 08:26 PM (UTC)
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Christopher777 Wrote:

Point 1.
Midway has never done the Ghost or Zombie thing. Its dumb. If they wanted to bring back Lui Kang (which they don't except for Konquest) then why the hell would they bother with the zombie thing? They would just bring him back, fully intact like Scorpion, Mileena, Johnny Cage and a whole host of others.



they make it cuz his death was more important than any of them. also scorpion didnt return intact and his head and moves are proof of it.

Christopher777 Wrote:

Point 2.
Ghosts are not know for their ability to hurt people in Martial Arts. In Fact, Ghosts are known to have a very difficult time even affecting matter, like alone performing advanced and complex fights. THINK peopl dont just believe a rumor because you like a character, tis happens every game, and every game people start these stupid rumors and idiots carry them off like trophies to spread the good word.


scorpion is a ghost aswell as far as i remember specter and ghost arent too diferent. bout the rumors you're right

Christopher777 Wrote:
Point 3.
There would NEVER be 2 lui Kangs on the select screen. Just like there wouldnt be 2 Raidens, or Reptiles or Kitanas. This being said, since the only way the zombie/gost form thin would work would be if it was an alternate costume. However that would not work because... see point 4


and what if he is unplayable?

Christopher777 Wrote:

Point 4.
Zombies and Ghosts are extremely different. Zombies are slow, brain eating, idiots with no thoughts or purposes of their own. They are physical forms which can (very slowly) affect matter. Ghosts are NON-PHYSICAL. Now please tell me how one would reconcile these differences when its comes to story, fatalties, endings and fighting styles ? The anwser is, you wouldnt. It would be very difficult to explain would a ghost killed you, and even more difficult to explain how a ghost and zombie are one being, and seem to have both a quick non-physical and slow physical ability to do shaolin fist.


yes its almost unposible to explain both are the same.


Christopher777 Wrote:

Point 5.
Zombies Often don't like doing anything but eating brains. By Definittion they have lost all will. They are also traditionally slaves. It would seem unlikely that a zombie (even Zombie lui Kang) would give a flying F*** about the dragon king.


the legend bout zombies is that they were fresh human bodies revived by necromancers to make them their mindless slaves as you said, also it was said that they could do anything that a human could do,but as they were death they couldn feel or think also they didnt needed to eat.(that includes brains), something that could explain the zombie kang is that after his death the dk stoled the body and revived him.


Christopher777 Wrote:

Point 10.
What Fatalities could a ghost really do ? What a waste of time.



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06/19/2004 01:15 AM (UTC)
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Christopher777 Wrote:
Oh my,

I am shocked by two things.

Firstly, that was MK Gold. The "Hell Skull Trone room" was from MK Gold, and was a remake of a Umk3 stage. That was Mileena, doing her gay fatality at Lui Kang.

Secondly, So many people here are like litte children. Someone says something about a character being confirmed, and BAM, you believe it.

BTW, I know ed Boon, and Stryker is confimred. I SWEAR! It was in an interview! NO.. I Don't have a link.. but TRUST ME! ITS TRUE!!!

Lui Kang Will most likely not be a playable Character for Kombat. He will be in KONQUEST in some form or another. I am guessing the spirit of Kang will teach you something in conquest, but to say that he will be a zombie on the main grid is just insane. Its completely retarded to think that there will be two lui Kangs on the select screen.

Again show me an oficial interview with Boon where it says Kang will be a playable character with story, ending and two fatalities. Of course he's in the game, but in KONQUEST MODE.

Lets go through the excersise

What would be more logical.

Remember, to play the game, you have to only make anwsers that are LOGICAL.

Whats more logical..

To Kill off a character, finally, and advance the story in amazing way, proving to your fans youve still got it.

or..

Returning to the roots of Mortal Kombat 3 and 4, to completely ignore the fans and reverse the plot by making Ghosts and Zombies of old characters?

Point 1.
Midway has never done the Ghost or Zombie thing. Its dumb. If they wanted to bring back Lui Kang (which they don't except for Konquest) then why the hell would they bother with the zombie thing? They would just bring him back, fully intact like Scorpion, Mileena, Johnny Cage and a whole host of others.

Point 2.
Ghosts are not know for their ability to hurt people in Martial Arts. In Fact, Ghosts are known to have a very difficult time even affecting matter, like alone performing advanced and complex fights. THINK peopl dont just believe a rumor because you like a character, tis happens every game, and every game people start these stupid rumors and idiots carry them off like trophies to spread the good word.

