guys, they're both Brothers of the shadow. Noob is like working a deal with Smoke or something. It's not comepletly random.

I think they both have 1 alt.
2 fatalities per person depending on who you finish a match with.

The endind will probably be like explaining the split up or something.

I love it, adds a new diferent dimension to the fighting

They don't need a weapon style, they are a f*ckin' weapon. I agree on the fusion only because they were two shallow characters, and I felt, were similar to each other anyway.

Shallow meaning they keep them shallow as individuals, making them share a movelist to form one character in a sense.

I thought it would be cool if Noob and Smoke fused in a sense that when you change between them they just morph.. just an idea, but would take away the double-team moves that are really sweet.

It kind of is a teaser for an MKTag mode.

I think Shinnok has something to do with this. He could have struck a deal with noob and smoke with the promise of power or freedom etc. Think about it, noobs completely black, smoke is basically ethereal, 2 stealth warriors combined into one, the perfect team for retrieving his amulet.

i think this is what they originally intended for these characters remember mk2 the movie? they had it there and i think they wanted to do that here but failed and with better graphics engine they were able to pull it off

I embrace the idea and cannot wait to try them out together.Only after I play around with Kabal that is.

I wish the tag team was a new feature where you could do it with any two characters and not have just Noob Smoke. I hate Noob but love Smoke. It could be difficult, but possible. I'm still mad about it.

But in the MK movie the shadow was Noob and te other one they called Ermac... it wasn't smoke

I think it's a very original concept overall, and they are going to be the 1st ones I unlock!

I think they are going to be like ice climbers in SSM: melee.. depending on the costume one is the main fighter

I agree with you, it's stupid as all hell. It's totally out of place in a one on one fighting game.

I say they make a Tag Team mode or game beofe they make a solo Tag Team. It's just too out of place. Everyone fights by them selfs, but then Noob and Smoke fight together without being able to fight solo(as of now). It's just very incomplete/out of place/unbalanced.

Also, they are finally going to make Smoke very unique but then make him only a tag chaarcter that has to have a tag along with him all the time. Very lazy/lame on their part.

Smoke never had a chane, and when he finally does, he gets the shaft. Great fucking job Midway.

i back that up the all the way they need to change it they really do.its just random and it sucks on the part for the people whole like noob and smoke as thier favorite individual character.

U guys are looking at it half empty.
They arent weaker cause they work together, they are stronger.
I like that they the only ones that are a team.
Their unquie in that way,

If you ask me I freakin' hate it!!! I was really lookin forward to play as Noob seperately not fused. Same with Smoke.

Everyone talks about how great this is to have a tag-team! NO-THIS IS SCREWED UP!!!!

Imagine how Screwed Up Deadly Alliance woulda been if you coulda picked Quan Chi and Shang Tsung Fused???? Or Scorpion and Sub-Zero??? G*D FORBID!!!! Midway can decide to do whatever they want!

Midway if you want my 60 bucks and fifty of my friends who were going to put their 60 bucks in your wallet then Noob/Smoke-UNFUSE THEM!!!!!!!!! Cuz I'm pissed and so are they, and I'm not spending 60 bucks on this game if there fused.

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this but I don't care!

I think it's a good idea to make them a team, they don't have a very solid amount of original moves between them to fill up a full list of moves. But I'd still like to play as each of them separately some time.

no offense but if your on this site youll probably buy the game anyway.
Sorry you dont like it wish we could have both
Team and seperate.

Let me start of by saying how completly ignorant the people are who have judged this character already. You have no idea whether or not you have to switch between them or not. I highly doubt they will just switch at the drop of a hat. What will most likely happen is that who ever you start with you can play for the rest of the match switch with to the other or use the alternat costume or some other simple command to start as the other person. And if this is enough for you ungrateful spoiled little motherf***ing peices of shit that havent been weened of your mothers tit yet to bitch about not buying this game just because of this ONE character, then don't. You don't deserve to be apart of one of the greatest games to date. A game that is the first fighter online, which has surpassed Tekken, Soul Caliber, Street Fighter, Virtual Fighter, and any other fighter game out there. A game that doesn't even have to be released as one game with the 2 minigames on it. They could have released those games seperately if they wanted to. And they would have made at least twice the money they're going make if they would've seperated them. But they didn't. Why? Because Ed Boon is the motherfuckin MAN and Midway is the best fucking Game company to let him be that way.

