Longer Health Bars? Please, for once?!
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posted05/05/2008 02:54 AM (UTC)by
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Sub-Frost055
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It would be nice to have this MK game with long health bars. I mean, even doing a 12% combo reduces a lot of health. I, for once, would like to see this game have health bars that would reduce a lot slower or have them longer.

It wouldn't hurt the game at all, just longer fights is all I'm asking for. What about you guys?

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04/27/2008 04:15 PM (UTC)
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Might as well make better fights since there wont be any fatalities.
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04/27/2008 04:36 PM (UTC)
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A 12% combo is ALWAYS going to reduce your health bar by 12%.
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04/27/2008 04:40 PM (UTC)
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]{0MBAT Wrote:
A 12% combo is ALWAYS going to reduce your health bar by 12%.

Your facts have no business here!

I don't expect the fight engine to be so fantastic we need longer matches. It's not like that's ever really been their forte.

And as a pretty casual gamer without the idiot-savant skills of MUGEN fiddlers and gameplay junkies, I definitely don't want to waste more time getting to the stuff I'm interested in -- story, characters, videos, etc.

... Besides, aren't there usual menu options to extend healthbars?... Stick with that!
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Shibata
04/27/2008 04:55 PM (UTC)
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I don't know. As a player, trying to make chip damage relevant in the last few MK games (whenever possible) was pretty pointless really, because a lot of pokes seemed to do such inconsequential amounts of damage that it was barely worth utilising them as tools. I found myself racking up a dozen pokes and it was almost as if it didn't even show on my opponents vitality bar. I actually think the damage scaling was fairly conservative in the last couple of games for the most part. I don't think I'd want "longer" vitality bars to be honest. Although an option wouldn't hurt.
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04/27/2008 05:06 PM (UTC)
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Yes i would like the health bars either longer, or to mkae the hits not do as much damage, And just get rid of the damn timer already, i always just turn it off in the options, but do we really need a timer? its a fight to the death, not till time runs out..
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04/27/2008 05:12 PM (UTC)
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McDaniel Wrote:
Yes i would like the health bars either longer, or to mkae the hits not do as much damage, And just get rid of the damn timer already, i always just turn it off in the options, but do we really need a timer? its a fight to the death, not till time runs out..

Unless you fight until the timer runs out... and then it's a fight until the time runs out...
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04/27/2008 05:19 PM (UTC)
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]{0MBAT Wrote:
A 12% combo is ALWAYS going to reduce your health bar by 12%.


Well, I was just being dramatic with the numbers. But you know what I meant by this, right?

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04/27/2008 05:21 PM (UTC)
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Either that or reduce damage.

Ashrah's throw takes out 20% of your life bar. How stupid.
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04/27/2008 05:40 PM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
McDaniel Wrote:
Yes i would like the health bars either longer, or to mkae the hits not do as much damage, And just get rid of the damn timer already, i always just turn it off in the options, but do we really need a timer? its a fight to the death, not till time runs out..

Unless you fight until the timer runs out... and then it's a fight until the time runs out...


OK, its SUPPOSED TO BE a fight to the death, not til the time runs out.
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Onaga
04/27/2008 08:46 PM (UTC)
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Do we really need the health bars to be any longer ?
I mean we could just polish up our skills of blocking and evading attacks.
Why would we want the fight to be longer?
The goal is to win,
why prolong that ?
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fatalitymaster
04/28/2008 12:04 PM (UTC)
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get rid of life bars they suck lol use a blood system like in mario bros brawl
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04/28/2008 06:59 PM (UTC)
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fatalitymaster Wrote:
get rid of life bars they suck lol use a blood system like in mario bros brawl


um no thats just plain out retarded. Just about every fighting games have healthbars including Tekken,DOA,VF, SF, and of course my favorite MK. Health bars will always stay. This is not SSBB which is for kids, lol.
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Deathbearer
04/28/2008 07:22 PM (UTC)
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Longer health bars wouldn't be a problem but I don't think they're overly important.
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04/28/2008 07:54 PM (UTC)
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We have three significant options:

-health bars.

-death according to damage allocation: cut at the neck by sword? Goner.

