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posted08/04/2004 01:53 PM (UTC)by
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Ninja Arts made a thread where he had an idea of Reptile being the next sub boss. I’m thinking that that idea could very well be reality.

I have been told by my own source and know that several others have been told that Reptile will not be the Dragon King. Judging by the pics of the Dragon King, it looks evident enough that this is the case. My theory is related to the bio for Reptile I made awhile back.

The following is an extract from that bio:

Reptile:

As the Dragon King was reborn, Reptile had passed out due to the sheer pain he had felt. Only part of his reptilian life force was needed to restore the Dragon King. His body was left severely wounded and weakened. Upon awakening, Reptile laid eyes on the great king. Still seeking a master, Reptile pledged allegiance. For his loyalty, the Dragon King healed Reptiles wounds and restored his human shape

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The above probably did happen. That beam of light that pierced Reptile would have been very powerful. My theory is that the beam transferred power into Reptiles body. I know many have assumed that it might be some of the Dragon Kings power, but I do not believe that to be the case. The Dragon Kings essence and power are the contents of the egg and would be stored within his physical form. Imagine it as the yolk of a real egg, this energy wouldn’t be released by breaking the egg. It would all stay together.

The power I believe Reptile had transferred to him was the magic which was used to seal the egg. We were told that some people grouped together and used powerful magic to seal the egg. My belief is that the magic used was stored within the egg shell, but the magic has slowly been deteriorating over the many years that have passed. They said the priests looking after the egg were incubating it and Blaze was protecting it. I believe the priests were using their own magic to break the spells on the egg and over the years this caused the deterioration. Reptile would now have some of this fading power within his body.

If so, his abilities will probably be enhanced and he’ll have an increase in strength. This would allow Ninja Arts idea to become reality - A hyper Reptile with super strength and abilities. Remember the increased speed that the MK2 hidden characters had? He could have that and a few other unique traits to make him truly evil and powerful. Of course, the Dragon King will be so much more powerful.

This having been said, I know many would probably prefer a new sub boss. But what’s stopping them from having more than one sub boss in the game? And then of course, we can unlock him to use. Preferably without his sub boss traits.

Your thoughts?
Nice theory, I didn’t think Reptile was the Dragon King anyway. He would be extremely powerful now and would feature a new insane look. I think he would make a good sub-boss this way and a loyal guardian for the King
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 •08/01/2004 03:46 PM (UTC) •
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A changed and Enhanced Reptile would be a perfect sub-boss! I myself don't believe that Reptile is the Dragon King. Besides, I like Reptile, and didn't like the idea that the end of his story in DA, that he was the Dragon King..or at least that was implied. As badass as the Dragon King seems..I wouldn't want to sacrifice reptile to have him. Great thread Ty. I wonder what some of his new powers could be..other then enhanced strengh and speed I mean. He needs to have his old ones..and some brand new awesome ones.
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 •08/01/2004 03:49 PM (UTC) •
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It's interesting and it makes more sense that Reptile isn't The Dragon King. It also bring up questions of how The Dragon Kind was defeated and the circumstances regarding his resurrection.

But anyhoo, the theory is very plausable, but the event could have very well killed Reptile as well.

If he were to have survived, the sub-boss theory would be a logical story device. However, of course Reptile has an agenda of returning to his realm and his race. Knowing of how many times he was mislead by Shang Tsung and Shao Khan, I feel that he might not be inclined to once again fall into the cycle of being a flunky for yet another master.


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•08/01/2004 04:28 PM (UTC) •
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IcedOutLinKueiWarrior Wrote:
Nice theory, I didn’t think Reptile was the Dragon King anyway. He would be extremely powerful now and would feature a new insane look. I think he would make a good sub-boss this way and a loyal guardian for the King


His look is one thing I’m looking forward to. I’ve loved all of Reptiles looks. Maybe the magic will have twisted and transformed hi body somehow. He’ll probably be a lot more muscular and lizard like. And as you said, he would make a great sub boss and guardian for the Dragon King with his new power and body.

TomTaz Wrote:
A changed and Enhanced Reptile would be a perfect sub-boss! I myself don't believe that Reptile is the Dragon King. Besides, I like Reptile, and didn't like the idea that the end of his story in DA, that he was the Dragon King..or at least that was implied. As badass as the Dragon King seems..I wouldn't want to sacrifice reptile to have him. Great thread Ty. I wonder what some of his new powers could be..other then enhanced strengh and speed I mean. He needs to have his old ones..and some brand new awesome ones.


I too wouldn’t want Reptile as the Dragon King. He is too good of a character for that to happen.

