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09/10/2007 07:00 PM (UTC)
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Atari I use what you are saying with the 3,1 and they land on there feet.

After i played you once i tried to learn how you did it. I use 1,2instead of 3,1 but it does the same thing. The extra hit makes everyone drop faster so they don't see it coming.

Though sometimes when you do it is too fast and it turns into a ft. My observation.

You say you so 332cs? The only ac i know is 112 1134 cs or 112 114cs.

Are there more?
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09/10/2007 08:36 PM (UTC)
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33 is the best way to go. There really is no point in the other A/C unless you want to do it strictly for fun. Comp wise 33 is the way to go and honestly I find it pretty tricky and extremly fun to pull off. Especially with people like Jade, SubZero, Kung in first stance, Cryax etc.. Ashrah I can only get when someone is jumping in at my while i try to jump away or visa versa.
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09/10/2007 10:28 PM (UTC)
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Sorry MeSo - its actually 1,3 not 3,1 my bad.

try using jinko or nightwolf and doing a deep 1,3. Its much faster than than what you are doing. Its very hard for me to time it really late online vs most connections, but when I can, it is very close to a ft. I even stop myself sometimes so it wont be a semi....but most people can attack, backflip, or duck to avoid the throw...so I use it as a 50/50 with his silly broken mids.

3,3,2,CS works with a few characters. You have to land 3 air hits first for it to work....

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09/10/2007 10:31 PM (UTC)
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33 is not the way to go....dont get me wrong..i do it for fun and theres many variations of nice stuff you can do to showboat....but the real damage is done on the ground my friend.
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09/11/2007 03:03 AM (UTC)
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Nice find Atari!

Well, if I am going to do air stuff you are going to see me 33 and maximize damage that way, there are some really cool things you can do with 33, i like to do 33,11,33 whatever just for fun and mix it up at times. For instance Kai, 11,11,11 is the way to go for him, I don't think you can 33, or 22,
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09/11/2007 05:53 PM (UTC)
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wugeneral Wrote:
33 is not the way to go....dont get me wrong..i do it for fun and theres many variations of nice stuff you can do to showboat....but the real damage is done on the ground my friend.


WOW, someone else that feels the same way I do lol. Yeah, if you're someone that uses 33 and AC that's fine I guess but I think some people rely on that personally because they lack a good ground game.

I use a lot of MKD/MK:DA tactics in MKA and do very well most of the time with it but everyones different, some like ground game, others don't. Some like 33/AC, some don't. Some like picking some bosses, some don't.

That jump kick into moves I find more interesting then the 33/ac stuff, but I don't even do that. I once in a while do the ermac jump kick into slam.
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09/11/2007 06:20 PM (UTC)
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MEsoFLY Wrote:
Atari I use what you are saying with the 3,1 and they land on there feet.

After i played you once i tried to learn how you did it. I use 1,2instead of 3,1 but it does the same thing. The extra hit makes everyone drop faster so they don't see it coming.

Though sometimes when you do it is too fast and it turns into a ft. My observation.

You say you so 332cs? The only ac i know is 112 1134 cs or 112 114cs.

Are there more?



shujinko - 112 12 works .

havik - 112 12

noob 112 11 first stance

ashra 112 11 first stance , ashras is nasty

liu kang - 112 12

carachters like liu havik shujinko have the same one with its weapon stance , but carachters like noob and ashara use 11 to cancel it .

my favortie 50 / 50 goes to kung lao . check this out

113cs jump 11212 F1 first stance pop up jump 1 in first stance drop grab or repeat .




and here by releasing my smokey secrets wink

11 with smoke , you can ether pop up twice d1124cs for a 46 percent or 11 drop grab . both work good , you have to time them differently .

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09/11/2007 07:18 PM (UTC)
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Yes i use havik like that too. I think it all does the same thing. Makes for a good 50 50

Just like MKD
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09/11/2007 11:17 PM (UTC)
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Krazy - Jinko 1,2 works also. I use 1,3 in weapon. Pretty much the same results. I think you can use 3,1 in his firstance if you time it right. I find that by intentionally doing wrong inputs for an air combo, the recovery or animation changes.


