Yawn!!! whatever MKF. Like usual you are all talk. None of that long rambling bullshit has anything to do with setting up times to get matches in. How typical and why is it I'm not surprised? Lol on you saying that the Secret MKgod shit wasn't the only lie you told. Like I said you lie just about everything you talk about don't let me bring stretch into this to verify what I'm saying.

Yep, that's MKF for you. I didn't realize he lies too, although he has not lied to me so I can not attest to that.

MKF, just to address some of the points you made earlier:

1. As far as MKD vs. MKA, I am not going to explain to anyone anymore why MKD is the better overall game. I went into excruciating detail in my post on MKAC. If anybody wants to read it, I am sure it can be found on the MKAC message boards.

2. I am not siding with JTF or MKAC or anybody else on that issue. If you'll recall I was the one that created the thread in question, JTF and some other people agreed with me and continued posting on it.

PS: MKF, you are correct about one thing. On this particular topic, I was the one that threw an insult at you first, and for that I will apologize. However, the word I used was meant not so much as an insult but more as a cumulative term for all the things I find irritating about you, such as not making sense, not reading posts before you reply to them, making long, long, long rambling posts that annoy everybody that dares to read them, and always boasting about your self.

Take this piece of advice from me, and this is relevant not for MK only but for life in general. Never boast about your self. If you are good at something people will notice and will commend you for it. If you talk about yourself all the time this will only annoy people and they will eventually resent you for it.

Well, you're entitled to your own opinion but most of the reasons these guys hate me are retarded and one of them just got banned recently for making retarded threads...hmmm, wonder why that is? I was just saying a lot of people sent me pms about fujin that's all.

If you're holding a grudge against me, I'm puzzled as to what because I feel I have no problem with you but if you feel otherwise hey man, that's your beef not mine dude. lol

Unlike some others here, I'm not going to waste my time "hating" on someone I never met nor intend to, that's why it's laughable why these people think they know me because they don't.

To answer your last question, that's easy because I have in fact only been on a couple of times. I've only seen you on a few times also when I've gone on, one night on halo 2 and another you were just sitting on the dashboard not sure what you were doing but you weren't on any game. Other then that, I haven't seen anyone much since work has been a pain lately.

Actually, I used to sketch but now I sculpt

P.S. this is the only forum where like 4 people hate me, I post all over on here and believe me I have a lot friends and am very liked, a few sour apples won't ruin my appetite

You weren't a noob dude, you just didn't post much on here then again you really don't now except when it comes to typical anti-mkf threads or when you made that thread a few months ago that pissed everyone off on here. But that was nothing compared to mavs idiotic threads.

I talked shit about our games because it was the truth, if anyone picks that stage purposely 8 times in a row their opponent has a right to say something because you don't pick that stage without intentions of "an easy win" with DT's turned ON. I've been playing MK for a long time, that might fool one of these other guys but not me man. I never had a problem with your "style" per-se just that one incident you did. I won't complain about something unless I have a damn good reason to. Let me ask you this, you don't have a problem with say Mav's bs, red's laggy excuses, Groy blaming dairou cheese posts in the gg's thread at times? Malone once said, you know MKF is a good player people that give him a hard time verbally or have a poor attitude turns him off. He tried hinting at something there but apparently nobody was paying attention. Noticed how I always played B N R, alex, malone, aldagod way back....guys that no offense are way better in MKD then anyone else in this thread getting on my case. Why's that? I mean if I'm "so afraid of losing"...think about it, I don't care if I lose or win I care about the outcome attitude and that will always annoy me. Don't care who agrees and who disagrees. If you can't win or lose gracefully, move on.

You misunderstood the part about lying, you see I don't unless there's a really important reason to like say my friends life or mine or something. I really have nothing to gain about mere video game with people who take this shit way too seriously..

WOW, lol groy you have to be either seriously SLOW or blind. I told you in the other thread what TIME I go on so stop with the pointless banter as usual and either meet me there sometime or don't. Ohh yeah I'll address stretch and other friends I have on here all I want thank you very much, then again not that you can really do anything about it.



Hey, hey it's raidenwins, was wondering when you were going to post again....