And Secondly, Since when did Noob Saibot have the same moves in MK Trilogy that Scorpion had. Last time I checked Scorpion never had:

Teleport Slam - The best special move of the entire series

Energy Ball - 10 seconds of complete reign to beat the crap out of the opponent when all they can do is try run or jump

Shadow Throw - Send in the clone and throw his ass over to me

I believe Human Smoke was the Scorpion clone.

And robot Smoke was the perfect combination of special moves.
Scorpions Spear - If I remember correctly Scorpion usually follows with an uppercut that just happens to be the slowest in game and sometimes gets blocked. Not only is Smoke's tele uppercut a better follow up for more options, but Smoke's regular uppercut is bit more faster than Scorpions
Sektors Teleport Uppercut - Wow I can teleport uppercut you and then launch a missle that takes so little damage or is so slow it usually gets blocked, or if I'm Smoke I can teleport uppercut you then harpoon you wich is much faster and then combo your ass into next year. Gee, let me think.

Reptiles Invisibility - this was useless on Reptile any way his other moves were either to damn slow (energy orb) or to high and not enough damage (acid spit) not mention these gave him away to easily.

And who hell hasn't ever want to blow up the world before COME ON!!!!

Its those combination of special moves that made Smoke and Noob Saibot the 2 best characters in MK trilogy if not Mortal Kombat History.

jerodcross Wrote: Let me start of by saying how completly ignorant the people are who have judged this character already. You have no idea whether or not you have to switch between them or not. I highly doubt they will just switch at the drop of a hat. What will most likely happen is that who ever you start with you can play for the rest of the match switch with to the other or use the alternat costume or some other simple command to start as the other person. And if this is enough for you ungrateful spoiled little motherf***ing peices of shit that havent been weened of your mothers tit yet to bitch about not buying this game just because of this ONE character, then don't. You don't deserve to be apart of one of the greatest games to date. A game that is the first fighter online, which has surpassed Tekken, Soul Caliber, Street Fighter, Virtual Fighter, and any other fighter game out there. A game that doesn't even have to be released as one game with the 2 minigames on it. They could have released those games seperately if they wanted to. And they would have made at least twice the money they're going make if they would've seperated them. But they didn't. Why? Because Ed Boon is the motherfuckin MAN and Midway is the best fucking Game company to let him be that way. And Secondly, Since when did Noob Saibot have the same moves in MK Trilogy that Scorpion had. Last time I checked Scorpion never had: Teleport Slam - The best special move of the entire series Energy Ball - 10 seconds of complete reign to beat the crap out of the opponent when all they can do is try run or jump Shadow Throw - Send in the clone and throw his ass over to me I believe Human Smoke was the Scorpion clone. And robot Smoke was the perfect combination of special moves. Scorpions Spear - If I remember correctly Scorpion usually follows with an uppercut that just happens to be the slowest in game and sometimes gets blocked. Not only is Smoke's tele uppercut a better follow up for more options, but Smoke's regular uppercut is bit more faster than Scorpions Sektors Teleport Uppercut - Wow I can teleport uppercut you and then launch a missle that takes so little damage or is so slow it usually gets blocked, or if I'm Smoke I can teleport uppercut you then harpoon you wich is much faster and then combo your ass into next year. Gee, let me think. Reptiles Invisibility - this was useless on Reptile any way his other moves were either to damn slow (energy orb) or to high and not enough damage (acid spit) not mention these gave him away to easily. And who hell hasn't ever want to blow up the world before COME ON!!!! Its those combination of special moves that made Smoke and Noob Saibot the 2 best characters in MK trilogy if not Mortal Kombat History.

