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DarkKard4
11/03/2006 05:18 AM (UTC)
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I really like Darrius but i dont like Dairou.
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11/03/2006 05:40 AM (UTC)
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Dariou I thought had a lot of un-developed potential. I like his aesthetic part of him but the character aspect of him is extremely under-developed and plain. Darrius, on the other hand, I felt they were really grasping straws when they made, along with Kira and Kobra. I certainly dislike Kobra more than I dislike Darrius, but Darrius I still certainly never play and enjoy killing when playing against.

I do think its a shame that we didn't get to see the Chaos Realm/Order Realm feud developed a bit further, though. I actually enjoyed the concepts for both realms as I am a huge fan of ying and yang (which is really kind of what they were to eachother). While the characters that came out of MKD associated with those realms certainly weren't the most exciting or deep characters, it was at least a nice break from the on-going Outworld vs. Earthrealm ordeal we've been in the middle of since MK1. edit Scratch what I said about Dairou. I'm tired and was confusing Dariou with Hotaru. I couldn't care less about Dariou and he has never appealed to me at all.
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ass_kicker
11/03/2006 10:25 AM (UTC)
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Dairou has a pretty cool appearance IMO, but his story sucks. I never like Darrius.
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ReCeFaJo
11/03/2006 02:24 PM (UTC)
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I think Dairou is an OK character. He needs some improvement, but he has potential.

Darrius seemed out of place in MKD to me. I can't say I like him.

The whole Order and Chaos thing is kind of interesting in my eyes. Though, I think that Dairou, Darrius, Hotaru and Havik need more interaction between themselves.
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11/03/2006 02:28 PM (UTC)
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Some new characters (MKD) or old ones that were new or whatever you want to call them, just don't make it in the MK world. To me Darrius, Dairou, Hotaru, Mokap, Hsu Hao, and Mavado are all horrible fighters.
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11/03/2006 04:44 PM (UTC)
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trynax Wrote:
Some new characters (MKD) or old ones that were new or whatever you want to call them, just don't make it in the MK world. To me Darrius, Dairou, Hotaru, Mokap, Hsu Hao, and Mavado are all horrible fighters.


Horrible characters, or horrible fighters? Because none of the characters you listed are really low tier. Perhaps Dairou, but that's it.

Mavado is one of the best. Mokap's "Jeet Kune Do" is really Jun Fan, which is a great style. Hotaru and Hsu Hao can cause plenty of nightmares. Darrius has a lethal popup with his gauntlets.

On topic, I like the Chaos/Order storyline and the fact that Darrius hired Dairou even though he killed his family is a nice touch.

As for design, well Dariou's is ok as it has a samurai look to it. Not too impressed with Darrius' though. And Dairou should've kept Wing Chun.
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Lysander
11/03/2006 08:58 PM (UTC)
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I think you people are crazy. Darrius is based off someone from Enter the Dragon, one of the greatest chronicles of ass-kicking produced throughout human history. That makes him bad, and it cannot be denied that the 'fro is the source of his powers.

Meanwhile, Jax fights in something he got at Flava-Flav’s garage sale, and nobody says a word.
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Ninja_Mime
11/03/2006 11:12 PM (UTC)
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Lysander Wrote:
I think you people are crazy. Darrius is based off someone from Enter the Dragon, one of the greatest chronicles of ass-kicking produced throughout human history. That makes him bad, and it cannot be denied that the 'fro is the source of his powers.

Meanwhile, Jax fights in something he got at Flava-Flav’s garage sale, and nobody says a word.


Haha, very true.
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FlamingJ
11/03/2006 11:28 PM (UTC)
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Dairou is one of my favorite characters to play as in Armageddon, but his story isn't all that great.
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11/04/2006 12:26 AM (UTC)
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Darrius or Dairou? From the responses I've seen, I don't think anybody likes them. I agree. These two characters are bland, boring, and unoriginal. Oh yes, Kobra as well.


Hah! I was talking about this in the IRC chan a couple of days ago with a few people.

Darrius and Dairou were singled out, but yeah. Kira and Kobra were utter wastes of time, too -- and personally, Ashrah holds no interest for me at all.

Deadly Alliance, and to a lesser extent, Deception, brought our favourite Mortal Kombat characters into the arena and for the first time really made them legitimate contenders. Individual looks (for the most part), interesting fighting styles (to a much lesser extent in Deception) and a presence that said they weren't the dull gimmick characters anymore.

HOWEVER -- Deadly Alliance and Deception also have to be the games that have delivered the worst new characters, also.

I would honestly say Dairou, Kobra and Kira are all duking it out for the title of new Stryker. Stryker actually stepped up and finally got his dues!
Hsu Hao was slightly less disappointing, because he seemed to have a very clean finite lifespan to his very specific purpose and story.
I actually also think Li Mei was incredibly bland, put over Ashrah just barely by story.

As for Darrius... It wasn't until I found his Alternate Costume that I saw potential, and playing him, I actually liked his weapons and initial fighting style.
To me, you've just got to give him more specific, personal reasons for being in Mortal Kombat. The problem I have with the Chaos/Order battle is that for most of them it's a larger struggle.
Now, it would be fair to say Mortal Kombat is a larger struggle for characters like Liu Kang and Kung Lao, but it's still very specific to them. It isn't a war involving hundreds of thousands - it was a war of design to feature only few in very specific circumstances.