-retard system aka Brawl.
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04/29/2008 12:40 AM (UTC)
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The Brawl thing is a big no.
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04/29/2008 01:09 AM (UTC)
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V1LLA1N Wrote:
um no thats just plain out retarded. Just about every fighting games have healthbars including Tekken,DOA,VF, SF, and of course my favorite MK. Health bars will always stay. This is not SSBB which is for kids, lol.

What exactly is the distinction between SSBB and conventional beat 'em up health bars? I really can't imagine it as anything but an incremental shift in presentation, rather than any practical difference...


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on hit { $rand(1,7) | damage }

alias damage {
if ($1 > 5) { lololololomgudieeee }
else { return }
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05/02/2008 01:19 AM (UTC)
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Shibata Wrote:
I don't know. As a player, trying to make chip damage relevant in the last few MK games (whenever possible) was pretty pointless really, because a lot of pokes seemed to do such inconsequential amounts of damage that it was barely worth utilising them as tools. I found myself racking up a dozen pokes and it was almost as if it didn't even show on my opponents vitality bar. I actually think the damage scaling was fairly conservative in the last couple of games for the most part. I don't think I'd want "longer" vitality bars to be honest. Although an option wouldn't hurt.


You haven't played much online at high level have you?

Chip damage was KEY in close matches, speaking as a player myself with over 20, 000 matches between MKD and MKA I can vouche for thatglasses

Chip damage is NEVER pointless in any fighting game unless blocking hits doesn't do any damage(which never happens in fighting games, there's always some kind of chip damage)



On the topic, I think there really is no point in extending the size of the bar. I mean if you compare 2D MK's vs. 3D or even MK2 vs. UMK3, the power bars look a little longer in UMK3..

And in the 3D MK's they look/appear larger but really isn't that much.

All they have to do is reduce damage on certain moves, I doubt or will be very surprised if they health bars are a lot longer.
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05/02/2008 03:00 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:


You haven't played much online at high level have you?


I played plenty enough to know that the only reason chip damage mattered online was because the game was so shitty and laggy that pokes almost became free hits because they nearly hit you before you could even see them coming. That aside, I think you're overstating their importance even so. But please give us all another lecture about how right you are because you have a badge which says "I PLAY MKA ONLINE."
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mkflegend
05/03/2008 01:24 AM (UTC)
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Shibata Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:


You haven't played much online at high level have you?


I played plenty enough to know that the only reason chip damage mattered online was because the game was so shitty and laggy that pokes almost became free hits because they nearly hit you before you could even see them coming. That aside, I think you're overstating their importance even so. But please give us all another lecture about how right you are because you have a badge which says "I PLAY MKA ONLINE."


That happens in every fighting game online...lag happens, not the game simple fact dude. Don't like it, don't play online. Simple as that. I've played every fighting game online thus far except for Tekken, and it happens in every game with chip damage....

lol, no need to lecture...I'm judging this based on my experience which is more then I can say for certain people.
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05/03/2008 02:15 AM (UTC)
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on hit { $rand(1,7) | damage }

alias damage {
if ($1 > 5) { lololololomgudieeee }
else { return }
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......the hell? lol.
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MyQueenSindel
05/03/2008 02:50 AM (UTC)
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how about something like changing them around in options, smallest, normal, or largest life gauge? like every other normal fighter?
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Deathbearer
05/03/2008 02:54 AM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:
how about something like changing them around in options, smallest, normal, or largest life gauge? like every other normal fighter?


cuz MK isn't normal? actually that wouldn't be a bad idea.
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05/03/2008 05:43 PM (UTC)
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When I first buy a MK game I turn the timer off and never think about it again,lol. The timer is pointless. Now it would be cool to have a time mode, but I dnt care, point is i think we are going to have longer life bars because boon said that there will be no death traps to end the rounds quickly and that you would have to pretty much beat your opponet to death. So yeah, I think we'll have longer fights.
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filth
05/03/2008 07:56 PM (UTC)
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they should put in a see saw type meter like in world heroes. i always loved that mode. matches could last for quite some time while playing that mode.
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