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posted12/03/2004 09:13 AM (UTC)by
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Eradicator18
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11/01/2004 02:16 AM (UTC)
I want throws taking out of the next MK games. The are Really Fucking Cheap! They are totaly unfair since the can not be blocked or countered. People who use nothing but throws to win fights are totaly unskilled so they have to resort to this cheap methoid to win. I'm gotting really sick of loseing matches because my opprenet does nothing but throws.I know you can use beakers to stop them but then you wasted one of your combo breakers. which I say should reset back to three after each round.furious
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JuN23
11/03/2004 02:13 AM (UTC)
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stfu?? they're easily countered... talk about noob?? try ducking, lowblocking, uppercutting
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11/03/2004 11:10 AM (UTC)
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JuN23 Wrote:
stfu?? they're easily countered... talk about noob?? try ducking, lowblocking, uppercutting
moron

First, I myself have occasionally experienced a glitch where even when I duck low after a hit, I can get thrown. So, there are some people who take advantage of it to the degree of being complete throw whoring c*cksuckers.
Second, not every throw can be countered, which makes some characters broken, which adds to MKD's gameplay flaws.
So even though I agree that they are for the most part avoidable, nobody's completely immune to a fucker whoring the shit out of you with them as you suggested in your response.
Simple solution. If someone throws you, just respond in kind while still doing all that you can to avoid them.wink
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USMCOgre
11/03/2004 07:33 PM (UTC)
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Damn this is a gay thread. If you don't like them, don't play the damn game. Plain and simple. Deal with whats in the game, or go play something else.
I'm tired of pussies crying about throws, death traps, too many low moves (yes, I've heard that one before).
Quit your bitching. There are no rules to the damn game. You should use the tools that the developers gave you to play with.
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11/04/2004 01:22 AM (UTC)
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Or blame the developers for screwing up the game rather than blame the players.
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JuN23
11/04/2004 02:06 AM (UTC)
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USMCOgre exactly, thanks...
and the game isn't "screwed up"... maybe it's your skills that are "screwed up"
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USMCOgre
11/04/2004 02:07 AM (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger Wrote:
Or blame the developers for screwing up the game rather than blame the players.

No kidding. All these cry baby bitches crying about players, how bout blame the half assed morons who made the game. As a player I'll do what it takes to win short of using a cheat device. Maybe all you scrubs who are tired of getting owned all day long should try the same.
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11/04/2004 09:52 PM (UTC)
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JuN23 Wrote:
USMCOgre exactly, thanks...
and the game isn't "screwed up"... maybe it's your skills that are "screwed up"