Point 3.
There would NEVER be 2 lui Kangs on the select screen. Just like there wouldnt be 2 Raidens, or Reptiles or Kitanas. This being said, since the only way the zombie/gost form thin would work would be if it was an alternate costume. However that would not work because... see point 4

Point 4.
Zombies and Ghosts are extremely different. Zombies are slow, brain eating, idiots with no thoughts or purposes of their own. They are physical forms which can (very slowly) affect matter. Ghosts are NON-PHYSICAL. Now please tell me how one would reconcile these differences when its comes to story, fatalties, endings and fighting styles ? The anwser is, you wouldnt. It would be very difficult to explain would a ghost killed you, and even more difficult to explain how a ghost and zombie are one being, and seem to have both a quick non-physical and slow physical ability to do shaolin fist.

Point 5.
Zombies Often don't like doing anything but eating brains. By Definittion they have lost all will. They are also traditionally slaves. It would seem unlikely that a zombie (even Zombie lui Kang) would give a flying F*** about the dragon king.

Point 6.
The fans would be outraged. Zince boon is listening to fans, trying to make a serious, legit, dark game, I doubt very much that they would go back to their umk3 roots and pull a stupid stunt like this. Howver I do believe a 14 year old might believe it, or even start the rumor.

Point 7.
A poster here even admitted to simply taking the MK4 lui Kang and photoshopping it to look like a zombie. EVen with this fact out there people are still crying "The Messiah, THe Messahiah! This is his Gourd!!!!"

btw, I just got confimation Ronald Mcdonald will be appearing in the game. He aparantly has 8 spaces on the select screen.

Point 8.
Just becuase a character is in the game (ala Konquest) people make the mistake of thinking he will be in the KOMBAT mode as a character with a story, and ending and Fatalities. COme on people. The interview with Steve said rain would be in Konquest and there are already fools on this message board saying "Rain is officially confirmed" and adding them to their List of characters. Do you not think its possible thats what could have happened with Lui Kang ?

Point 9.
A good Plot point in Konquest would be visiting the shrine of Lui Kang in order to learn something from the deceased hero. A Bad plot point is bringing a dead hero back to fight as a Zombie. I know its a hard concept people, but try, would might see how professional video game makers might choose the former.

Point 10.
What Fatalities could a ghost really do ? What a waste of time.

Point 11.
If the above 10 logical points have not convinced you, then even Midway itself will not convince you. Continue to rock back and forth while thinking of lui kang.

Im done.


Very well said. All but the Stryker in MK:D do I believe. He was a fuckin waist just like Bo Rai Cho. I also believe that Lui Kang will be in Konquest Mode only in some form or another. If he is in the game other than KM, then how the hell would they pull off the Zombie/Ghost look? Scorpion is dead, a spectre and he has a human form. He could have the zombie for 1 look and the ghost look for his alt. but I really believe like you that he will be in Konquest only.
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DMitch
06/19/2004 01:25 AM (UTC)
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So you're ultimate_ninja with a new account telling more lies?
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illu§ion
06/19/2004 01:47 AM (UTC)
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-nth- Wrote:
indeed, I can admit when I'm wrong
I'm no MK fanatic, so I guess I jumped to an ill-advised conclusion, reason being that I've never played MK: Gold nor have seen any screenshots of the sort (which I should've confirmed)

DMitch Wrote:
So you're ultimate_ninja with a new account telling more lies?


...

=/.
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JoRdANMan
06/19/2004 02:12 PM (UTC)
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-nth- Wrote:
I don't think anyone has posted anything about this yet, then again I didn't bother to search...

but I was watching G4 last night and was watching Filter and which was counting down the "most controversial games" and I saw a clip of what looked to me was from Deception, but was entitled from Deadly Alliance, and I'm pretty damn sure he wasn't in DA, getting impaled by a number of nail from the mouth of Mileena

just a thought

I didnt read everyones post so i dont know if everyone has said this already. This info has to be false because how would Mileena ever have a nail spit fatality when we already seen both of her fatalitys, the head bite one, and when she rips ur leg off and hits ur head off. So r u trying to say she has 3 fatalys?? I dont think so
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HoodedGansta
06/19/2004 02:27 PM (UTC)
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whoever said there goin to wait until august to show us sektor. bro your worng wrong sektor isnt in the game.that whole thing ultimate ninja saidd about sektor and the living forest were false.
That doesn't mean that he isn't in it. That just means he isn't confirmed. But from the cyborg pic on the select screen I wouldn't dought that he is in fact a playable character.
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illu§ion
06/19/2004 06:15 PM (UTC)
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Read my above quote. Christ.

He got confuse with MK:G, thinking it was MK:D.
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LaTeRaLuS
06/19/2004 06:19 PM (UTC)
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Remember theultimateninja guys, tread lightly around this.
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CrowClock
06/19/2004 07:00 PM (UTC)
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DMitch Wrote:
So you're ultimate_ninja with a new account telling more lies?


i don't think it's nice to point fingers like that
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