I really enjoyed Deathscepters storylines. They would make sense. Good work. I also don't 1st Sub-Zero shouldn't come back. Having two SZs would be completely confusing.

evil subzero
good subzero and neutral scorpion...god that would be awesome.

one way it could happen is to have quan bring him back to protect him. whilst evil subzero protects him, scorpion begins his feud again with him, which will cause the younger one to be confused, he'd want help his brother and stop scorpion.
i like it

Thanks ImmortalSpectre. Well The Classic Sub Zero dont have the Title of Sub Zero. Maybe he should go with his real name and Let Sub Zero the younger be THE TRUE Sub Zero.

A Well storyline will always tie the loose ends up.

Yes, the original Sub-Zero really should return. I really liked him in MK1 and I liked the younger Sub-Zero until he turned good. I really do not understand how some of you are saying Classic Sub-Zero is not evil. He was an assassin and he defeated gods. The Sub-Zero we have now is only powerful because of the amulant. The elder Sub-Zero was powerful because of skill. There's a big difference there. I think Frost should definitely be killed, and her being revealed as Sub-Zero's sister trying to steal the amulant.


Here's somewhat of a story:

I'm getting kind of tired of the current Sub-Zero, so the elder Sub should kill him and trick Raiden into thinking he's the younger Sub-Zero, and then turning on the Lin Kuei and Raiden when in battle. Someone from the Special Forces would be killed, and someone else would also be killed. This would add a new twist into the game, plus characters like Sektor and Smoke could reside with the elder Sub-Zero and reform the Lin Kuei as evil again.

well Classic Sub-Zero is neutral by trades. He is asassin and all asassin are neutral. One day be working for the bad guys then work for the good guys the next day.

Classic Sub Zero was paid by Quan Chi to get the map and the amulet. Then Rayden told Subby the truth about Quan Chi and the amulet. This knowledge angried the Classic SubZero. So he argeed to work for Rayden to saved the world.

That is in MKM.

Is it nessecary?

DeathScepter Wrote: well Classic Sub-Zero is neutral by trades. He is asassin and all asassin are neutral. One day be working for the bad guys then work for the good guys the next day. Classic Sub Zero was paid by Quan Chi to get the map and the amulet. Then Rayden told Subby the truth about Quan Chi and the amulet. This knowledge angried the Classic SubZero. So he argeed to work for Rayden to saved the world. That is in MKM.

Like a double spy, right

Kinda Ninjas by their nature will work with anyone that will benfiet them.
Lin Kuei are the Chinese Ninjas. Japanese Ninjas are influence by the Lin Kuei and the Lin Kuei are influence by the Japanese Ninjas.

The Nature of the Asassin is similar because they will work for anyone. Classic Sub Zero does have a conscience that was tainted by the Lin Kuei's neutral nature.

Lin Kuei in the games were the good guys because they were enemies with Shang Tsung and his allies.

By the end, Lin Kuei was accepting any offers to knock off any wirazds of kind. The Grandmaster said that we the Lin Kuei cant afford to trust any wirazds. That is why Shang Tsung was select at the end of MKM.

Classic Sub Zero is both loyal to his clan but his nature is of a hero.

No, I do not think that the original Sub-Zero should return in any physical way. I guess he could possibly be a secret character, but that would be rather pointless as he would have the same powers as his younger brother. For anyone who loves in depth storylines I believe there could be more references to him, mabye in sceen between the younger Sub-Zero and Sereena. They could have done somthing like this in the past, like in MK4, have a seen between Shinnok and Sub (not to say that Sub-Zero won that tounament because he would probably have lost in such an ecounter).

I personally think the old subzero is better than the new one. I dont know, he was the subzero that started it all. He is the classic subzero. Being replaced with the new one is just a bad idea. Its just like replacing the old scorpion with the new one. I dont know thats just my idea though. And people should concentrate less on the storyline and more on how cool the game would be with the older subzero.

DeathScepter Wrote: Kinda Ninjas by their nature will work with anyone that will benfiet them. Lin Kuei are the Chinese Ninjas. Japanese Ninjas are influence by the Lin Kuei and the Lin Kuei are influence by the Japanese Ninjas. The Nature of the Asassin is similar because they will work for anyone. Classic Sub Zero does have a conscience that was tainted by the Lin Kuei's neutral nature. Lin Kuei in the games were the good guys because they were enemies with Shang Tsung and his allies. By the end, Lin Kuei was accepting any offers to knock off any wirazds of kind. The Grandmaster said that we the Lin Kuei cant afford to trust any wirazds. That is why Shang Tsung was select at the end of MKM. Classic Sub Zero is both loyal to his clan but his nature is of a hero.

I guess you could put it that way. He is very much like an unlikely hero who will most likely never return. And as for the real name thing, the real names of the Sub-Zero brothers have been long forgotten.