What do you call a bunch of easy infinites found within a few weeks of release, glitches that allow players to actually fly across the screen, bad hit detection, many useless moves, no throw escapes, one throw per character, no frame advantage so everything is punishable on block? I don't know about anyone else but I call that screwed up. Why don't you?
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brizzo
11/07/2004 05:30 PM (UTC)
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USMCOgre, excellent attitude. No wonder you are in the marine corps -- you have been taught not to question anything. "If you don't like throws, don't play the game, pussy!" "If you don't like America, leave, pussy!"
This guy is just saying that he gets frustrated by people that constantly throw him. You could help him out by telling him how to avoid it, or you could continue to be an ass and tell him to stop whining, without offering any help.
Fact is, most throws can be ducked and countered. But people that constantly use throws and infinites to win are missing out on the fun of the game. You are probably one of them.
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11/07/2004 06:44 PM (UTC)
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You're a big hippocrite to say that he's not questioning anything while you along with many others are not questioning the MK team itself for half assed game design. Look around. So many posts about "so and so does this" and "so and so cheats by doing this" but not one not ONE says "Midway really did a crappy job allowing players to do this". Listen closely. It is MIDWAY's fault that throws are abusable. Point the finger where it belongs and at least make the attempt to let Midway know that you expect more out of MK7. Ed Boon himself has said that this site has influence on MK. So rather than kissing Midway ass and asking for more fatalities people need to do something constructive and ask for throw escapes.
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11/07/2004 10:45 PM (UTC)
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A hippocrite is someone that critizes, then turns around and does the very same thing. I'm calling ogre out for saying "If you don't like throws, don't play the game...I'm tired of pussies crying about throws". Ogre is a pussy because he can't stand to hear anyone else (besides himself) criticize the game. "Deal with it or leave" is a bad attitude...I think this is the point you are making, also -- we SHOULD criticize it, so that Midway can improve MK7. "deal or leave" is the attitude of a pussy.
You could help eradicator out by telling him some counters to throws...they do exist. Throws have always been this way...even in MK I and MK II. They aren't "broken" just because breakers don't work against them.
I agree with you that there are other parts of MKD that could have been done better, like the infinites available, or the 50/50 game. Never did I say the game was perfect. If you think you were the first guy to figure that out on this board, think again.
And if you think I'm kissing midway's ass, you are wrong...read my post. Never did I say that the game couldn't be improved.
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11/08/2004 12:30 AM (UTC)
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Ok. And although I may not have been the first person on these boards to talk about Midway's design problems, I have been doing it for over a year now along with only a handful of others. Maybe around ten to fifteen people that I can think of off the top of my head. A very small number. That's what pisses me off. That after a year's worth of talking about what was wrong with DA and what could possibly go right or wrong with Deception, now there's tons of people complaining about what happens in online play. In my mind I'm thinking, "You had freaking two years after DA to talk about what could make Deception better and yet now after the game is released you start complaining about other players." Maybe it's unfair to pass that kind of judgement but the people who didn't mention anything about DA's gameplay flaws are partially to blame for the current problems in Deception. When Midway hears nothing but "We want more fatalities" from these boards of course they're going to think their engine is fine. And the cycle is repeating now so MK7 is probably going to suffer the same fate. I just think if people are going to complain about players who only throw they should also tackle the issue at the root of the problem since that's the only way MK7 won't have the same problems.
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TrilogyNY
11/08/2004 03:09 AM (UTC)
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Throws are way too stupid. People who use these "throws" are fucking morons who don't have true skill. I never throw so if somebody wants to test a true skill hit me up._ Trilogyfurious
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Bloodline666
11/08/2004 04:48 AM (UTC)
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As for the throw-whores...I'll try my best to develop some strategies to stop them dead in their tracks. I'm pretty sure that not all low attacks can counter a throw after being thrown.
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11/30/2004 01:18 AM (UTC)
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I have to agree that somtimes, throws can be very cheap. If only the MKD team would have given us the ability to combo break them...
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11/30/2004 03:18 AM (UTC)
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Throw-whores get a cheap version of my Dairou. Simple as that!furious
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11/30/2004 05:26 PM (UTC)
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If there were no throws more than half the gamers online wouldn't stand a chance, since that's all they got!
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BIGBlack
11/30/2004 07:53 PM (UTC)
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The game isn't cheap, the players that constantly rely on throws and grabs are. it is totally gay, period, when you need to throw 5, 6, 7, 8 times a round to win. Yes, it can be ducked, but if all the player is doing is attempting a grab every 3 seconds, it makes for a really lame game. A few here and there is fine to throw off the balance of your opponent but you idiots crying, "Just don't play then" are missing the big fucking picture. If you need to constantly grab and throw to win you have no fucking skill. PERIOD.
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12/02/2004 04:06 AM (UTC)
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some characters do need to throw to win.. atleast for me. mainly my mileena and hotaru need them... sub~zero players need them.. but again ill only throw often when im thrown.. if u do not throw and i accidently throw ill sit there for u to get a free throw in, even if it'll kill me.. im not a rank whore, i dont care if i win or lose... wink-
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BIGBlack
12/02/2004 05:51 AM (UTC)
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I play with Mileena and win without throwing. My thing is a few throws are fine. Like I said, throws off the balence. I played a guy tonight though tha grabbed times in one round! I mean that is cheese
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BIGBlack
12/02/2004 05:54 AM (UTC)
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I play with Mileena and win without throwing. My thing is a few throws are fine. Like I said, throws off the balence. I played a guy tonight though tha grabbed times in one round! I mean that is cheese
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12/02/2004 04:50 PM (UTC)
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I never throw period, but if someone wants to be a throwhore I can wip one right back at them.
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TheDarkPrince
12/02/2004 05:58 PM (UTC)
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Throws are part of the game love'em or hate'em.Some people do abuse throws but every fighting game has throw whores.You just have to get use to it,I only throw once a fight or so only to change things up.But some people base their whole fighting style around throws(Bo Rai Cho players as well as Raiden).The only thing you cn do is get use to it uppercuts work well as well as sweeps.Throw whores will always be around no matter what fighting games you play.
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BIGBlack
12/02/2004 06:08 PM (UTC)
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See when I use Bo, I never grab! His combos work for me okay. IActually, I don't grab unless the other guy does. I use Jade. She is too tight with her shit to worry about trying to toss someone
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