I'm not even going to bring up JTF anymore, let's just say that all of MKO (including the mods) laughs at that moronic pychopath that plays people like you and Groy and sadly you don't even see the light on MKAC. But hey, I'm not surprised. One day you might disagree with him about something and find yourself banned....I'm sure you'll eventually if not now see thru his BS but Groy...pffttt despite how many people he thinks he has on there, it's peanuts compared to MKO's members. It's not even close. Also, this guy raidenwins also pmed me 176 times spamming my inbox AFTER I left MKAC then was banned, now you can believe what you want. But crow knows, I showed him and told him. So, if you guys don't believe me ask the MKO mods. They'll tell ya what a sick person JTF aka MKAC administrator is.

lies are BS, Groy thinks everything I say is a "lie" hell he probably thinks I'm HB saying I'm MKF in his mind or something..

Dude, who's boasting? Have you READ groy's posts? lol saying he's the best mk player ever, he beats everyone...dude seriously you have to pay a little bit more attention dude. You're a smart guy, you can see this. I'm only saying I use Fujin well, I feel I do. I never said I'm the best ever, bow at my feet like attitude like some of these other guys rant about. Example, one day I said eazy man he's the best player right now beating everyone, Groy said well I've beaten him so....

So, honestly raidenwins if you're going to give unasked for advice, be sure to give it to everyone who boasts about themselves not just one person.

P.S. I don't boast, but if someone is saying MKF sucks or something I will say something. You see raidenwins I used to just sit back take bashing, until one day I woke up and found out that you have to stand up for yourself. So, I really don't care honestly if it's against 1 person or 10. One thing this thread has brought out are the people who don't like me. Ok, 5 or 6 people. Noticed the rest of MKO players aren't joining in on the "MKF bashing"

I'm on very good terms with a lot of players on here except for the people in this thread so I'm not losing any sleep man.

The grudge is from when I beat you to 7, you won 2 in a row and quit when you were up 8-7.

You said a bunch of things for excuses but in the long run you know that doing that is unacceptable.

Again here you are bragging about yourself.
"I'm well liked" "People pm me about Fujin"

A little modesty wouldn't hurt.

Not bragging ^^ just stating the truth. I have LOTS of friends on this site, are you aware that this forum is known as the "netherealm" of MKO? You know what that means right? lol the mods dread coming here just in case you haven't noticed lol. Perfect example, this thread(sadly) is the hottest topic right now. It takes threads that eventually cause flame wars to attract people on here. Sad....

But anyway, that's not bragging. Bragging is saying "I'm the best ever in MK, I own everyone easily" I never said that nor implied it. BTW, for someone lecturing me what about your little post in that ermac92 thread saying " he's better then everyone except me" what is that supposed to mean? That sounds like you're saying you're better then everyone else here since he can beat them and not me. BTW, I played that guy way back and had no problem. He is pretty good though.

BTW, dude you're still beefed about that? lol I thought that was behind us, we discussed that via pms..dude let that shit go already, why are you going to hold a chip on his shoulder after all this time? Then again half of the people in this thread are doing that so......

I am flattered in a way though that all this attention, the time people take just to bash and rip into me.




I'm labeling people, I wasn't aware they made label guns for humans.... I'm honestly wondering why you would think that then again...it's you, you would think that. One of my best friends lives in the S.I. projects, where majority are black, latino and asian. I've hung at his place several times. If I were as you say uneasy around certain people I don't think I'd go to his place. After 9/11 everything else seems like nothing.... You know what's funny I didn't even mention your name yet you TOOK offense to that lol...priceless I'm sure in your mind I'm the "flash" since you're obsessed with the word "running" ohhh wait that's right you think I'm "scorpion" actually. My fault for forgetting. You might beat me by a few in the newer MK's but I assure you, I'll pay you right back in the 2d games UMK3/MKT I assure you. I'd even be up for playing every MK game, MK4 besides the others. I'd like to see how you do in those for someone that thinks he's better then everyone else....

MKF, you're a douchebag. No credibility.

Just give me 5 names.

way over 200 characters. i stopped reading at line two. ive heard that record before, was no reason to keep reading.

Hahaha well liked by who???? Everyone I spoke to on the mic thinks you're a dickhead who talks too much and ducks challenges. I'm not going to bullshit I do boast but I back up whatever I boast about. I also give credit where it is due, and I give props to whoever puts up a good fair fight. Uike you who seems to relate someone's "skill" level to how well you like the person or if that particular person dosen't bad mouth you. (Ex: your laughable top 5 list where you orignally but yourself within the ranks).

Wait I thought the limit was 500 characters, lol.

