alright,i have to give my two cents...
haha. i think red you are taking this too seriously. I totaly respect you because we have always played good games but come on. all MKF did was admit defeat(which i respect) and point out somethings he would like different for the next series. and then you still jump down his back.
i think yall should let it go. let the rivalry wait till MKA comes out. Red, it is like Dewane Wade challanging Michael Jordan to a game of basketball. Mike is retired and although is still good he is NOT in his prime. and you are still playing this game as much as always. making vids and all that.
all i can say is let it go.!!!
ok comence fight...my two cents
-Peace

see mesofly ur arguement is invaild. mkf s clain to fame revolved around glory came frim his dai. he use dai vs everyone, and now the top players use bo vs his dai and make his dai no effective, leaving him with n/s and kabal. n/s is tier 3, take a guy with a fireball and now hes left with kabal, take a guy with a quick launch,,, and now it comes down to match up... u match up those type of guys vs mkf he cant win.. but since he only uses 3 guys, now its counter picking.
its like saying if he takes n/s me taking kang, kobra, hotaru, jinko is counter picking.
hes not rusty, people just smartened up and his style is outdated. people found the dai counter.
as far as killer b, u use 2 guys,,,,, how about this, i pick 2 guy only.... than u will say well u hav to use god tiers,,, not my fault u decided to learn ermac and nightwolf.. u showing ur vids means shit, cause what u see on ur screen is not on mine. u cannot buffer a lift after a missed d2 with ermac. FACT,
nightwolfs axe stance has delays after misses, yet urs dont... 2 3 blocked, u should be wide open for a goood 10 frames , yet u arent, thats where ur lag comes into play.. and when that shit starts happening, u get bo / dai, jinko.
mkf lags also, like i said he didnt capitalize enuff... his charaters fts and otgs are limited abd dont do enough damage.
funny how i hav no prob keeping up with strech, doohoo. etc... but ur 100% predictable nightwolf can win. why CAUSE I CANT BLOCK AND COUNTER, how hard is that for u to understand.
its liem saying i can f3 u sating on ur toes, u block and u cant counter. thats what u do with ur guys.
next time u will get full force god tiers, if thats what u want.

That has counter picking written all over it.

Always love reading your posts!
I seriously can't understand why folks still wanna kill for MKD. The whole thing becomes old news in less than 2months. Guys, let's try and put some perspective into how seriously we take MKD. IT'S OVER!
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BTW, Sup MKF!
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Uhh, can we just post the damn scores!!?
Or post the damn videos... which ever you'd prefer.

he did 10-4 me,, no vids unless he has them.

its not counter picking when he uses 3 guys. why would i pick a matchup thats unfair. all the matches i picked were even or in his favor, so get a clue.
dai vs kabal was only one i had major adv, and it was the only game i took dai, he had dai vs n.s.... kabal can beat dai .

You can still counter pick, the fact that I use 4 guys doesn't mean anything.And your kabal never beat my dairou, what are you talking about?You never even picked Kabal.In fact the last match you counterpicked my Kabal with Dairou lol.What does that tell you? Obviously, I'm not the only one that feels that way then Red.
No, sorry B N R, btw what's up man?I have no vids either.
I figured Red would have been bragging about each match by now, I'm shocked.
I lost, I admit it only thing like I said is that the counter picking gig should go both ways, all I'm saying.
BTW, I don't lag that bad Red, you're the only person to say I really, really lag for the record and I've played Quest, Killer B etc these guys live on the other side of the country, yet I'm ok with them most of the time.
Lag will happen no matter where you go sometimes, it happens.I told you this before man, if you HATE lag and obviously you do, then just don't play online.Your dedication to MK over powers your hatred for lag apparently since you're still playing.
Also, MeSOFLY brings up a good point, no I'm not stiff rusty, however when I was in my prime with the characters I use I won more I noticed, until 06 this year, I was very, very difficult to beat.I think I'm having a bad year compared to 05 and 04 in MK:D, I won't make excuses but I clearly see that I'm struggling at times this year for what ever reason, it happens.I don't care that much though because MK:D is near dead and thank god for that because A.I'm getting bored with it a little B.This game isn't as hot as it was and C.MK:A and UMK3 are coming out which means adios MK:D.
But seriously Red, you seem to have a little obsession with players that give you trouble I've noticed.If you're complaining about someone like styles or Milfhunter, I agree but I don't play like them I just gave you a hard time every time we played until the other day in 2 years.
But at this point, I think everyone has beaten everyone just about in a series except a few players I can think of against other players.
You act as if I said I'm the best player ever in Deception, I never said that.All I said was for majority of this game on live I had the best dairou(even if I don't have the best one anymore) I still had the best for the longest period of time on xbox live, end of story.It sucks that I can only use 4 or 5 guys, however that one fact is something that I'll hold on to until MK:A comes out, I'm confident that I can be on that top dairou list if I wanted, but like I said he's really broken, too easy to win with most of the time and I like Kabal now.I still use Dairou obviously but I don't believe I use him as well as I used to when I picked nothing but dairou.I might want get my name on that dairou list though perhaps.
If I picked Bo, I would be even better but I just don't like the character with the exception of his brokenness, he sucks IMO.Lets just say for my taste, I like fast guys with unblockable moves sometimes or the ninja like characters.That's just a personal preference but it's also from a gameplay point of view also.
I give full credit to Groy, you and stretch because you guys weren't at this level a year ago, yet then I was more difficult if I got beat in a series also.Now, it seems almost everyone has detected my style.Since I use 4 guys, it's not that hard if you think about it.
Again, this is where I admit that using not that many characters hurts players like myself.
I know I would be a better player if I played more guys, I know killer would be a better player if he player more guys but it doesn't always happen.
MK:D IMO offers a mediocre cast, unbalanced cast with Bo, Dairou, N/S, Kobra and Jinko IMO(these guys dominate the game at high level against other characters where a game like UMK3 or even MK2 was much more balanced in general.It's weird, MK:DA and MK:D are the only two games where I can only use 4 or less characters, not sure what it is.I guess the styles of the other characters don't fit my style.I have a feeling this is the reason perhaps as far as I'm concerned because the older MK's I use a lot of characters, at least 8 to 12 characters as oppose to 3 in MK:DA and 4 in MK:D.
But that will change in MK:A for sure since everyone is in it, I can't wait to build my arsenal and having more versatility in MK:A compared to MK:D.
If the game is balanced which I believe it will be more then Deception then that's even better.
BTW, I can't wait to play MK:A's KAK hehehe, I will get creative with that indeed.

