hahaha, the suspence is killing me...dude wtf, why did you even post this without the scores dude? c'mon i wanna know who won. I didn't think this was ever gunna go down.

Got I hate you, Saleen.
Hell, I beat you 4-3 the other day. I'd be very surprised if MKF lost to you. Besides, would he be crying about Dairou if he won? LOL

i would guess the guy making the post is the one who won.. im just waiting for my questioned answered.

i havnt played mkf in along time but i would find it hard to believe that you beat him red. did you use bo? just post the scores dude.

yeah killer, guess it shows how much ur lag helps.

This was the most anticipated battle?This obviously means more to you Red then it does me lol but I understand why. I anticipated Red bragging because he finally nailed me in two years, good job Red.I won't deny it.Yes, Red beat me.So, you happy ohh jolly now Red?Yes, I beat MKF at long last!!!! lol I didn't semi you, in fact I backed off with Smoke.You on the other hand took every FT and OTG you could get, determined to beat me I see?Yes... lol
It was random fight(meaning I saw you and challenged you last night) and not pre-set Red the reason why I picked anyone, and btw I didn't give you dair every single time as you know.If I cared that much, dair would have been out there a lot more like I used to.But I prefer Kabal now personally.I like him.Still, how many times did you see Dairou?3 times or so? lol I loved your counterpicking though, that was classic.
I have no complaints or requests only for one little thing, next time we play lets just rotate between picking first if you don't mind.I want to see if it makes a difference because I believe it might.I noticed you waited for me to pick my guy last night a lot except for a few times when you picked Bo first once and the time you picked Jinko first.
Thanks for respecting my Kabal though : P
Example, the last match. lol I know my kabal was giving you lots of trouble since you didn't know who to pick against him, I've been picking Kabal a lot more now then Dairou as you noticed, Dairou I like using a few times but not every time now days.
That ermac match was crap on my end, I never should have used a guy that I haven't played with seriously now for the past 5 series against anyone, that was my own fault.But a lose none the less.
N/S matches, ok the matches when I picked him not sure if you noticed or not but the times where I cornered you , I backed off a little but next time I won't, that one match with Noob and Darrius I rememeber staying as Noob while I normally stay as Smoke.I should have trapped you with Smoke, I made quite a few mistakes on my end that I took chances on why I don't know.Guess I wanted to play as Noob for once more then Smoke for a change, the other battles were nothing more then turtle battles.I pick N/S, you pick Kobra.
Also, next time since you reminded me I'm all for no dairou and no bo.Like I asked initially, there was nobody else on.I did just play Dan about 5 minutes before I played you for one match then we disc, but something happened he disappeared.He sent me a FR, I accepted then he was in matches.So, I saw you on since you were the only person on at that time.
BTW, killer B man lol I sent you a lot of invites man after that.But you were in matches with someone, then logged off.Guess you were tired, tonight or tomorrow what ever man lol.It doesn't matter really.I just wanted to let you know that I tried inviting you a bit.No biggy.
Bobby yeah I have to play you also.I'm sure you're beat me also I'm in a slump right now for sure, that I won't deny.Don't mind me I just expect perfection from myself every time I play MK.Those are my own issues though.
BTW, I do give Red credit though for not posting the scores like I figured you would it's fine.I will then, I lost 10-4.First time Red's beaten me.The Bo and Dair matches could have gone either way, I just didn't want any part of broken matches anymore.I figured I'd give you Dairou a few times.
The one thing that always hurts me in MK:D is the fact that I'm not as versatile in this particular MK game with characters, 4 won't get the job done on my end.
A year ago I might have cared more about series like this, but not so much now because MK:A is coming out shortly, MK:D is pretty much dead to me I'll play now for matches but I don't take this shit nearly as serious as I used to when I won a lot more I've noticed.
Granted, everyone has improved however in this case Kabal was giving you lots of trouble I've noticed.I think I'm going to stick to him for now on I think against everyone in general.He seems unpredictable and nobody knows what I'm going to do next with him.
But yeah guys it's the truth, Red did beat me for the first time ever last night fair with FT's and OTG's like I said my only complaint is this, when we play next if it's ok with you, lets rotate the counter picking or picking second.Last night I you waited to see who I picked a lot man lol, that last match when I picked Kabal you went straight to Dairou.Now since you know about tiers like the rest of us, despite who believes Kabal is a good dairou counter, the tiers are no where near each other just like if you pick tanya and I were to pick Dairou.Know what I'm saying?I'm not the douche player that will sit there all day and go to dairou after I put the icon on Scorpion or Kabal or who ever.Once I decide my guy, he's my guy all who played me know by now that I won't play like a scrub with the waiting there all day or picking then go to pick someone else.Seriously, you were really cautious about who I picked first lol.
BTW, I only saw his Dairou once for the record, his Bo a few times.
BTW, Red if I may why are you bragging this much when this is the first time ever you've beaten me in this game in a series?This just proves that you're obsessed with beating me in MK:D and I hardly care lol.
It reminds me of a team who never beat a pitcher, then when they finally do beat him they brag about it.Is that really something to brag about?
Also, hey guys did you notice that there were no "lag" excuses because Red won this time? I just realized this, so let me get this straight, when you happen to lose it's lag...but if you win, it means you did well and it gives you every right to brag about a player you have trouble with no less?Anyone else find this interesting?