I only asked for 5 names from MKF. I'm really interested to see who these people are because I'm willing to bet their credibility isn't much greater than MKF's himself.

I'll give you my list, though...

- KON
- Pig of the Hut
- MeSoFly
- G_Roy
- OneATARI2600
- RaidenWins
- Doohoo
- RedSaleen

That's who can vouch for MKF's "Undeserved Reputation". And this is just who I can think of off the top of my head. I'm still waiting for 5 names. I'll give those 5 priority over 12 if he'll muster them up.

Well, typical Groy pointless post. Once again just in case you haven't realized Groy, ALL of MKO doesn't revolve around this particular forum which has what? 20 people posting IF that much max? lol...think before you post. If you posted "MKF is a horrible person" in the general, you'll get more ripped for it then Barroid Bonds on steroids.

I contribute to MKO in a lot of other ways, and a hell of a lot more then you do have lots of friends I've made on here from the other forums. Again, you only post on here when someone has a problem with me, you rip MKO mods, you bitch about this site when you don't get your way...what a joke.

To chaos, wow that's your argument? Taking after Maverick now are we?Calling me a douchebag? hmmm. Apparently that's no argument just a dumb, pointless flame...

You want me to name people on here that don't hate me like you guys do? Ok...

people on here I'm cool with or have no problem what so ever with:

Alex
malone
eazytobeat
killer b
krazy-cool dude from PS2
pighut
wu
stretch
b n r
pumkin king
trax
gerchap


shall I go on? People above I'm cool with or have lots of respect for ^.

people that don't like me:

groy
red
chaos
atari
mav(banned...yet again)


people that I can go either way with but really don't have a huge beef with:

raidenwins
mesofly

So, you see chaos I really don't give a shit if a couple of guys on here hate me. In fact I'm starting to get used to it and laugh about it.



Let me ask you this, what exactly do you hope to accomplish by flaming me? I can say this, you'll get banned eventually you keep that up. Try to learn from mavericks posts. Later

MKF, I didn't ask who LIKES you and who doesn't. In fact, you didn't even answer THAT question. You just told me who YOU like and dislike. Anyway, I asked who can vouch for you against your "undeserved reputation". I mean, if it's such a "BS Reputation" and so many people like you; you should have no problem giving me 5 names of people who will straight up say, "MKF does not duck, dodge, hide, stretch the truth, or avoid challenges."

And regarding your list (which you made for a completely different reason than asked).....

**People MKF Likes***

"Alexei09" - Where is he? He isn't around right now. Not since before I came back to Xbox. That's at least 2-1/2 months. How does he vouche for you? How many times have you played him, by the way?

"MasterMalone" - This I'll give you. Malone probably does like you.

"Eazytobeat" - Really? Because you played him twice in a week at one point? Maybe I'm wrong on this, but what do you two do before or since then? Eazy's a very nice guy, but I don't expect he'll come to the boards and utter the phrase I wrote above.

"Killer B" - ??? He doesn't exist in MKA? How does he vouch for you?

"Bone" - Bone's cool with most. BUT, he's a PS2 guy and only been on Xbox for 2 months. Now he's back on PS2. He even made a thread saying goodbye to Xbox with several notes about different players. What did he say about MKF? "Never played him". How does that vouch for you?

"Pig of the Hut" - WTF? Explain this one. I even put his name on MY list because I've seen the things written between you two guys. I can almost guarantee Pig will not vouch for you.

"Wu" - He hasn't been around in forever. He's kind of in the same boat as Alexei09 for the purposes of this discussion.

"PumkinKing" - First off, Pumkin is a sweetheart. Not to be taken the wrong way, he's just a nice kid. I always liked Pumkin for this. Second, (and this is absolutely no offense to you, Pumkin) he's not really a high-level player. I'm sure you can handle Pumkin fairly easy, MKF. That's why it doesn't surprise me that you have/will play him rather frequently compared to others.

"Trax" - I won't speak for him. I know you two are cool and I honestly don't know if you two have played. However, I've never even played Trax so I think it's almost a moot point for his input.

"Gerchap" - Call me crazy, but I don't see this happening. Again (like Eazy), maybe I'm wrong. But I can't see Gerchap coming to the boards and uttering the phrase I wrote above.

"BNR" and "Stretch" - I could actually lump these two with Killer B. They just don't and never really have played MKA. So how does that vouch for you?