Red just leave MKF alone flamming him is old now besides, he's manned up and played the people who wanted to play him including yourself so this entire thread is pointless. You are looking real lame right now talking about nothing your posts make no sense. He played you, you beat him move on. Yeah it was wierd that he ducked us for so long but he finally played us so there is nothing to flame him about or argue with him about anymore. You dig???

Red, I don't care what characters you play. AND I never said I was better than you. I'm just trying to understand why "I suck." I beat you with those guys and you WERE playing your hgh tier characters. So even when you do I win sometimes. BUT THEN, it's lag. I suppose that every single series you win there is no lag, and ever single series i win there is? C'mon, it's funny how when you beat me badly you come on here saying how you whooped my butt, and the second I win a small series, it's LAG. I mean, there's just no way to get a compliment or some credit in this situation. Apparently I'm upgrading and downgrading my cable modem connection each time we play. You're an idiot.

Why do people still believe that not playing MK means I'm ducking everyone?For the record, if that were the case I wouldn't have played anyone else on this board ever again but that won't get me anywhere.I win, I lose sometimes just like anyone else. I'll play anyone, unless they're like Styles or that guy Milf hunter I don't mind playing anyone.
I also love it how when someone beats MKF now, they brag and brag about it.lol, I'm flattered.

How many characters a person uses has nothing to do with counter picking. The person could use only 2 characters, it doesn't matter. The fact that you wait for him to pick first is, so you have the luxury of deciding which character is best for the fight while he does not.
You can argue it all you want, but the first post of yours that I quoted more than showed you're a counter picker. You actually boast about knowing which characters to pick to take his characters down, but yet that relies on him picking first. Yea, do the math.

Wow. 22 months after the game was released - I'm glad to see people aren't still taking it too seriously.

i wait to make sure no dai is cooming, dai ONLY get bo, has to be that way.
killer, answe me this, post your total games and ur dissconns??? u hav a fucking shiity conn vs me, what is so hard to understand, u hav never had a series with me where it does not dissconn, everytime we play we disco. u lag vs me bad.
i get 1 disco every 150 games aprox, so its not my conn its urs.
i hav my counter for ur super safe nightwolf, and its a free throwing ash.

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VERY VERY WELL SAID..................................................

Druged up Alcoholics don't have much to say do they dirtface?

Pimpled faced goobers always tryin ta be heard huh GEEK ..LOL

^ lol @ this loser still calling people geeks when he's posting on MKO, too.
Anyway, Red didn't counter pick MKF at all. "You pick first and then I pick first" is fucking stupid and beyond scrubby. Just play who you want to fucking play.

Believe me, even on MKO there is a VAST spectrum on the level of geekiness. Red is definitely in the red on that one. LOL

Oh, so you didn't beat me 12-0 about 2 months ago and quit? As usual your memory and excuses show one thing in common, they're both flawed. You're so stupid.

YAWNNNNSSSS!
Just when I thought MK:A is being released in less than 2 months, I see folks who still wanna kill and proof a point on MKD. Very nice!
Let it go guys.
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Truth hurts huh??? G E E K LOL
Yea sure I post,, Like once or twice a month... Oh and just cuz you post here doesnt make you a nerd,, Theres alot of coo cats here....You on the other hand OMG,, For a highschool kid.. you truly have n0 life... Ill just leave it at that.. Socially inept.... haha
Trax... You've got the right idea brotha,, Fools should just let it go already..
Go ahead RED, Close thread...

im not a mod i cant close threads, if i was, i would prob ban the entire mka forum.

Please, anyone who feels that counter picking in THIS game means nothing knows nothing.
People bitched to me when I used to pick second with dairou or N/S or who ever, yet when it's done to me it's not counterpicking? Gemini brings up good points, Red admitted that he picks second for a reason...ummm did he not say that in the quote that gemini posted?
Shit, I can tell you from fact and experience that when I used to pick nothing but dairou, yeah..umm it means something because this game's tiers are so out of wack it's ridiculous.Take Malone's kira for example, against Red's Bo.Ok, Malone has beaten Reds bo recently but a few things to consider, one according to the post they were both drunk, two in more often then not Bo will beat Kira in a series with two top players and three that's a perfect example of tier in this game and why it's so bad.
I hope they fix this for MK:A since there's even MORE characters.
Anyway, I know when I have picked second in the past.
Yet when someone does it to me, ohh it's not counterpicking yet if I pick dai or Kabal second, ohh MKF is counter picking?BS
Red openly admitted that he's cautious of my Kabal and Dairou.So, he'll pick the character that's best to counter them with.
This game isn't UMK3, that game I would say it doesn't really matter who you pick for the most part, but his game? ha, ha it means something.
Whether you win or lose, the match ups in this game since it's totally not balanced means something indeed.