He'll probably have new moves, but I still like the idea of Smoke being Scorpion's "palette swap." (Palette swaps no longer exist, but characters can still be similar) I don't mind characters being similar (not the same, mind you) in terms of fighting, as long as they're different enough to have their own personality/etc. Actually, Smoke having some of Scorpion's moves might take Scorpion's story into a new direction (use your imagination).

Most of the sources on the board confirmed that Smoke won't be a pallet swap anymore, so don't worry about it.

Jerrod Wrote: Most of the sources on the board confirmed that Smoke won't be a pallet swap anymore, so don't worry about it.

According to certain people AND looking at the select screen, Smoke appears to be a Smoke Elemental type thing now. Major step up from cyborg right?

fo' sho' I think its tight he wont be human or cyborg so it adds an element of surprise and thats tight.

NoObSaIbOt777 Wrote: According to certain people AND looking at the select screen, Smoke appears to be a Smoke Elemental type thing now. Major step up from cyborg right?

I'm looking at the select screen and I don't see a shroud of "smoke." Konqrr stated he won't be human nor cyborg, it was just elaborated on by other people from there.

Yeah, the whole elemental thing was brought up as a theory by a few of us, including myself, months ago. Yes, it was based on Konqrr's post stating that Smoke wouldn't be entire human or cyborg. But you have to think storyline wise. Unless Smoke was blessed by the Elder Gods for some reason unknown as of now, than he will probably by a new design for a half-human half-cyborg, with Ninja and Cyborg alts. That seems to be the most logical assumption, until we can get a render or an in game pic.

I can see making Smoke similar to Scorpion, since there's speculation that they're brothers.

As far as his moves are concerned, how about this:

Smoke Bomb: Smoke conjures up a large ball of smoke that he fires at the opponent's feet, where it explodes, damaging them and paralyzing them as they are blinded by the smoke cloud. This can be done in the air, as well.

Etheral Stomp: Smoke disappears in a puff of smoke, only to reappear over the opponent's head, where he proceeds to do an M. Bison-style head stomp on their cranium.

Etheral Form: Smoke temporarily becomes intangible, allowing him to attack the opponent unharmed for around 5 seconds.

Flying Scissors Kick: Like Scorpion's Scissor Kick in MK2, but aimed at the opponent's head.


As for his new storyline...Just check out my version of it in the Character Story Speculation thread.

SynjoDeonecros Wrote: Etheral Form: Smoke temporarily becomes intangible, allowing him to attack the opponent unharmed for around 5 seconds.

Holy shit. Major cheese. Reminds me of Jade in UMK3.

I hope Smoke isn't a palette swap either, but the rumours about him speculate that he won't be! And he won't be cyborg or human. So I can't wait to see what he looks like. I also hope he has all new moves of his own. Here are some attacks I made for him which I posted in a thread before.

Smokes new special attacks.

Projectile Invincibility

Firstly, he should have the ability to become smoke. This would give him his first new special move. As smoke, the projectile would just go through him. What would be cool is if it was just his chest that became smoke whilst his legs an head stayed solid. The smokey torso would have the projectile pass right through. Also, if a parrying system was introduced, instead of Smoke deflecting an attack, he could turn the part of the body being aimed at into smoke, which would maybe send the opponent off balance and counter attack that way.

Mist Punch/Kick

My second idea is that he has the Mist Punch/Kick move I created before. His fist or foot becomes mist and diffuses across the arena and becomes solid right in their face delivering a nicely damaging blow. That of course would be a speedy attack.

Choke/Veil

Use a smokey haze, Smoke can render the opponent immobile by making them choke on the smoke or veiling their vision for a short while allowing for a free attack. The enemy can be seen coughing and spluttering or even trying to waft the smoke away.

Combo Ring

Basically Smoke becomes a smokey ring around the opponent. You see the ring moving up and down and the camera will spin around the opponent showing Smokes hands and feet and maybe even his head appearing and attacking the enemy in all places and from all sides.