I was thinking that Classic Sub Zero should go with his real name and be the regular character.

and the younger one is hidden.

I think that the old Sub-Zero should stay dead and I think that his brother should die aswell, they both spoil the game, they should have a new ninja like Reptile in his old suit.

It could only matter for the sake of the story line. The Sub-Zero's all look alike, blue ninja costume. Except the unmasked sub. All the Sub-Zero's belong to the Lin Kuei (good intentions or bad) so they are bound to look the same. So story wise there could be a difference. In that case it would be interesting to see the return of the original Sub. But there is a new Sub now also with some potential and there is no room for 2 Sub-Zero's so i think the original Sub-Zero won't return

Subzero does not spoil the game. he is in more MK games than any other character. Neither should be dead.

Both are great.

I agree that there doesn’t need to be two subzeros in the same game but since they’re essentially the same playable character with a different story line perhaps something can be worked out with the story to enable the older one to take the younger ones place in the next game (not as in tricking everyone into thinking he’s the younger one type of way).

Here’s a possibility that could work:

The younger Subzero has managed to fully harness the power of the amulet and has become god like in power, in doing so Raiden has entrusted him with important missions of his own. When the events that take place in MK6 occur Raiden asks Sub to go off on a vital separate mission. Sub sends Frost to aid Raiden and represent the Lin Kuei in his place. Unbeknown to him Classic Sub has been working as a freelance assassin and is contracted by a character allied to the side of evil to assist them with their quest. Once the battle/ Tournament is under way Frost discovers who he is an tries to get him to ally with the side of good and rejoin the Lin Kuei, around the same time Scorpion also becomes aware of his presence and is still angered by their past and resumes his quest to destroy him.

That way although he has his the original ice powers (and is still essentially the same character but with a different story line) he could have a 100% new look, enabling the designers to give him a super sweet overhaul which would be ok because he’s been out of the MK scene for a while and he could always have his classic look as his alternate costume, thus getting rid of the 'old man' look.

With the younger sub ascending to god like status in power perhaps it’s a nice way to end this chapter of the younger ones story and bring back the older one who is still greatly troubled and has possibly a darker path to walk while not technically being evil.

What do you think??

SolidSnake18 Wrote: We have a superior Subzero right now. There would be no point to bringing back the original, Scorpion killed him.

You forgot one small thing - Sub-Zero Original has returned in Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. He's alive, that's why he have all rights to come to MK6.

i think they should make him come back and make him seek revenge against scorpion and battle his younger brother

that sounds good. but when you think about it the original sub is older than the younger one. dont you think he'd be alittle "off" considering his age? plus that whole sub issue in umk3 couldnt be the original sub (at least to me considering the fact that the sub in that game had the moves of the mk2 sub, who is in fact the sub we know now) i think the mk team shouldve done something different moves wise to that umk3 sub and had a better story if they really intended for him to be the original sub-zero. thats just my opinion.

I don't think that the old Sub-Zero should return. He's the only actual character who's died and stayed dead for more than one MK. Plus, the other one is there already, and there are already two characters with freezing abilities. Frost and Sub-Zero are enough.

Oh yeah, about the older/younger brother thing and the fact that they're the same age, the original Sub-Zero and the new Sub-Zero could be twins; the original could've been born a few minutes earlier than the other one, so they can still have the same age, only one's a few minutes younger. It still works out.

I don't get this whole "The original was SO much better" thing. I mean Subzero didn't really develop any depth until the original was killed and the brother arose. I mean thats when he had to fight the other Lin Kuei and shit. Before that, he was just Scorpions enemy/destined to be killed biotch.

Once again, the new one is far badder mother fucker than the original. Subby 2 has the amulet, the arms, and control over all of the Lin Kuei. He is more powerful than the original Subzero.

If you want to get technical, Sub-Zero in MKM had all the moves of his little brother, so really the younger Sub-Zero learned the moves from his older brother.

inviladnoobwarrior Wrote: that sounds good. but when you think about it the original sub is older than the younger one. dont you think he'd be alittle "off" considering his age? plus that whole sub issue in umk3 couldnt be the original sub (at least to me considering the fact that the sub in that game had the moves of the mk2 sub, who is in fact the sub we know now) i think the mk team shouldve done something different moves wise to that umk3 sub and had a better story if they really intended for him to be the original sub-zero. thats just my opinion.

Well It is the Fact that Classic Subby in Umk3 is the Mk1 Subby. Major hint Classic was used with the masked Ninja Subby in UMK3. Classic is popular and or older that well known.


Classic Subby should used his MKM ice powers.

Here's the deal, everyone just likes seeing Subzero with the cool mask on. Thats the truth for the previous MK's. In DA, you can earn Subzero with the mask on. Thats all that matters.