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01/13/2008 01:44 AM (UTC)
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Have you fuckers seen Panda/Kuma's back throw?! That shit takes away 70 points of damage!wow It literally takes out half your health bar.furious Oh Dave you forgot Nina and Anna's U+F/2+1 and Heihachi's Broken Toy throws. They benefit off the wall too.
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01/13/2008 03:43 AM (UTC)
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m2dave Wrote:
Dan, there are no throws in Tekken that remove "half your life". Regular throws do 35 pts. of damage, which is the equivalent of approximately 20%-25% of your life bar. The most damaging throws do 40% of damage at best. Really, no one can do 50% of damage after a throw unless walls are involved, and only two characters come to mind who can do that are King's Giant Swing to wall (wall) d+3+4, and Jack-5's 1+3 (wall) d/b+2. The rest is exaggeration on your part.

Most high level players will escape throws 90% of the time anyway. Not to mention, you can duck them and easily launch your opponent when his/her throw whiffs.

Also, crouch throws are rather useless, so I don't know what your problem with them is.

MK's wake up game more responsive? XD. Whatever fool.

most characters have easy 40% ones. Eddie has that rodeo one. and if some one manages to get behind a character and throw 60% + gone.

I was saying I LOVE THE DUCK THROWS, all 2-D games have them i was glad to see a 3-D game have them. Eddies isnt useless.

MKA's Wake up oddly is more responsive then Tekkens.

in Tekken you still have to deal w/ 50/50 from your foe while on the ground. it feels like MKD.
EDIT ~ ok i just played MKA, i will admit that when you comapre the 2 games MKA is kinda Retarded O_o i cant find another word to describe it. i also still think that its wake up is more responsive.
the damage issue needs to be tweaked a bit in Tekken 6 and theres got to be a better way to remove yourself from being trapped againist walls.
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01/13/2008 10:05 AM (UTC)
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Gamer, for Nina's / Anna's (wall) u/f+1+2, you get a free wake up, 3 into follow ups up close as their opponent.

Heihachi's QCF+1 is so slow and doesn't track at all. You'll barely see any player using it.

Just like I said, Tekken throws are not broken in any way, shape, or form. Some are very good but not broken because you can side step and duck all command throws, and punish them. All command throws have horrible recoveries when they whiff, too. And let's not forget that you can escape all of them.

MK:A's wake up game is a total joke compared to Tekken's, not just animation-wise (because they just come out instantly with no animations whatsoever) but also in terms of usefulness because, as I've already explained, Tekken's wake up game allows you many more options.

Tekken has other serious problems, such as its juggle damage and the crush system, but its wake up game is definitely not one of them. It really never has been since TTT.
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01/13/2008 02:43 PM (UTC)
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This thread is for Soul Calibur,not Tekken.So please post in the thread for the subject.
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01/13/2008 04:06 PM (UTC)
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01/13/2008 05:38 PM (UTC)
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I just saw a Soul Calibur 3 combo vid on youtube and the only really fucked up stuff I saw was the OTG and OTW (off the wall) game. the OTGs were worst then MKD. You could get like 60% or more just from a few hits. But the only thing I really liked about the whole thing was the damage ratio. there were was only one or two 100% combos and those took like 20 hits just to do it.
O.k now after watching that vid some of the things you guys were saying was a little over exaggerated. When I clicked on the vid I thought I was gonna be looking at 100% combos for all the characters but I did'nt.
The video was called "Soul Calibur 3- The Untold Legend"
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01/13/2008 09:35 PM (UTC)
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khanswarrior15 Wrote:
This thread is for Soul Calibur,not Tekken.So please post in the thread for the subject.
actually the Tekken Talk isnt really off topic. were discussing the pros and cons of MKA, Tekken & Soul Cal.
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01/13/2008 11:34 PM (UTC)
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Never mind I looked at the SC3 vid again and saw that you can block while being juggled O_o. Thats sad to call it a Namco game.
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01/14/2008 03:22 AM (UTC)
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01/14/2008 04:40 AM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
khanswarrior15 Wrote:
This thread is for Soul Calibur,not Tekken.So please post in the thread for the subject.
actually the Tekken Talk isnt really off topic. were discussing the pros and cons of MKA, Tekken & Soul Cal.


I understand that,but this thread is for Soul Calibur; Not MKA or Tekken.
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01/14/2008 06:18 AM (UTC)
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Dan, use Nina in Tekken 6:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XMwrG9Xpko&feature;=user
so are all those hits unblockable after the 1st hit? anyway i use her for TDR as well. i just learned some news moves LOL i went to that Tekken site for her best moves.

Question when they talk about her they say stuff like her WTF, Shut up & STFU moves. i learned that WTF means wipe the floor her d,d/f 4. what do the other 2 mean?

also what does WS & CH stand for?
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01/14/2008 06:37 AM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
m2dave Wrote:
Dan, use Nina in Tekken 6:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XMwrG9Xpko&feature;=user
so are all those hits unblockable after the 1st hit? anyway i use her for TDR as well. i just learned some news moves LOL i went to that Tekken site for her best moves.