I agree with you on mostly everything here, except the part about it surpassing the games mentioned above. It never will. Those games are in a different genre of fighting games, they emphasis depth in combat, while MK focuses on more of a pick-up style of fighting game, so it's easy to get into. As for everything else, i have nothing more to say, with the exception of mentioning that the very first color swap of both Sub-Zero and Scorpion was Reptile, yet ignorant fanboys forget that and move straight to Smoke and Noob.

Well...it LOOKS interesting, and I admire them for trying it, however I was looking forward to using Noob, on his own...but I am very open to the idea, depending on what the motivation, i.e. storyline implications are.


If they can twist it around into an interesting plot...then I'm all for it.


There is obviously a reason they're fused together....maybe Smoke was captured by Noob, and programmed as an aide...or something, who knows.


For now though, I am glad, because it just adds a few more questions, that the fan base wants answered, and that's a good thing at this point, since day by day, more info is being released...but now with the noob-smoke thing...there are a few more questions that have to be answered.

Will they be answered now? or October 4th? Only time will tell I suppose.

As to what I meant by surpassing them, I was talking about how everyone has been begging for an online fighter and that MKD is the first to do it.

As far as character comparison I was only speaking of those repeatedly talking about MK Trilogy

A tag team?? well that changes everything.
i hated the idea of them being a "fused" character because i thought they literally had become 1 person. but now that they're still 2 but just a team, i guess i can live with that.
Still a bit strange though...i'm just gonna wait till the game comes out

jerodcross Wrote: As to what I meant by surpassing them, I was talking about how everyone has been begging for an online fighter and that MKD is the first to do it. As far as character comparison I was only speaking of those repeatedly talking about MK Trilogy

Oh, my fault. But MK isn't the only one though, DOAU is also fully online. But if you wanna go way back, the Sega Saturn's Net Link let you play Virtua On: Cyber Troopers on line, so that's the first 3D fighter ever.

jerodcross Wrote: Let me start of by saying how completly ignorant the people are who have judged this character already. You have no idea whether or not you have to switch between them or not. I highly doubt they will just switch at the drop of a hat. What will most likely happen is that who ever you start with you can play for the rest of the match switch with to the other or use the alternat costume or some other simple command to start as the other person. And if this is enough for you ungrateful spoiled little motherf***ing peices of shit that havent been weened of your mothers tit yet to bitch about not buying this game just because of this ONE character, then don't. You don't deserve to be apart of one of the greatest games to date. A game that is the first fighter online, which has surpassed Tekken, Soul Caliber, Street Fighter, Virtual Fighter, and any other fighter game out there. A game that doesn't even have to be released as one game with the 2 minigames on it. They could have released those games seperately if they wanted to. And they would have made at least twice the money they're going make if they would've seperated them. But they didn't. Why? Because Ed Boon is the motherfuckin MAN and Midway is the best fucking Game company to let him be that way. And Secondly, Since when did Noob Saibot have the same moves in MK Trilogy that Scorpion had. Last time I checked Scorpion never had: Teleport Slam - The best special move of the entire series Energy Ball - 10 seconds of complete reign to beat the crap out of the opponent when all they can do is try run or jump Shadow Throw - Send in the clone and throw his ass over to me I believe Human Smoke was the Scorpion clone. And robot Smoke was the perfect combination of special moves. Scorpions Spear - If I remember correctly Scorpion usually follows with an uppercut that just happens to be the slowest in game and sometimes gets blocked. Not only is Smoke's tele uppercut a better follow up for more options, but Smoke's regular uppercut is bit more faster than Scorpions Sektors Teleport Uppercut - Wow I can teleport uppercut you and then launch a missle that takes so little damage or is so slow it usually gets blocked, or if I'm Smoke I can teleport uppercut you then harpoon you wich is much faster and then combo your ass into next year. Gee, let me think. Reptiles Invisibility - this was useless on Reptile any way his other moves were either to damn slow (energy orb) or to high and not enough damage (acid spit) not mention these gave him away to easily. And who hell hasn't ever want to blow up the world before COME ON!!!! Its those combination of special moves that made Smoke and Noob Saibot the 2 best characters in MK trilogy if not Mortal Kombat History.

