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01/11/2008 01:26 AM (UTC)
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@ jin - there different games by far tho . not only do weapons own , but in SC you can actually move unlike tekken were you play with a monkey on your back .

^ im shure dan feels the same way .
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01/11/2008 01:35 AM (UTC)
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hopefully sc4 isnt broken like sc2 and 3 though.

i still loved sc2 but sc3 was a complete turnoff on how broken it was.
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01/11/2008 02:15 AM (UTC)
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Everyone keeps saying that 2 and 3 were broken I need a video on it. can someone post a vid showing how broken it is?
*and make sure its a Clicky!*
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01/11/2008 03:15 AM (UTC)
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Shogun Wrote:
hopefully sc4 isnt broken like sc2 and 3 though.

i still loved sc2 but sc3 was a complete turnoff on how broken it was.

turnoff ?
why? were all the offline elites beating you? lol
im shure they wont fuck up, unless boon intrudes along with midway and gamespy wink
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01/11/2008 04:48 AM (UTC)
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krayziebonethug Wrote:
Shogun Wrote:
hopefully sc4 isnt broken like sc2 and 3 though.

i still loved sc2 but sc3 was a complete turnoff on how broken it was.

turnoff ?
why? were all the offline elites beating you? lol
im shure they wont fuck up, unless boon intrudes along with midway and gamespy wink


Fool, this is Soul Calibur we're talking about.

SC is the equivalent of MK. It is a fighter that Namco doesn't test sufficiently so it ends up fairly broken. Have any of you actually played these games competitively?

The last two Soul Calibur games were broken within a month (like MK), and never played during any tournaments (like MK) that I attended.

I really don't know what this useless hype about SC IV is anyway.
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01/11/2008 06:00 AM (UTC)
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krayziebonethug Wrote:
Shogun Wrote:
hopefully sc4 isnt broken like sc2 and 3 though.

i still loved sc2 but sc3 was a complete turnoff on how broken it was.

turnoff ?
why? were all the offline elites beating you? lol
im shure they wont fuck up, unless boon intrudes along with midway and gamespy wink


bone you have no clue do you? lol

i am elite at sc2 bro, sc3 not so much because i didnt want to play that piece of shit.

i played sc2 if possible at a competitive level and won many tourneys, when i say its my best game, that and umk3 im not shitting you.
LOL

Im not a big fan of Soul Calibur, but its weird to mix 2 differents story!

I think a starwar fighting game with all characters of the movies would be cool!!


...just like the matrix fighting game would be cool too!





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01/11/2008 08:08 AM (UTC)
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Fuck Soul Calibur.


Broken as shit "X" runs that game. Its pointless.
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SC is a game ill actually enjoy , although that is messed up,Tekken doesnt grab my attention anymore since T3 .

same shit .


@ shogun - good shit dude .


oh and 1st place 4 times in a row 4 victories in Call of Duty 4 today while my homies went to the store , what you know bout that king of brutality . hehe thats my shit man , love them shooters . you gonna be on tommorow ?



btw - Nakm - you got to get CoD4 man . hurry foo !
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01/11/2008 10:11 AM (UTC)
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Dave & Arcade ~ you guys crack me up. bitching about MK and SC so much. saying how its flawed and what not, Your so called great Tekken has its flaws as well.

Tekken has certain characters that over power other characters. combos that take well over 50% of damage, im talking 3-5 hits atleast in mk it takes like 8-10 hits and theres a breaker button. Throws that take 35%-60%. the walls totally fuck up the game & moving around is goofy. I try to fucking Side step and i end up JUMPING WTF!! O_O this happenes all the time w/ me its so stupid. This Never happenes in 3D MK. Dial a combo is in Tekken as well HOWEVER you can duck or side step and counter them in Tekken. Hopefully future MKs will allow this.

Tekken fans may not agree but i could come up w/ a bunch of stuff both games have.

I ALSO LIKE THE WAKE UP GAME FOR MKA over Tekkens. I really mean that.

after all these days of playing Tekken i still prefer MKD-MKA.

i like the block button. the way i see it Soul cal takes whats best in Tekken and whats best in MK and combines them.



Soul Cal IV im sure they'll remove the Glitches and such that were in 2 & 3.


Soul Edge/Blade and Soul Cal are great games.
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01/11/2008 10:21 AM (UTC)
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01/11/2008 10:51 AM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
Dave & Arcade ~ you guys crack me up. bitching about MK and SC so much. saying how its flawed and what not, Your so called great Tekken has its flaws as well.