Given the magic that Reptile would be absorbing, he could have some new magic attacks or some new enhanced attacks that his new body allows him to perform. It’d be cool if he could leap around the walls of the arena and jump off them to attack. It would make him incredibly dangerous.

Thanks for the replies guys.
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 •08/01/2004 05:23 PM (UTC) •
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If he's playable, like Tsung and Chi were in DA, I hope he gets the forceball move back.
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 •08/01/2004 05:28 PM (UTC) •
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Great thread Tgrant!
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 •08/01/2004 05:37 PM (UTC) •
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Even though it’s a nice theory, and well developed as well, I have to say that Reptile is in fact the Dragon King.

I cant really explain it but just think about Reptile being the NEW Dragon King, not the old one, but a new reincarnation of power and evil.

You T, know what I mean.
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•08/01/2004 05:41 PM (UTC) •
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It's interesting and it makes more sense that Reptile isn't The Dragon King. It also bring up questions of how The Dragon Kind was defeated and the circumstances regarding his resurrection.

But anyhoo, the theory is very plausable, but the event could have very well killed Reptile as well.

If he were to have survived, the sub-boss theory would be a logical story device. However, of course Reptile has an agenda of returning to his realm and his race. Knowing of how many times he was mislead by Shang Tsung and Shao Khan, I feel that he might not be inclined to once again fall into the cycle of being a flunky for yet another master.


GD


Actually, following the MKDA story, Reptile is more concerned with having a master. He's basically a lost puppet running here and there looking for someone to serve. The Dragoon King will be a good master for him, so if this did happen, he'd be more than happy to serve him. His end agenda was to have his home realm restored, but I'm not sure if Reptile still wants that anymore.
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 •08/01/2004 05:42 PM (UTC) •
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Ha ha ha, you're a fool. You are all gonna see the truth when MKD comes out.
queve Wrote:
Even though it’s a nice theory, and well developed as well, I have to say that Reptile is in fact the Dragon King.

I cant really explain it but just think about Reptile being the NEW Dragon King, not the old one, but a new reincarnation of power and evil.

You T, know what I mean.

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 •08/01/2004 05:45 PM (UTC) •
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well what i think is that is is still undetrimined to what happened to reptiles body after the beam hit him. the only evidence that the dragon king took over reptile's body and overloaded it with his power to contort it into him own body. is that the dragon king has reptile's green scale like skin. that is proof show far that the dragon may of stole reptile's body, but that does not exclude Tgrant's idea. what if retile was just stripped of all his reptilian nature and is now human like in the past.
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 •08/01/2004 05:48 PM (UTC) •
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i think raiden is the sub boss in this game
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 •08/01/2004 06:21 PM (UTC) •
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There are STRONG rumors circulationg that the DK is NOT reptile, however, how Reptile's ending described, his body did twist and transform. SO I guess Reptile becomes the 1st minion of the DK, and has a feral form, and he becomes Sub-Boss
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•08/01/2004 07:18 PM (UTC) •
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queve Wrote:
Even though it’s a nice theory, and well developed as well, I have to say that Reptile is in fact the Dragon King.

I cant really explain it but just think about Reptile being the NEW Dragon King, not the old one, but a new reincarnation of power and evil.

You T, know what I mean.


Reptile isn't the Dragon King.

Why they would want to change Reptile and turn him into the Dragon King is beyond me. the thing is, Reptile is a great chaarcter and to see him become the Dragon King would be a loss to MK.

And the Dragon King himself has always been his own person. He can still is and can remain his own person. He doesn't need to reside in the body of someone else.
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 •08/01/2004 07:30 PM (UTC) •
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DMitch Wrote:
Ha ha ha, you're a fool. You are all gonna see the truth when MKD comes out.
queve Wrote:
Even though it’s a nice theory, and well developed as well, I have to say that Reptile is in fact the Dragon King.

I cant really explain it but just think about Reptile being the NEW Dragon King, not the old one, but a new reincarnation of power and evil.

You T, know what I mean.


Dont need to. I already know it.
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 •08/01/2004 07:43 PM (UTC) •
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tgrant Wrote:
Reptile isn't the Dragon King.

Why they would want to change Reptile and turn him into the Dragon King is beyond me. the thing is, Reptile is a great chaarcter and to see him become the Dragon King would be a loss to MK.

And the Dragon King himself has always been his own person. He can still is and can remain his own person. He doesn't need to reside in the body of someone else.