lets see my counter picking
me / you
kobra kabal
jinko kabal
kobra n/s
darrius n/s
kobra ermac
tanya kabal
n/s dai
bo dai
bo dai
bo dai
dai kabal
n/s kabal
dont remember the others. on paper match up seem pretty even. u took dai match 8 i took bo match 9, bo didnt come out till u took dai.
kabal gave me probs cause u can attack instantly after d4, u hav no pause after that move, theres suppsoe to be a pause there. kabal won one game, n/s 1, dai 2... how did he give me probs.
it was 5-2 me u went to dai.. made it 5-4... at this point i new how u played all ur guys, u lost next 5. i told u from day 1, i can counter ur roster with ease.
kobra beat ur n/s
jinko beats ur kabal, so did tanya, and n/s
and u cannot beat bo, in a best of.
dont even make it like those match up are sided in my favor.
dai > bo
n/s > darrius
kabal > tanya
n/s > kobra
kobra = kabal
dai> kabal
kobra > ermac

LOL, I didn't pick second a lot, if you taped the matches which I'm sure you did.I would bet that I picked first most of the time, and when I did pick second I didn't go right for an insane match up.
Example, I remember picking twice two times.That one time when you picked Jinko and I picked N/S.Pretty even match up more or less.
The other time, you picked Bo rai cho right off the bat before I picked anyone so I picked Dairou out of no choice pretty much.
I also picked N/S one other time when you went straight to Bo.
The other times, I picked first or you waited to see who I picked.
But I'm hope that Malones request for MK:A convinced the team like he did with the select screen, saying one side is better besides the rest of the fans.But I'm hoping he got to them with the time limit idea on the character select screen, hehe this way no more counterpicking(unless you have fingers like superman) and no more waiting it out to see who your opponent picks first.
To some players this isn't a big deal, but to me it is personally.In a game like Deception, counterpicking makes or breaks this game in totals.
If you pick Dairou or Bo you're going to win a lot against majority of the characters in this game, surely you won't argue that.I'm making a general statement, you know how many times I play guys like styles he sits there waiting to see who I pick, then he picks Bo anyway or N/S then tries to infinite me?Yeah, I want a timer like the old MK's in MK:A select screen, please midway, it'll be better like the older MK's.
BTW, Red I have to hand it to ya you have the dirty Bo down to a T.Congrats, you mastered every glitch with Bo, someone had to do it right?

Hey not to be a dick, but i see you picked from rougly three characters... I highly doubt Red was counterpicking. And like thats anything to complain about with the matchups listed anywho...