Tekken has certain characters that over power other characters. combos that take well over 50% of damage, im talking 3-5 hits atleast in mk it takes like 8-10 hits and theres a breaker button. Throws that take 35%-60%. the walls totally fuck up the game & moving around is goofy. I try to fucking Side step and i end up JUMPING WTF!! O_O this happenes all the time w/ me its so stupid. This Never happenes in 3D MK. Dial a combo is in Tekken as well HOWEVER you can duck or side step and counter them in Tekken. Hopefully future MKs will allow this.

Tekken fans may not agree but i could come up w/ a bunch of stuff both games have.

I ALSO LIKE THE WAKE UP GAME FOR MKA over Tekkens. I really mean that.

after all these days of playing Tekken i still prefer MKD-MKA.

i like the block button. the way i see it Soul cal takes whats best in Tekken and whats best in MK and combines them.



Soul Cal IV im sure they'll remove the Glitches and such that were in 2 & 3.


Soul Edge/Blade and Soul Cal are great games.


" Your so called great Tekken... "

*shakes head*

sounds like Dan's time of the month just hit.....

But since you wanna make a big deal about this, I'll give you my thoughts.


Anyone that would prefer MKA's wake up game rather then Tekkens is a fool as far as fighting games go.

MKA's is pathetic, and poorly programed. I'm not gonna even go into detail because you should know by now.

Tekkens is superior by far. When knocked down by an opponent, the ball is easily in your court. You can attack from the ground, you can roll, or you can roll then attack. Either way, its a hella alot more than what MKA offers.



Now... if you argue this, then you are stupid.


MK's 3-D fighting games are major shits of shit. Especially MKD which is pretty much a guessing game. Dairou is quite possible the most broken fighting game character to ever exist outside of boss characters (we're talking all fighting games here)

It is flawed. Its more than that.... its fucking garbage. Why I've played it so much is far beyond me. I guess I was really that bored at the time....

So you tell me, Dan.... Why arent any MK's outside of UMK3 played in tournaments ?

= /



Now for Soul Calibur.... I'm not gonna even go in depth with this. SC3 is Namco's MKA. Its horrible. SC2 wasnt so bad, but its not a great game either. Both we're broken.


Dan, its all opinion based. Everyones allowed to have their opinions.... but actual facts cannot be argued. MKD, MKA, and SC3 are all shitty fighting games that we're not tested properly and very broken.

I guess there really are people out there in the world that appreciate only garbage fighting games.....

I'll bet SC4 is only going to be worse. Only time will tell, but thats my guess.



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01/11/2008 11:22 AM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
Dave & Arcade ~ you guys crack me up. bitching about MK and SC so much. saying how its flawed and what not, Your so called great Tekken has its flaws as well.

Tekken has certain characters that over power other characters. combos that take well over 50% of damage, im talking 3-5 hits atleast in mk it takes like 8-10 hits and theres a breaker button. Throws that take 35%-60%. the walls totally fuck up the game & moving around is goofy. I try to fucking Side step and i end up JUMPING WTF!! O_O this happenes all the time w/ me its so stupid. This Never happenes in 3D MK. Dial a combo is in Tekken as well HOWEVER you can duck or side step and counter them in Tekken. Hopefully future MKs will allow this.

Tekken fans may not agree but i could come up w/ a bunch of stuff both games have.

I ALSO LIKE THE WAKE UP GAME FOR MKA over Tekkens. I really mean that.

after all these days of playing Tekken i still prefer MKD-MKA.

i like the block button. the way i see it Soul cal takes whats best in Tekken and whats best in MK and combines them.



Soul Cal IV im sure they'll remove the Glitches and such that were in 2 & 3.


Soul Edge/Blade and Soul Cal are great games.


I did not even mention Tekken in my post because atrocities, such as the the 3D MK games and the previous two Soul Calibur games, don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same paragraph as Tekken (or Virtua Fighter).

But since you did mention Tekken, I'd be glad to reply. Listen, it's not my fault that you:

1. don't know how to perform the simplest of moves so you blame it on the game

2. don't know how to backdash cancel so you think the game needs a block button

3. don't know how to escape throws so you whine about the throws, which are ALL escapable in Tekken unlike in the 3D MK games and in Soul Calibur 2 and 3 (using some glitches/bugs for the latter) where they are not escapable

4. don't know how to side step by simply tapping "u"

5. don't know what to do when next to walls

6. don't know how to play Tekken 5: DR in general

MK:A's wake up game isn't even close to being as good as Tekken's wake up game simply because Tekken offers you many more options that MK won't have until Mortal Kombat 12.