Yeah I noticed you using 1,1 with smoke. Good shit. Online, I have been doing 3,3 after his pop up. Offline I use 3,3,1. I think 1,1 is better because if you miss I dont think they can roll or wake up. I think. Gotta check it out. I have been doing it with Kai but he sucks so bad its rather usless.
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09/12/2007 01:35 AM (UTC)
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@Krazy
What do you mean...
ashra 112 11 first stance , ashras is nasty ??
How do you do her A/C
she has no 33 :(
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09/12/2007 02:43 AM (UTC)
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see mkf these are the asshole comments u make. we dont use 33 cause we lack a ground game, we use 33 cause it gets u maxium damage. if i launch someone and im skilled enough where i know i can land 33 no matter what connection, than why the fuck would i go for a dial on the ground that will give me 20% less damage. if i wanted to play like half the pussys on xbla, i would do one 33 combo, and run away for the remaining time.

in ur holy grail umk3, do u go for the weak damage combos??? No u go for max damage.
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09/12/2007 04:49 AM (UTC)
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Quest2be1 Wrote:
@Krazy
What do you mean...
ashra 112 11 first stance , ashras is nasty ??
How do you do her A/C
she has no 33 :(


jump up after a pop up 112 11 = 50/50 .
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09/12/2007 03:39 PM (UTC)
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quite fun games to atari last night!

lots of variety in characters and plenty of mind games. also, you had no problem with air cancels (you triple ac'd me no problem!) next time try the shujinko ones too. you crushed my sheeva. she was no match for quan- being careful about her weapons and not being able to tap block quickly really screws her over.
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09/12/2007 11:10 PM (UTC)
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krayziebonethug Wrote:
Quest2be1 Wrote:
@Krazy
What do you mean...
ashra 112 11 first stance , ashras is nasty ??
How do you do her A/C
she has no 33 :(


jump up after a pop up 112 11 = 50/50 .


so for instance.. F+1, then jump 112 11 ??
umm okay i dont get it. LOL please explain it to me I would definitely like to know as she is my best girly.
thanks thanks
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09/13/2007 12:21 AM (UTC)
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Yes Quest you are right.

f1 in first or b1 in weapon...jump...112 (bounce back) 11.

If you end the combo there you will both drop to the ground at the same time. BUT you will both be on your feet. They can either parry, jump, duck or what ever but the point is they don't expect it.

So at first with ashrah...you pop them up, 112 11 (you both drop) you grab them again because they don't expect it. After grab do 112 11(Drop) but this time do a mid pop up because they think you will throw. Etc...and continue on.

Play me and i will show you. I see you on now.
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09/13/2007 12:56 AM (UTC)
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please do show me. Thanks MESOFLY you are my boyfriend too. lol, i think i have a lot of boyfriends. I can name them if you want :)
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09/13/2007 03:10 AM (UTC)
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redsaleen02 Wrote:
see mkf these are the asshole comments u make. we dont use 33 cause we lack a ground game, we use 33 cause it gets u maxium damage. if i launch someone and im skilled enough where i know i can land 33 no matter what connection, than why the fuck would i go for a dial on the ground that will give me 20% less damage. if i wanted to play like half the pussys on xbla, i would do one 33 combo, and run away for the remaining time.

in ur holy grail umk3, do u go for the weak damage combos??? No u go for max damage.


Awee did I offend you some how with a simple general comment? Poor Red...

Why am I an "asshole" because I stated the truth about the flaws of the game? The same game that you rip Midway and rant on about yet you abuse the glitches yourself? hmmmm you know I can understand a player that hates them and doesn't use them, but someone that bitches about "the brokenness" yet relies on them? That's just weak if you ask me.

Different players feel differently, and funny I didn't even mention UMK3...you did? I was talking about MKA. LMAO...

I guess I said something that "offended" you or you're mad because I beat the snot out of you AND you relied on glitches and STILL lost...

Notice you're the only one here who took that totally wrong and took it way out of proportion...red. I didn't mention your name, didn't mention UMK3...you did.

Guess I offended your "glitch game pride" with that comment...man you took a simple comment like that like an "asshole" wink


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09/13/2007 04:07 AM (UTC)
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no u just show ur stupidity. 33 is not midways fault, they cant control people who use ghetto connections like yourself. great conenctions equal no 33.

and like ive said, u dont use any charcters who require 33.

i dont 33 with ermac, fujin, jarek, either. why cause they dont need it.

mka isnt trash, online play is trash... mka play great offline, NO FRAME/LAG ADVANTAGE safe bullshit, eqauls good mk game. online eqauls, skillless, safeness bullshit.
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09/13/2007 01:14 PM (UTC)
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Okay I am not coming in between you two because its just crazy you two still go back and forth all the time. Maybe you are both right and maybe you are both wrong. I dunno and honestly don't care.

However, nobody I mean nobody has a better connection than eazytobeat and I. We can A/C back and forth all day long like we were offline. However, we can also 33 all day long as well, we just have to wait till when it looks like it is going to be too late to connect and voila it works everytime :)
33 is not connection limited nearly as much as A/C's. 33's are the way to go in my opinion and plus I do find them more fun and challenging. If i could just get my stupid jumpkick to combos down I would be real happy :)
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09/13/2007 03:19 PM (UTC)
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I thought i saw you get off Quest. Next time you see me on we will try this stuf out a little.
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09/13/2007 08:04 PM (UTC)
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redsaleen02 Wrote:
no u just show ur stupidity. 33 is not midways fault, they cant control people who use ghetto connections like yourself. great conenctions equal no 33.

and like ive said, u dont use any charcters who require 33.

i dont 33 with ermac, fujin, jarek, either. why cause they dont need it.

mka isnt trash, online play is trash... mka play great offline, NO FRAME/LAG ADVANTAGE safe bullshit, eqauls good mk game. online eqauls, skillless, safeness bullshit.