LOL@KF coming out of no where...
Dude, then even more so shit everyone knows I can only use 4 guys in this game, yet why feel the need to counterpick me or sit there waiting?And you're wrong btw about him NOT counterpicking or picking second a lot.
It's all good though, this game is becoming more dead as each day passes, I have my eyes set on MK:A and UMK3, then it's really on.
MK:D is how do you say, a way to kill my time for the time being, when this game was hot, hot, hot I held my own or beat most players so I really won't go nuts about this one time, just stating a fact that if the newer MK's were like the older ones with the character time limit, a lot of this shit online would stop in general.That's all I'm saying.

first u had the more match ups in ur favor. 2nd i only took bo when u picked dai. ur n/s wouldnt put up a fight to bo. and if it was like the old mks, who cares about a time limit, u wouldnt know who i was picking, so time wouldnt mater.

What the fuck do you expect? 90% of the decent threads in this forum are closed... Not that this is a decent thread by any means.
And what the fuck else do you expect? Me to come in here all buddy buddy cuz red picked some bad matchups for himself?
This is a joke right?

maybe if u read, i brought up ur lag in the 2nd post. u cant t/s under the 58er, u did.
u had no delay after d4, only reason why ur kabal gove anyone probs.
and ur n/s corner trap is so safe, no push away after u4, makes in a semi.
so dont say i ddint complain about lag. u just didnt capitalize enough on it.
first time i ever beat u???? u would never play me. u played me once in 2004, that was the last time, and the night i first u tanya only for 4 games unde a new name. which u used dai twice and n/s... didnt fare to well vs her last night.
u take dai away from this game, and ur claim to fame in the past is nothing. i proved i dont need bo. and i also proved ur dai is a non factor. u can beat up on 22 other characters , but bring bo in and ur dai will lose 85% of the time. alls i need vs u is ash, jinko, kobra. where was this f1 spaming scorp??? and the great ermac, ???? i was gonna take scorp vs ur ermac

lol, saleen is talking mad shit. so...where are the vids of 'the most anticipated battle'??? please tell me you at least got bo vs. dai games.

no vids, maybe he has them. i dont hav a capping device at the moment as i hav posted earlier in the week.
im not talking shit bobby, counter picking would be me taking bo vs tanya. take away ur dai which would hav got bo everytime if i didnt go one space to far. leaves u with n/s and kabal.. he had the adv is more games, so how was counter picking even brought up, cause i picked 2nd, we hav been throuhg this, we pick 2nd so u dont take dai. u take dai vs anyone besides bo and its unfair.

I want to play you guys sometime tonight if possible
I haven't played since Doohoo and Groy kicked my ass but hey I'm down for some games

Dude, I have no clue as to what you're talking about seriously man.You're random a lot.Not necessarily a bad thing just random.BTW, I remember you asking me to not mention your name of players I've faced, I did that.Now I must ask you something, please talk to me when I'm addressing you literally.I have no problem with you but I want to keep it that way, get my drift?
And Red's picks weren't bad, what are you talking about? lol
Red, I never had the lead on you.I beat you the first match, 1-0 me wow that's the lead?Are you kidding man? lol
I still had a lot of matches left either way.
I played you with the intentions of good matches, not the obsession you have with me of "beating MKF" at any cost.
You beat me this time, lag was on both sides so please no lag essays.I will go all out next time we playmeaning all FT's and all OTG's not just limited ones, despite who wins, I'll make sure the score is at least closer.
Bobby, don't worry man I expect Red to talk smack....I don't care about this game that much anymore win or lose.It's broken, and it gets old after a while.One of the reasons why I stopped picking Dairou the past 4 months often compared to when I used to End of story.
Perhaps I should pick Scorpion against you next time, I think I would have a better shot with him then Ermac for sure, scorp's hapkido is awesome indeed.
I would still love to see how you play games like MK2 and UMK3 Red, since those games have no FT's, limited OTG's that rarely present themself and infinites that will make you pull your hair out trying to pull them off, to rely on.I really do one day hope to play you in UMK3 for the 360, not just because I love the game and go on and on about it, but because I want to see how players like you do in games like that.
But I believe you said, that won't happen MKF because you're afraid of lag.Hey, what ever man that's your problem not mine dude.
But hey, like I said you got the dirty Bo down.I'm sure HB, Styles would be proud man.