I have no hate for the Soul Calibur series at all. It's not my fault that the previous two titles were as easily exploited as MK:A. There is a reason for that because Namco doesn't put as much effort as they do for Tekken. They don't even test the game properly.

You'll eventually learn if the game is online.
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01/11/2008 12:58 PM (UTC)
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krayziebonethug Wrote:
SC is a game ill actually enjoy , although that is messed up,Tekken doesnt grab my attention anymore since T3 .

same shit .


@ shogun - good shit dude .


oh and 1st place 4 times in a row 4 victories in Call of Duty 4 today while my homies went to the store , what you know bout that king of brutality . hehe thats my shit man , love them shooters . you gonna be on tommorow ?



btw - Nakm - you got to get CoD4 man . hurry foo !


yea nakm, cod4 is the shit dude, i prefer free for all over team battle though.

and yes bone i should be on tommrow, a friend is coming over also so yeah.
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01/11/2008 03:43 PM (UTC)
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Soon guys. I'm debating on whether I should get Call of Duty 4 or Unreal Tournament 3. Both of them I really want. But what pisses me off about FPS is that EVERYONE likes to play either deathmatch or team deathmatch. It's so stupid. No one likes to play capture the flag or supply drop (Killzone), etc. I think it's because those games take more brain power and strategy than deathmatch which is what most of those players don't have.

Oh yeah and Dan, quit your bitching!tongue You know Tekken is far more superior than MKA and MKD.

Dave don't mind him, he's just mad at my Lili, lol.winkglasses
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01/11/2008 04:40 PM (UTC)
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@ Dave and RJ - what you guys fail to understand is that Tekken is not for everyone , and saying the only reason for this is because one cant handle the game is just plain ignorant .

just as much as some perfer a different shooter game . its a players option in what he perfers .


@ Nakm - get CoD4 or die !


dude its all about team deathmatch . but anyway , in CoD4 your experience opens up your game choices .


@ Shogun - lol free for all is weak dude , if you want to get better play TD .
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01/11/2008 06:46 PM (UTC)
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@ Dave and RJ - what you guys fail to understand is that Tekken is not for everyone , and saying the only reason for this is because one cant handle the game is just plain ignorant .

just as much as some perfer a different shooter game . its a players option in what he perfers .


@ Nakm - get CoD4 or die !


dude its all about team deathmatch . but anyway , in CoD4 your experience opens up your game choices .


@ Shogun - lol free for all is weak dude , if you want to get better play TD .
kinda funny w/ RJ since he struggles w/ it as well.




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danadbab Wrote:
Dave & Arcade ~ you guys crack me up. bitching about MK and SC so much. saying how its flawed and what not, Your so called great Tekken has its flaws as well.

Tekken has certain characters that over power other characters. combos that take well over 50% of damage, im talking 3-5 hits atleast in mk it takes like 8-10 hits and theres a breaker button. Throws that take 35%-60%. the walls totally fuck up the game & moving around is goofy. I try to fucking Side step and i end up JUMPING WTF!! O_O this happenes all the time w/ me its so stupid. This Never happenes in 3D MK. Dial a combo is in Tekken as well HOWEVER you can duck or side step and counter them in Tekken. Hopefully future MKs will allow this.

Tekken fans may not agree but i could come up w/ a bunch of stuff both games have.

I ALSO LIKE THE WAKE UP GAME FOR MKA over Tekkens. I really mean that.

after all these days of playing Tekken i still prefer MKD-MKA.

i like the block button. the way i see it Soul cal takes whats best in Tekken and whats best in MK and combines them.



Soul Cal IV im sure they'll remove the Glitches and such that were in 2 & 3.


Soul Edge/Blade and Soul Cal are great games.


I did not even mention Tekken in my post because atrocities, such as the the 3D MK games and the previous two Soul Calibur games, don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same paragraph as Tekken (or Virtua Fighter).