Of course everyone can judge the character now. Lots already have, and by what i've seen in the video, i know EXACTLY how Noob Smoke will be working out, and i HATE it. Theres absolutely no ignorance in anyone if they judge a character they've already SEEN and know about, both via gameplay and looks. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion.

And no one said they wouldnt buy the game because of the Noob Smoke issue. Its just something alot of people care about. You know why we care so much? because its how much we love Smoke/Noob. We're hardcore fans to the point where if something terrible happens to our characters, then we'll show how we feel about it. All the complaining and such isnt about being spoiled, its about how much we like Smoke and Noob. And now since this tag team thing has happened, some of us are terribly dissapointed and we'll show it. For some of us, our 2 favourite characters got ruined in this game.

You cant go around calling people ignorant because of there opinion.

I guess I like the idea ONLY because I am not a fan of these 2 characters.

But when I put myself in the shoes of a Noob Saibot or Smoke fan, I think its terrible.

I wont judge till I play with them, so far, it seems like an interesting idea.

I was very sceptical and didn't want the two to fuse as they could have better storylines being separated. After seeing them in action THEY RULE. I love it. It's something that hasn't been done in a fighting game. Yes it's similar to tag but it isn't. I can't wait to play as them.

I'll admit.. at first I thought the idea was kind of stupid, and I am one of those hardcore Noob/Smoke fans out there, and I was really looking forward to playing as them seperately.. However, now that I have seen them work as a team.. It's awesome.. It's unique.. and I'm sure that they'll have a good story to explain how this happened.. until then.. I'm happy with it.. I'm still gonna buy it.. To me.. this juss adds a little more crazyness in the MK universe

I was a complainer too thinking they were one person, but they are two people still and i like it. They have their own moves. And for one all of you stupid complainers 90% sure you didint see the trailer yet of them in action cause you would change your mind just like all of us that have seen the trailer and now like what we see.
And i know someone that was playing as them,(one of the guys on this forum that goes to the e3 events and post on this forum) that guy was playing noob smoke.

And for one, they DO NOT switch unless you want them too first of all. If you do a certain special move they will double team and switch fighters, if you dont then you play with noob or smoke all game if you want, you dont have to SWITCH, plus they both have 2 fatalitys and you dont have to switch them, they do a Tag TEam fatality which is a first in MK, and their other fatality is a tag team fatality with the other player ex. smoke getting in the the action.

Their hari kari they probably kill each other LOL.
They both have their own moves and weapons and you do not have to switch them and they dont switch if you switch your fighting style only if you type in a special move button that switches them where it turns all smoky and cloudy in the air and poof out comes smoke or noob.

Also in the endings noob will decieve smoke most LIKeLY, and in MK7 they should be separate fighters again. BUt After seeing them together, i kinda wished now that they have a tag mode where you can pick 2 fighters.

Seeing shokan and centaur, sub and scorp, DA, DK and shinnok, kabal and kano, Khan ad DK, sub and smoke, ermac and kenshi, jade and kitana.

Dammit they should have came out with mk tag, but i am almost certain we will be seeing that in mk7.
Also in an old news thing on this forum they were talking about mk7 being for next generation consoles and the konquest mode being in full polygons and downloadable fighters levels and classic outfits. Mk7 will rule, and most of all will most likly have smoke and noob Un-fused.

They wont be stuck togther forever, no its not a problem, i am soo glad this game has everybodys special moves, form sub ice clone, kabals topspin, scorps tele punch, to smokes and noobs moves like shadow ball, shadow slam, INVINSIBLITY is cool isnt it?? smoke will most have his OWN moves this time around, with maybe all 5 to 8 of his special moves will be new and never before seen, and their fatalitys are a FIRST in MK.

Relax after seeing the video they will be just fine.

But looking in your shoes, i can see what can get you upset, the main thing that would have got me upset if i didnt like the idea, was that they were ONCE there own fighter in this game and even had their own icons and now they put them together. Peace out.

OH yea P.s there name isnt Noob smoke, when you play as noob it says noob, when you play as smoke it says smoke, and when they win it says Noob AND smoke Win.

Not noobsmoke wins, noob and smoke wins. peace

If I see one more thread about Noob/smoke I think I'll puke