i dont hav a 360, and i wont get one unless mka is backwards playable, and 360 is vga ready also.
ur right mk2 and mk3 didnt hav fts and otgs. why do u compare these games. u play and adapt to the game on how its suppsoe to be played. i havent played mk2 or 3 competitive in 10 yrs. but when i did i played how it was played.
run jabs, sweeps. eliminating the jumping game ... cross overs into combos and jab, sweeps.
p.s here on long island mk2 and 3 were played with throws disabled. (alwasy) its a totally different game when throws are on.
u want more games, use scorp and ermac, and u will get more cast
kang
havik
kenshi
scorp
sub
hotaru
baraka
ermac
sindel
kabal
when playing ur kabal, i need a guy who can reach u off a blocked u2.
scorp
havik
kang would work
but ill take ashs f1, for the 50/50 which lead to her free throw. i no exactly how u play ur guys, and no exaclty and what style of guys to use to counter.
and i got all of that out of 2 game vs each guy. u lost the last 5. cause i new what u were gonna do.

Ok, so you played the older games apparently.That's good, but why let online bother you?I mean you do always point out lag on Deception(which IMO can be arguably worse at times) then say the older MK's which are 2D.
But that would be fun to play old MK without throws, I could go either way personally.It doesn't matter.I'm not complaining about FT's or OTG's only saying that since they're not in the older MK's it's a totally different ballgame obviously.
But I'm hoping MK:A will be UMK3 to MK2, know what I mean?Like MK2 and UMK3 were both 2D, however major improvements were made once UMK3 came out even MK3 to MK2.The engine wasn't changed dramatically or anything yet UMK3 was a much better game then MK2 gameplay wise.
So, I think MK:A will be a lot better then MK:D.The key to this game will be parries, at least one of them anyway.
BTW, are you saying you're only give me more matches if I pick those guys you said? lol I won't pick Dairou if you don't want me to, you have the edge from a character point of view man lol.I'm not nearly as versatile in this game as I am in the older MK's.
But that will change once MK:A hits shelves, thank god everyone is in that game.
Hey alex, you still want to master 64 characters man?
You still play?

im saying u arent gonna get the b team vs n/s and ony a few wiill keep up with kabal. scorp id use b team.. i can play scorp to.

Funny how when you complain about lag it's 100% legit, but if someone else brings it up it's didn't effect the game enough.
I'm going to show the series where I beat you 4-3 last week, and you tell the world where lag effected you SO MUCH that it made you lose those 4 games. I mean it must be terrible lag if I suck and beat your ass right? Just like you were saying above, even if it does make you miss a hit or 2, does that mean it was that bad you would lose that many games? That's why you're so annoying. Lag can only be YOUR excuse. It can't be someone elses. Then you say even if there was some, it couldn't be enough to really make that much of a difference. Well I know when we played, it seemed REALLY smooth to me until the 8th game, which I was winning too. You are the official MKO HYPOCRITE. Enjoy your new title dork.

Someone(1) in this thread has some weird ass issues...

Kid

Ten bucks this guy is talking about me lol..^^
Killer B btw I'll play you either tonight or tomorrow dude.Don't worry we have time, lol.
Red, I wasn't aware you have an A.Team a B.team and a C.team lol.
I don't have enough for a team in this game, however in MK:A you guys can count on it.

Well, i find all of this interesting. A little bit too much reading for my eyes though. I guess i have the jizz of it ;P Thanks for coming clean MKF and saying you lost fairly. If he did pull that shit on you, im sorry but you must pull that shit back on him. I agree with the imaginary rule thing. I dont care about free throws. OTG's bother me but not free throws.
Good job to both of you and as always i enjoy playing both of you. Completely different techiniques.