But since you did mention Tekken, I'd be glad to reply. Listen, it's not my fault that you:

1. don't know how to perform the simplest of moves so you blame it on the game

2. don't know how to backdash cancel so you think the game needs a block button

3. don't know how to escape throws so you whine about the throws, which are ALL escapable in Tekken unlike in the 3D MK games and in Soul Calibur 2 and 3 (using some glitches/bugs for the latter) where they are not escapable

4. don't know how to side step by simply tapping "u"

5. don't know what to do when next to walls

6. don't know how to play Tekken 5: DR in general

MK:A's wake up game isn't even close to being as good as Tekken's wake up game simply because Tekken offers you many more options that MK won't have until Mortal Kombat 12.

I have no hate for the Soul Calibur series at all. It's not my fault that the previous two titles were as easily exploited as MK:A. There is a reason for that because Namco doesn't put as much effort as they do for Tekken. They don't even test the game properly.

You'll eventually learn if the game is online.


1 ~ i dont have issues doing the moves now, how ever the harder ones i try to do i end up getting smacked to the ground so they end up being pointless.

2 ~ i never said Tekken needs a block button. i said i prefer a block button.

3 ~ I KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF THROWS, the throws arent the issue the issue was the damage they deliver. throws are meant to stop some one from turtling so much not remove half their life. i love how theres throws that throw ducking foes and such.

4 ~ i said some times i end up jumping when i am just simply tapping up. i have to tap twice to prevent myself from jumping.

5 ~ i dont care what you say about the walls, i've see every one including yourself get killed by the wall. its to easy for some one to 50/50 you to death.

6 ~ been playing it a bunch now. i am enjoying myself, but i cant sit here w/ a straight face and say its not flawed and doesnt have its down sides.

7 ~ MKA's wake up doesnt have as many options, but its more responsive. i love being able to QR w/ a combo or an attack I want to do.

8 ~ lets have faith in Namco that they can again make a soul edge/blade and soul cal and not repeat the mistake of SC 2 and 3.


i know how to play the game alot more then before thanks to you Dave. right now i need to work on combos after i pop some one into the air.










Arcade ~ when knocked down the "ball" isnt in 1 players court, both players have a 50/50 option.
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01/11/2008 09:22 PM (UTC)
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well, the only shooter im not half way decent at is halo.


im complete garbage at all halos

halo 3 im decent at the most.
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01/11/2008 11:05 PM (UTC)
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You know... A game can be broken but can be fun. Example?
MK2 - unbalanced characters, glitchy collision detection.... yeah its broken alright, but do people still enjoy it? Yes.
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01/12/2008 12:14 AM (UTC)
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Iori9 Wrote:
You know... A game can be broken but can be fun. Example?
MK2 - unbalanced characters, glitchy collision detection.... yeah its broken alright, but do people still enjoy it? Yes.

........I have no comeback for this one, you hit it right on the button there Iori.
@SC haters- two things.
1. I still don't have a video link showing why its broken.
2. If SC was so "broken" and it'll never change, why the fuck are we ALL gonna go out and get MK8 when it comes out?
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01/12/2008 12:49 AM (UTC)
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no one ever said we wouldnt get sc4

the only reason i might not is because of star wars lame ass bullshit.
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01/12/2008 02:25 AM (UTC)
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I'm not getting it period. Fuck that shit! I'm waitin for Tekken 6.
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01/12/2008 03:45 AM (UTC)
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Iori9 Wrote:
You know... A game can be broken but can be fun. Example?
MK2 - unbalanced characters, glitchy collision detection.... yeah its broken alright, but do people still enjoy it? Yes.
glitchy collision detection? whats this? please explain?

unbalanced characters are in every fighting game Including Tekken However when you pit 2 high level players of a game unbalanced characters go out the window.
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01/12/2008 11:50 AM (UTC)
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I'm not getting it period. Fuck that shit! I'm waitin for Tekken 6.


Same here.
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01/13/2008 01:24 AM (UTC)
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Dan, there are no throws in Tekken that remove "half your life". Regular throws do 35 pts. of damage, which is the equivalent of approximately 20%-25% of your life bar. The most damaging throws do 40% of damage at best. Really, no one can do 50% of damage after a throw unless walls are involved, and only two characters come to mind who can do that are King's Giant Swing to wall (wall) d+3+4, and Jack-5's 1+3 (wall) d/b+2. The rest is exaggeration on your part.

Most high level players will escape throws 90% of the time anyway. Not to mention, you can duck them and easily launch your opponent when his/her throw whiffs.

Also, crouch throws are rather useless, so I don't know what your problem with them is.

MK's wake up game more responsive? XD. Whatever fool.

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