I think stripping Darrius of the harsh look, and giving him the fun, colourful alternate would be a great start. Maybe inject some more character into him (I mentioned elsewhere I think he should get Jax' misplaced jive), and get him a more focused goal (I suppose he SEEMS to be after Hotaru...) and you might have yourself a winner, I think.

Oh, and the results are in. For sheer mort factor, I think Kobra gets the coveted Stryker role. He's a knucklehead who doesn't seem to know it -- but the original roughhead - Dairou - will always be #0 in our hearts.
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Lysander
11/04/2006 12:51 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer, you have some interesting points, and I agree with all of them, except Ashrah. Ashrah is interesting, and with Frost makes a grand total of TWO female characters not dressed like total whores, setting a new record for a long-running game series, and ushering in a new golden era of gender relations. Yay.

I'd especially like to comment on your point about the purpose of Mortal Kombat. I think that Orderrealm is trying to conquer Chaosrealm through Mortal Kombat, just like Shao Khan tried to conquer Earthrealm. It’s the only legal way to wage war on another realm, and we know that war exists, since Order already sent troops to Chaos to seize the water supply.
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11/04/2006 01:06 AM (UTC)
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Lysander Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer, you have some interesting points, and I agree with all of them, except Ashrah. Ashrah is interesting, and with Frost makes a grand total of TWO female characters not dressed like total whores, setting a new record for a long-running game series, and ushering in a new golden era of gender relations. Yay.

I'd especially like to comment on your point about the purpose of Mortal Kombat. I think that Orderrealm is trying to conquer Chaosrealm through Mortal Kombat, just like Shao Khan tried to conquer Earthrealm. It’s the only legal way to wage war on another realm, and we know that war exists, since Order already sent troops to Chaos to seize the water supply.


Oh, if I'd remembered Frost, I probably would've added her to the list of dull and uninspired new characters. I think the last thing this franchise needed, particularly as it moves forward and pushes superior creative vision, is another shared idea among characters.
Frost might have been more convincing in an original guise, if she went to 'female Sub-Zero' AFTER joining the Lin Kuei. Otherwise, it just struck me as baseless and annoying.

Good point about the dress sense, though. Hah!

Interesting point raised concerning Orderrealm/Chaos realm.
From what I've seen, I don't think there's really anything to suggest kombat, even if it's a simple and logical enough answer. I think it raises an issue of reevaluating the entire scenario, because they're either completely misproportioned in their Kombat (versus Earth/Edenia/Outworlders) and need their own spotlight -- or, they need to be a more integral part of the overall story.

I like it, becase if multiple merger battles were being integrated into one overall tournament, then you have yourself a much neater story for Armageddon.
I talked about four opposing forces resulting in Armageddon somewhere on the fan sub board (shortly after Deception). That's something I really would have liked to have seen.

But alas, that ship has sailed.
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prodigy004
11/04/2006 01:27 AM (UTC)
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I wouldnt have even cared if they werent included in MKA. Id actually be a little happy if they werent. I think this answers you question.wink
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Lysander
11/04/2006 01:47 AM (UTC)
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Frosty the Snow Bitch may not have much story of her own, but I think that's just fine. She isn't there to have a story of her own, she's there to be a supporting character for Sub-Zero, and to shed light on him and his heritage, give him a new foil, and act as a repository for all his old, abandoned special moves. Plus, she has an absolutely devastating head of ice-hair.

Ashrah . . . well, I'm a Kitana fanboy, so obviously, there's something wrong with me that makes me sympethetic to characters who are searching for redemption, even if they are boring Deception characters, or have been given silly looking porn faces lately.

They are both fully dressed characters who obviously exist for reasons aside from eye-candy, which is good, except for the fact that Sareena's double-thong seems to exist specifically to undo any possible respect those two might garner I can't even look at her without wondering "how much?".

I agree there is nothing specific stating that Order and Chaos exist under a state of Mortal Kombat, including the fact that Order troops were in Chaosrealm. Kahn was able to attack the White Lotus Society after MK1, or so Wikipedia tells me. However, there is nothing to indicate that they don't engage in Mortal Kombat, either. I might have to ask Midway about it, because it certainly ties together the whole Order/Chaos motif.
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fatality76
11/04/2006 04:42 AM (UTC)
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I hate dairou but i like darrius my friend gav him a catch phrase for his alt you stole my baby fool (i dont know why.)
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red_dragon
11/04/2006 06:36 PM (UTC)
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Neither of them are really relevant to what's going on in MK, but out of the two, I much prefer Darrius. He needs improvement, but I actually quite like his freedom fighter/terrorist angle. OK, his alternate is stereotyped, but nowhere near as bad as Jax's wannabe rapper look. Never liked Dairou, although there are worse characters in the roster.

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11/05/2006 10:49 AM (UTC)
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Kobra is hella good in MKD just not MKA, now for Darrius I hate him with a freaking passion and wish he just blow some chunks..heehee

Dairou he somewhat okay in MKD he is a master of killing anyone since I know Igniz's Dai can kick some tail and it all depends the player that usues him.. For me MKA he kinda slow on TS drop just still he is so so.. in my own opinion.
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11/05/2006 01:58 PM (UTC)
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Don't care for either of them. Darrius has nothing going for him but the shades and Dairou looks like he's been holding in a dump for years.
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11/06/2006 04:00 AM (UTC)
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I like Darrius. There's nothing really wrong as him as a character. I mean his freakin' alt is Jim Kelly!

Dairou is the most bland character in MK history. But he did have an interesting ending in Armageddon.

As for Hsu Hao, as a character he's not that good, but he had the best Fatality in Deadly Alliance.
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