**People MKF is OK With**

"MEsoFLY" and "RaidenWins" - Ok, again I guess I'm reading something different than you. I've seen little, if anything, that would lead me to believe that you are "OK" with either one of them. Even if you are ok with them, I will guarantee neither will vouch for you.

**People MKF Doesn't Like**

..... eh...... everyone knows already.



So there's YOUR lists, MKF. I think they're rather inaccurate EVEN THOUGH they're lists about the wrong thing, anyway. It's easy for you to try to say who YOU like or respect. Do what I asked and tell us WHO likes or respects you.

MKLegend get a grip on yourself please.


Its not that serious. Really.


I think Chaos is asking what players respect you. Not friendly players or internet friends. And of the players you mentioned most dont play MKA regularly or you havent played them when they did so how can they respect you as a warrior. *edit*.....Chaos took the words right out of mouth......


I care less what you do man how can I hate you?

I was pointing out a memorable moment. Its funny to me. Youre funny to me, lets get some games tonight around 12:00? Thats good?

I want to test your "Fujin" and Ermac, since he is so good and can beat mid tier Bo.

You ready for Kai?

I am beefed because you LIE!

What you did to me is just a good example of your personality.

I've said before MKF I do not hate you, I just hate the fact you have to lie about every little thing all the time. I would respect you more if you said "I'm scared to get my ass beat that's why I refuse to play". But yet you make excuse after excuse and tell lie after lie that's what annoys me about you MKF. Eazytobeat and Alexei are nice guys but they know what's up I've seen their disbelief about you in several posts they made but yet they won't tell you about yourself that's why you put them on your like list (like I give a shit whether you like me or not) but you are the only person in this entire community (both PS2 and X-box) outside of the rankwhoring server trash that acts the way you do.

im liked by chaos haha this has turned into a giant essay driven war i do not wish to read between everyone if someone doesnt mind breaking down this more for me in a pm or something be more than free too

Chaos, my question for you is why does this matter so much to you if you don't mind me asking? I did answer your question, those players respect me in MK in general or I'm friends of them where they've seen me play MKs in general NOT just MKA.

Personally, I don't like judging people that's why I don't like people judging me on a mere video game...of all things..none of us are getting paid or anything. It's not like we HAVE a deadline and I'm not meeting my quotta. Then I could see people bitching or complaining but come on...

I admit as a huge MK fan I used to (at first) take this shit wayyy too seriously online early on in MKD, but then realized it's just a game. I'm not a cheater, don't pull and claim to be good for doing stuff like that so if someone has a problem with me. whatever...their problem.

I know you post a lot now and such but there's a lot of players that I'm friends with on here that simply aren't here anymore. lastnite, killer b, alex, malone etc to name a few. Guys way before your time on here that were fun, good and respectable players that were cool.

I chatted with those guys all the time on MKD, when I had a good mic. The mic now is busted beyond repair and I still have xbox one so...tough luck finding a good one for xbox one.

But anyway, back on the topic.

Guys, listen I don't want to fight with anyone. If you hate me or have a problem with me, whatever. I have a lot more important things right now going on then to worry about guys on an MK board.

In a month or so UMK3 is out for the DS, MKA will most likely be near to hardly played by me once that game comes out so my time will be like not at all on live not until MK8 or I get a 360.

Atari and Chaos, honestly I don't care about "respect" in a game like this as much as a game like UMK3 or MKD where those games actually had a lot of players. This game to a lot of people is known as a joke, therefore the general level of respect is only so high....is it fun? Yeah, I like it but the best MK? Ummm kinda not.



Just think about it, how many players still play MKA now? Like 8(if that much) from here max? Chaos, Groy, Red(here and there), eazy, mesofly, atari every day, every night? Krazy just turned resigned on xbox, not ps 2. Gerchap shows up here and there, not as much as he was on MKD. You guys see the trend?

Now I haven't been on much but obviously you guys have been so tell me honestly, just asking a simple question no attitude or anything.

Are there minimum of 10 players well known from on here that still play this game right now? Honestly?

Alex and malone are gone, might play once in a blue. killer b and lastnite are gone, Raidenwins plays MKD, he hates MKA, doohoo pops up here and there but isn't crazy about MKA from what I read of his posts. Wu plays here and there, haven't seen much of him until of late.

There isn't even 10 that I can think of off my head that still play this game that are from MKO xbox live.