Question when they talk about her they say stuff like her WTF, Shut up & STFU moves. i learned that WTF means wipe the floor her d,d/f 4. what do the other 2 mean?

also what does WS & CH stand for?

CH stands for Counter Hit, and...um...what does WS stand for? I've been wondering that too...
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01/14/2008 08:04 AM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
m2dave Wrote:
Dan, use Nina in Tekken 6:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XMwrG9Xpko&feature;=user
so are all those hits unblockable after the 1st hit? anyway i use her for TDR as well. i just learned some news moves LOL i went to that Tekken site for her best moves.

Question when they talk about her they say stuff like her WTF, Shut up & STFU moves. i learned that WTF means wipe the floor her d,d/f 4. what do the other 2 mean?

also what does WS & CH stand for?


Yes, all is guaranteed but don't get too excited as I'm pretty sure Namco will patch it along with all the other current broken shit.

Yeah, WTF is d,d/f+4. Shut up is d,d/f+2. I'm not sure what STFU is. It might be u/f+1 or b+1+4 or neither. I am not sure.

CH is obviously "counter hit". WS is "while standing".

Everyone in Tekken has WS moves. For example, Nina has WS+2. Simply crouch, and then let go off d (or d/b), and then press "2". Nina will do an uppercut that launches. WS moves are used to punish low attacks and whiffed throws (after you duck them). Nina also has WS+1,2, WS+4, and WS+3. Experiment and see what they all do.

There is also iWS (instant while standing) if you ever see it. It's done either with d,d/b,N (insert button here) or with d,d/f,N (insert button here).
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01/14/2008 09:43 AM (UTC)
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m2dave Wrote:
danadbab Wrote:
m2dave Wrote:
Dan, use Nina in Tekken 6:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XMwrG9Xpko&feature;=user
so are all those hits unblockable after the 1st hit? anyway i use her for TDR as well. i just learned some news moves LOL i went to that Tekken site for her best moves.

Question when they talk about her they say stuff like her WTF, Shut up & STFU moves. i learned that WTF means wipe the floor her d,d/f 4. what do the other 2 mean?

also what does WS & CH stand for?


Yes, all is guaranteed but don't get too excited as I'm pretty sure Namco will patch it along with all the other current broken shit.

Yeah, WTF is d,d/f+4. Shut up is d,d/f+2. I'm not sure what STFU is. It might be u/f+1 or b+1+4 or neither. I am not sure.

CH is obviously "counter hit". WS is "while standing".

Everyone in Tekken has WS moves. For example, Nina has WS+2. Simply crouch, and then let go off d (or d/b), and then press "2". Nina will do an uppercut that launches. WS moves are used to punish low attacks and whiffed throws (after you duck them). Nina also has WS+1,2, WS+4, and WS+3. Experiment and see what they all do.

There is also iWS (instant while standing) if you ever see it. It's done either with d,d/b,N (insert button here) or with d,d/f,N (insert button here).
ahh yea i need to add WS moves. i think the dude that said stfu was meaning the shut up move. thanks again for the info.
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01/15/2008 04:56 PM (UTC)
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All you sons a bitches are missing out on Virtua Fighter 5 online! I have no need for Tekken and practicing EGWF for 3hrs a day, the hardest command I've had to do in VF is Just framing 236kk~k on hit... seriously
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01/15/2008 09:36 PM (UTC)
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All you sons a bitches are missing out on Virtua Fighter 5 online! I have no need for Tekken and practicing EGWF for 3hrs a day, the hardest command I've had to do in VF is Just framing 236kk~k on hit... seriously
YAY for you JERK. winkonce VF goes online for PS3 ill get it. im not buying an Xbox360 for VF.
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01/15/2008 10:43 PM (UTC)
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Mr. S is just hating cuz he sucks at Tekken and everyone's playing that instead.tongue
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01/16/2008 05:54 PM (UTC)
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Hey it's not my fault they just updated VF5 -TODAY- with saved replays for online ranked & player matches along with a new option of a rematch in player matches. Good lord, they actually listen!

Why are the Japanese so good at making fighting games and americans can suck so hard at it?

Dan i know you ain't gettin a 360 so I'm tryin to have fun with it. tongue
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01/17/2008 01:01 AM (UTC)
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Soul Calibur was ruined right when they made a sequel to the first one.
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01/18/2008 10:44 AM (UTC)
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yo MrSchpfmut, i know u have no clue who i am but i just picked up vf5. hit me up if u wanna get some games in - peace
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01/18/2008 11:14 AM (UTC)
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yo MrSchpfmut, i know u have no clue who i am but i just picked up vf5. hit me up if u wanna get some games in - peace
he has a nice pretty thread in the XBOX FORUM. go there and post this.
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01/18/2008 01:54 PM (UTC)
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Why are you guys over-reacting to Yoda and Vada inclusion. So long long as the game plays well, I couldn't give a monkey's about whether or not they're mixing real life based characters with futurist ones. Just wait till it's released befor eyou decide. I'm pretty excited it's coming to 360 though!

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01/18/2008 04:00 PM (UTC)
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opps sorry, never been in the xbox forum before. i had no clue. thanks dan sorry guys- later
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