Teleport

Well, why not? He becomes smoke and diffuses across the arena. And if you want to be unoriginal, add the punch or kick to make it similar or the same as Scorpion. I wouldn’t though.

Dashing Haze

This is a dash attack. Basically, smoke charges at the opponent. They go to retaliate either by blocking attacking or whatever. As he nears them he phases out into smoke, appears behind them and attacks from behind. This could be a cool combo opener.

The smoke ring reminds me of Midnight's Mist form attack in Eternal Champions.

I wish his look, if he is part elemental would resembal Doku's in Ninja Gaiden(2nd battle CHPTR 14). He could be a grey haze, but still have some detail.(Maybe ethreal body but solid clothing, ala the Samuria wraiths from Genma Onimusha)
Here are some of his moves.

Ethreal choke:Smoke turns his hands into smoke and shoots them at the opponet, grabbing them by the neck and pinnig them to the wall. The rest of his body then follows and reconnects with his arms.

Constrict:Smoke turns into an ethreal dragon and coils around the opponet, constricting them.

Concentration: Smoke glows purple and then makes six copies of himself. This is ment to confuse the opponet. It makes it a guessing game in trying to find the real smoke.

Demonic haze:Smoke dematerializes through out the areana, covering it completely with smoke. You then see flashes of light on the opponet. These are hits from Smoke as he warps through the mist delivering random blows to the opponent. The myst than fades and Smoke will then materializes again.

Phase Kick:Smoke turns into smoke and passes through the opponet. He materiealizes in back of them and delivers a swift kick to the back of the oponet's head.

Teleport:Smoke simply dematerializes into vapor and rematerializes somewhere else.

Wanderer Wrote: SynjoDeonecros Wrote: Etheral Form: Smoke temporarily becomes intangible, allowing him to attack the opponent unharmed for around 5 seconds. Holy shit. Major cheese. Reminds me of Jade in UMK3.

Well, yes and no, since I believe Jade's immunity move was only meant for projectiles, not physical attacks. I'd like to think about it as more of a reverse Shadow Ball (Noob Saibot's projectile, renders the opponent's attacks and blocks ineffective for a very short time). You may ajust the length of effectiveness accordingly.

SmokeNc-017 Wrote: The smoke ring reminds me of Midnight's Mist form attack in Eternal Champions. I wish his look, if he is part elemental would resembal Doku's in Ninja Gaiden(2nd battle CHPTR 14). He could be a grey haze, but still have some detail.(Maybe ethreal body but solid clothing, ala the Samuria wraiths from Genma Onimusha) Here are some of his moves. Ethreal choke:Smoke turns his hands into smoke and shoots them at the opponet, grabbing them by the neck and pinnig them to the wall. The rest of his body then follows and reconnects with his arms. Constrict:Smoke turns into an ethreal dragon and coils around the opponet, constricting them. Concentration: Smoke glows purple and then makes six copies of himself. This is ment to confuse the opponet. It makes it a guessing game in trying to find the real smoke. Demonic haze:Smoke dematerializes through out the areana, covering it completely with smoke. You then see flashes of light on the opponet. These are hits from Smoke as he warps through the mist delivering random blows to the opponent. The myst than fades and Smoke will then materializes again. Phase Kick:Smoke turns into smoke and passes through the opponet. He materiealizes in back of them and delivers a swift kick to the back of the oponet's head. Teleport:Smoke simply dematerializes into vapor and rematerializes somewhere else.

I'm hoping for a look sorta like that too. I say he should be a human shaped smoke figure with grey ninja cloths on. Cause they said he wouldn't be human nor cyborg, but never said not a ninja. So I'm hoping for that, like his arms, hands, upper face around the eyes could all be smoke and then he is wearing a unique grey ninja costume. Cause I still want Smoke to be one of the ninjas, even if he is not human.

As for his moves. Since everyone has 6 moves each, I would like him to have the spear and teleport along with 4 new moves. So Smoke and Scorpion are similiar but different enough to choose from and both could have way different combos depending on the 4 other moves they have with the spear and teleport punch moves.