Yeah, if I'm so so stupid then how can I beat someone that CLAIMS to be better and able to take out "the great glitch" master with ease in our last meeting..?hmmm Seriously, I'm one of the few players that living proof that you DON'T need it online. I just use 50/50, pokes, turtling and basics to win. Fuck that glitch shit...only reason you like it OFFLINE is because there's no lag and you can keep your foe up in the air all day with AC Kung Lao, Havik etc.

Dude admit it, get some skill instead of abusing glitches and relying on them to win in every MK game. No wonder you don't play UMK3....honestly if you played people on here offline and still lost what excuse would you make up? MKD played well online and you mentioned lag back then, need I remind you the many back and forth arguments you and I & killer b had on that one? We could have wrote a book between the 3 of us on that topic alone...

I can use characters that use it, point is I DON'T need to unlike others...primarily you. *sigh* again with the lag...dude they WHY play online? LMAO...lag happens in every game, it just sucks more in MKA. Adapt or don't play online, no point in bitching about it...

I don't get you, you hate online, hate lag yet you play online. Are you aware of how that sounds?

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09/13/2007 09:41 PM (UTC)
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i play online cause there are no such thing as um arcades.

50/50 liek you??? sorry i cant spam moves that are unsafe and make them 100% safe.

like kabals u2, go plug ur bxo into a real connection like richs, and try to play ur kabal that way... u wont be able to cause u2 will get 100% punished like mine.
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09/14/2007 02:10 AM (UTC)
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redsaleen02 Wrote:
i play online cause there are no such thing as um arcades.

50/50 liek you??? sorry i cant spam moves that are unsafe and make them 100% safe.

like kabals u2, go plug ur bxo into a real connection like richs, and try to play ur kabal that way... u wont be able to cause u2 will get 100% punished like mine.


Dude I played Kabal the same exact way in MKD, perhaps a little different due to the branch combos in that game as oppose to MKA but still, the only key difference is that Kabal can dash from JK(which you tried to do to me a 100 times) and he lost his free throw as well as his other style.

I just turtle with him, online in MKA most will tell you that turtling is key in this game. You should know this by now Red seriously...especially with certain characters.

Perhaps you're all offense, IMO I think turtling is key to winning in MKA. Not saying it works for all players but some it's a key element.

And ummm, dude I beat you WELL enough without Kabal. That ermac vs. your scorpion, all I was doing was weapon combos...can you say PARRY? Jarek vs. your Kabal, again...parry your dashes by simply anticipating them isn't hard to do against anyones connection. I just adapted to your "pattern" It's not rocket science to block and counter. I missed some things against you also but just made up for them with other moves I knew would hit you.

I suppose that's lag too and my connection right? right...

Fujin vs. your Kabal that I managed against, umm just in case you don't know YOU had a big edge in that match with the tiers alone. I honestly didn't expect to win that one match but some how I did. Let me guess..lag made you lose? The reality is this, I simply parried your "mad frequent dashes" that were so predictable after a while. Hell, everyone that watched the vids of us even said this.

Lag card will only go so far, eazy, pumpkin, pig and chaos lag for me when I play them but eazy and pig I just adapted to. Pumkin's improved a lot, we can play now. Bobby I have no problem what so ever and chao's is just crap IMO. Had to be the worst second only to gigabug IMO.

You just have to learn to adapt.

And as for arcades...they've been dead for a while now, nobody goes anymore with the exception of a tournament here, tournament there....that's why god invented online play. Either play it or don't.

BTW, get a DS so I can play you in UMK3.

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
WARNING:possibility of lag always there ESRB says, due to online play gameplay might vary. : )
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09/14/2007 02:39 AM (UTC)
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LOL, parry, u think i didnt try... no i just let go of block every time after 13.. i couldnt parry... whats that tell u.

u2 is not safe no matter how u want to look at it. ur was, mine isnt... what part of what happens on ur screen isnt what happens on others.

u adjusted vs easy??? u got beat done from what i read.

ds??? u just posted how u can arrange games on richs 360, now i have to get a ds.?? if u think beating someone in umk3 over ds counts as legit, than LOL.


halloween is comming up, making a kabal outfit this yr??
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09/14/2007 04:10 AM (UTC)
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ewwwww, lmao on that one. You two are funny, Hold Hands!
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