Why would they have killed Liu Kang in DA? Liu Kang was the most faved character in MK, he was the champion, and Shang Tsung killed him. BIG story changes can happen in MK, and I agree with queve. I too think the Dragon King is Reptile. But if he isn't, I don't care, because MK:D is still going to kick ass!
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 •08/01/2004 07:46 PM (UTC) •
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But I just thought of something else. What if you fight Reptile, you beat him, then he gets REALLY mad and turns into the Dragon King at his own will? Don't know, just an idea.
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•08/01/2004 07:54 PM (UTC) •
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Hey tg, you're more than right in your theory, my sources have told me to expect a big surprise in between the relationship of the DK and Reptile, this theory of yours is very accurate man, very well done grin
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 •08/01/2004 10:11 PM (UTC) •
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Ok well Reptile never was the DK and never will be. But I think the DK needed to use his body so he could transform into himself. I remember in the Lava shrine you could see in the egg that it was a tiny dragon which it siad through out the game that there was a tiny dragon in the egg. THe dragon stretched and the egg cracked. Now tgrant you have a good theory but it's not true sorry.

You said that you thought that power was shot in reptile this transformed him. But it even said that reptiles body was twisted and transformed. I think in order for DK to return to his normal self he used reps. body to do so. Now I believe that this killed reptile but maybe a new or different species will help the DK.

I highly doubt reptiles super bad and evil and the sub boss.
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 •08/01/2004 10:59 PM (UTC) •
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I don't think that the Dragon King is Reptile either. I like your idea of having the 'magic' that was used to hold the egg together tranferred into him alot better. I never have liked the idea of Reptile transforming into the Dragon King.

However, I would like to see Reptile as some form of a sub-boss. The idea of having him as part of the Dragon King's army is great. This idea opens up so many possibilites for him and a great new storyline. I wouldn't want to trade in the character of Reptile for the Dragon King. They should have them two seperate entities.
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•08/02/2004 12:54 AM (UTC) •
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Nice theory... but what im thinking is that when the beam hit reptile it kind of stole his reptilian "essence"... now all he has left is a human like form... so we will have reptile partially...but he would technically not be a reptilian any more.. When the beam hit reptile the dragon king stole this from him...
instead of reptile being a servant to the dragon king, he could actually be an enemy of his, maybe deceiving the dragon king in thinking that has on his side then trouncing on him as soon as he gets the chance too...
Also a lot of fans want the ninja form of reptile back any way...
also i have a strong feeling that the sub-boss will be a female!!
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 •08/02/2004 02:41 AM (UTC) •
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I find this completely ironic, when MKDA was over many poeple though 100% that Reptile was the DK there were flame wars galore now with the approaching release of MKD there's been an awful lot of speculation as to whether or not these beliefs are real. I personally believe that T is right maybe not fully (with the sealed magic part) but I do believe that reptile is the new subboss and is very different then we've seen him before, more dragon like I believe.
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 •08/02/2004 03:03 AM (UTC) •
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I like the theory. I think it could be possible and if so, that Reptile would be playable just without the super abilities.

That would explain why 2 sources have said Reptile is among the playable characters.
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 •08/02/2004 05:07 AM (UTC) •
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Allright, When i had first posted this theory, I had only expected open ideas, and now it's even more welcome. So below, I'll be stating points that will probably prove Reptile's not being the Dragon King.

First I won't even state that thier appearence difference, because Reptile's ending stated otherwise, but Reptile's ending said nothing of him BECOMMING the Dragon King. If you can, Prove it.
Second Reptile's basic use was a body guard, a secret, a killer to all whom oppose his master. This role is perfect for Reptile. The Dragon King will finally fulfill Reptile's wishes and the Reptile will greatly aid the Dragon King in his new Suited Beast like Form. The Reptile we all know as a ninja, is gone. Although possible as a secret character, He's gone. It says so in his ending.
Third This is for everyone who's so God damned sure of themselves about Reptile being the Dragon King. In an Interview logged on here someplace, a Question was asked if Reptile becomes the Dragon King, and the reply from the Midway Official was 'Something happens to him..." But that was all that was stated. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Fourth Reptile was confirmed by about 4 magazines allready. Every other character confirmed by a magazine has been shown so far, except for the exception of Sektor. Please, don't kid yourselves.

That's all I have so far.

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 •08/02/2004 05:23 AM (UTC) •
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Heres another point to add to your theory....Reptile has pretty much served every boss throughout the mk series.

MK1=Shang Stung
MK2=Shang Stung
MK3=Shao Kahn
UMK3=Shao Kahn
MK4=Shinnok
MK5=Shao Kahn/Nitara
MKD=DK??
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