I like this...i like this a lot.

For a second I thought you were going to say that Scorpion was actually Thomas Wayne out for revenge.

I was about to say "That's crazy...crazy AWESOME!"

i thought that at first too lol

its a interesting idea for story mode, would be good if that happened :)

that isn't a bad idea...that could actually work.

They could pull a Batman Forever.

Scorpion: YOUR FAMILY WASN'T MURDERED BY A PSYCHOPATH!

Batman: Yes they were! We're the same, Scorpion.

Scorpion: GET OUT OF HERE!

lol, something like that.

Seriously, there is an honorable warrior within Scorpion. If anyone can find it, it's the Dark Knight.

It was for this similar loss of family that I believed that Scorpion would have made a better counter part/match up to Batman than Sub-Zero

I agree with you that the Story mode is what really has me pumped for this game.

I like your ideas, and yes Scorp and Batsy have some similarities. So do Scorp and Supes though. Both of their pasts have been completely obliterated (Krypton was destroyed with his family, and Scorpion's clan and family were completely destroyed). Both also find themselves in an uncomfortable role as "savior" (Supes is the protector of Earth and Scorpion is the Champion of the Elder Gods). So there are similarities if you look for them.

they should have put Noob Saibot against Batman. Noob killed Scorpion when he was still Sub-Zero if I remember correctly. Dad killer vs guy who's parents were killed would make more sense than..brother of dad killer vs guy who's parents were killed.

Use his detective skills? What, sneak into the Netherealm after hours to break into Shinnok's files? Ask around at the local ninja watering hole?

I definitely prefer to think of Scorpion as a motivated character, but it's not like Batman instantly connects with every yahoo affected by familial tragedy - even the ones who aren't remorseless killers from Hell.
I prefer my Batman pretty unforgiving in that respect. They might arrive at a common goal, but I really don't want to see Scorpion going for rides in the Batmobile...

I'd like to expect something more than petty squabbles, cardboard team-ups, and Scorpion as a pawn. That might be a little unrealistic - particularly if there are individual battles to be fought - but I'd hope Palmiotti and Gray can influence a more sequential plot. Something that's less about throwing a character from each franchise against each other; and more about everyone's individual motivations which, presumably, would grow out of preventing or provoking a merger of the two universes.

A plot; instead of group therapy for Scorpion and Batman.
I think it'll be important for the MK characters to step up in that regard. Focused motivation would be nice instead of random onsets of evil (and giant floating skulls)...

Batman could probably actually do that. Shinnok doesn't even have files and he'll still find a way to read them. He's Batman.

No.

Scorpion died BEFORE his family was eradicated. Quan Chi's scheme took place during MK1-MK3, MK4 (as his ending mention never being able to see his family again. In the semantic this was referring to disability from his curse, thus excluding the meaningful possibility of them being dead yet).

Also he had no knowledge of his family being terminated in MK2. Thus AT LEAST (see: fucked up retcon) sparing younger Subs life. His primary angle is to avenge himself. Family is introduced in MK4.

Note that Quan Chi only introduced the bones of Takeda in Mythologies. And it is doubtful that an entire clan was wiped away in one day, move or standard MK spell.

Really? I was under the impression that the reason Scorpion was even fighting the original Sub-Zero, before subsequently being killed, was because he was looking for revenge.

The original story had it alluded that Scorpion was an average guy who had been assasinated by Sub-Zero. He returned as Scorpion, mocking the Lin Kuei by wearing a yellow uniform as opposed to the clan's traditional blue (retconned that notion with Sextor, Cyrax & Smoke)

I think it was Mythologies that started the notion that Scorpion was part of a clan of true, Japanese Ninja. It was in this game that Scorp and Sub met, both fighting to get the map leading to Shinnok's amulette, but Sub-Zero got the upper hand...He had a choice to finish him or not...You know how the rest plays out.

I guess I misremembered the plot then. I remembered it as Quan Chi setting Scorpion up to think it was Sub-Zero who killed his family and when Scorp went for revenge...well...yeah.

Actually, it happened during MKM -- prior to the first MK game.

The exact timeline of when his family died seems to be irrelevant -- Scorpion kills Sub-Zero during the first MK, his "curse" isn't ended and he mistakes the brother for the original.
He's still hanging around because Quan Chi was a loose end, and that's why he's still pursuing him post-MK4.

The above is the actual dialogue from the cutscene in MK Mythologies where Sub-Zero meets Scorpion in the Netherealm prison, near the end of the game. (The first level of the game is where Sub-Zero kills him.)

MK Mythologies takes place 2 years before MK1 and 10 years before MK4, according to Scorpion's MK1 bio and the very long, very detailed backstory information Tobias wrote that was in the instruction manual and on the game's official website. In fact, Chrome...I don't know how you could come to believe MKM takes place any time after MK1, because MKM's Sub-Zero would be dead!

Anyway, the point is, in current continuity, Scorpion did in fact know all along that his clan was dead and that it would be part of his vengeance quest.

I never really thought about that hmmm we'll have to see i guess

I applaud the inconsistency in MK.

It's not a contradiction, so much as expanding on things that were only vague before, or completely unknown. So while Scorpion's MK1 ending implied that his family was alive, we all know that in the earlier games, the endings were never 100% canon.

In reference to Scorpion's past? I don't know if I'd call that inconsistent...
The new information might not have been revealed until MKM/MK4, but the necessity of it is set up a year after the original game in MKII.

- Cursed Scorpion enters the first MK having been killed by Sub-Zero.
- Kills Sub-Zero but finds he isn't released from curse.
- Comes back in MKII to kill Sub-Zero again, but realises it's brother and he did actually kill the right one.
- Fucks around in and out of Hell for a while during bullshit mergers.
- Thinks he DOES have to kill Sub-Zero. Discovers Quan Chi was responsible.
- Splits his time between hunting Quan Chi and helping the Elder Gods.
- Zombie Clan Giant Floating Skulls Armageddon Evil Lolz Wtf????

As much as it was a sequence of retcons of basic information, it's pretty cleanly incrementalized. Each step revealed a new piece of the story... Except Trilogy and Armageddon, which were retarded...

It should also be noted that, if Scorpion's family were still alive, he'd have no reason to exist anymore after MK1. He got his revenge for his OWN life, so why isn't he at rest?
They HAD to add more to it or else he wouldn't have a reason to return ever again.

I said that more than once...

We don't know...concerning your last point, Quan-Chi is more powerful then Shang so I'd say it's very possible that he could have wiped the whole clan easily if you think about it. And when did they ever confirm the bones were "Takedas" I don't remember that...