Noob and Smoke are NOT su's.

I like them how they are but it would be better if they had a weapon along with better fatalities more fighting styles and better specials. Also their alternate costume could be them as seperate characters.

I for one really enjoy the Noob Smoke pairing and think they complement each other well (even though Smoke stole all of Noob's old moves, and Noob now has Smoke's move for some reason... grr) and add to the wonderful confusion factor more than Noob did alone. I can't deny that even though I spend most of my time as Noob and bring in Smoke only for style branching combos, disorientation, and cheapness, I feel like Noob got kinda shafted in the moves department. Not only does Smoke have more specials, but most of his plain melee moves do 2-3 points more damage than Noob's. So while Smoke is Noob's biatch, he's more of a needed bodyguard than slave to a more powerful master. I do hope they are unlockable by themselves, with their own 3 styles (a weapon would be nice) and their own special moves (maybe Noob getting his own moves back), but I won't be disappointed if they're not. I love Noob to pieces, I love the pairing of the two, now I just have to learn the fine art of using them effectively, so that my opponents will have the same "WTF just happened?? *jaw drop*" reaction as I do when playing against them in Arcade mode

No no NO!!! If they're apart of the 24 character grid, they aren't super unlockables.