they are the same dude, dude. if i had a pic i would post but yeah, they renamed skab, havik.

^ He's right except they didnt change skab's name to Havik, his name was never officially skab.

kool, just like blaze and torch?

whatever, can someone host a pic?

I dont have a pic, but if you look at the sticky thread about the official characters then click on the alternate costume link of there it should give you a picture of Havik.

I upped the costume thread for you, Sektile... Youc can see Havik pics now ;)

kool thanks guys

holy crap he looks nothing like the pic i saw, he actually looks good, thank god.

cool

and as for ashrah, I used to think she looked like crap but her alternate is actuaLLY OK. I can't wait for this game to come out, kool.

and ill check on that thread before doing this next time thanks.