I'll address mav first to get this out of the way.

It's easy actually, both myself and Groy are hardly on this game anymore. I can tell because he hardly posts GG's meaning he's obviously not on a lot.

Am I accusing him of anything? No, not at all before some dipshit accuses me of saying that.

All I'm saying is he's busy my guess or the times he goes on is different then mine.

Now, for me well not sure if you heard mav but just in case you haven't I got a recently got a new job and it's from the afternoon-late evening, I get home at like 11:30, quarter to 12 or after midnight pm. By that time I'm hungry and tired and not to mention nobody is on at that time.

That's why nobody has seen me on much or at all, kind of a nobrainer.

Ok, first of all. I've been on this site way before you have, and I've never ever had a problem with anyone on here unless they start shit with me or post nonsense concerning my name. Second, what "lies" have I posted or said about you exactly? I'd love to hear this? There are no lies, again if you're referring to that dumb SecretMKgod incident way back, it's easy. 3 month temp GT that I had, I played everyone on here that I could to see honestly how people would react if "a new name" happen to beat them. I also show or say GG's. Only certain exceptions will I verbally attack someone such as false accusations, bs cry baby excuses on why someone lost to me or if someone is talking shit about me for no reason.

Now, you want talk about good sportsmanship? Well, you're one to talk then because everyone else either knew it was me or said GG's to whoever Secret is, now you on the other hand I beat on that account and you came on here posting whoever this guy is he's cheesy with dairou and he used him a lot. Not very friendly or sportsmanship like now is it Groy?

In fact that sounds like a mere excuse on WHY you lost to me that night, then when I told you that it was me that really boiled you up because you probably assumed that OMG that was MKF and I didn't win? Thus why I say you're arrogant. I show everyone here proper respect however if I feel I'm not getting that in return or someone is posting nonsense about me, I'll gladly put my foot down and state the facts. I'm a really, really nice guy if you get to know me as a lot here will tell you who have actually talked to be via mic. However, if someone is going out of their way to start with me, post lies about me I will bite back.

Thirdly, I've played every elite player in both MKD and MKA, in MKD only one guy I could never beat and he beat everyone B N R, enough said. Everyone else in that game I've beaten, in MKA more people can beat me then MKD but I also played everyone. Just because you're not aware of it Groy doesn't mean something didn't happen. I've played eazy, alex, malone, dirty, jaded, pig, bobby you etc.

You are aware that most of these guys don't even play anymore, right? Now, I've beaten everyone at some point in MKA except for eazy, you and jaded. Both you and jaded beat me by 4 games and I know he beat you by 4 as well because you and him both stated it back on MKAC.

There is no problem from me, as I said as long as the respect is mutual It's all good. If someone acts like a dick, or is extremely arrogant about matches or in general that's where I step in. I hate a poor attitude and don't like it. I've seen this in several occassions, not just video games. I've seen this in sports, I used to play baseball, bowling etc. I've seen this in online gaming.

If someone wins and it arrogant about it or loses and is a sore loser then that immediately turns me off.

Now, personally I don't care who thinks that's an acceptable objective scale to use but that's how I am.

When I also see people brag about scores or bitch about lag that's also a sign of POOR sportsmanship thus why Barry Bonds is a joke. He cheats and he thinks he's good....

That would be like pnaper or styles saying they're hall of fame MK players...right



Now forthly, umm ok you just don't get it with UMK3. First off all just because I don't own a 360 currently doesn't mean I don't know anything about the game or don't play it.




Let's see here I play it on PS2 Special Edition MKA a few times a week(PS 2 with no online) I got it for the SE exclusive. I play it every other weekend at my friends house who happens to have it online and I've played that game more then anyone else in this thread for sure. I lived at the arcades when that game came out, I played it constantly on SNES UMK3 and still love the game to this day.

So, any argument you think you have of me "not knowing anything" about UMK3 is seriously shut down....

I've told you several times also, if you don't believe me and think I suck or am horrible simply ask stretch, gerchap or pig or wu. I assure you, they'll back me up on why I'm far from your theory.

Also, since you're not aware of the fact that

A. Red posted a video of MKT, NOT UMK3. Just so you know Groy, the games are apples and oranges in a lot of ways. There are things you can do in MKT that aren't possible in UMK3, Noob and Rain are extremely broken in MKT. They're NOT in UMK3, Bosses are in MKT, not in UMK3. The games properties are totally different, therefore some things you're able to do in MKT will NOT be able to be done in UMK3. UMK3 is arcade perfect, MKT is not. UMK3 is very balanced and playable, MKT is not with Noob and Rain in there. You can pull off easy infinites all day.

B.Who's bringing up UMK3 in this thread first? Not me..your boy Red did and posted his point incorrectly also I might add. As someone already mentioned, his vid is of MKT, NOT UMK3....did you not notice that or do you actually believe that they're the same exact game? I'm not the one of late bringing up UMK3, Red has or others on here. All I said is that UMK3 is a much better game then MKA is gameplay wise, which is a nobrainer...like I said man, if you or red to post what you posted in this thread on umk.com people would be laughing at the both of you. I'm not joking...

Just out of curiousity Groy with no help, tell me this. I'm sure you can do the Quan-Chi corner infinite in MKA, but can you do Kung Lao's UMK3 or Reptiles UMk3 infinite? Once you try them compared to MKA, you'll see that there's much more that meets the eye in UMK3 then you say there is. And again, no offense to Red but he posted an MKT broken vid and "SAYING" it's UMK3 which is not true. Two different games.

Now, since you apparently never played UMK3 at high level or spent nearly the amount of time on it as I have, I'd say you are not one to judge. I, on the other hand have had LOTS of UMK3 experience over the years, and I play anyone online when I do play it on the 360. I win more often then lose and I don't even have the game myself. Once I do, I'm sure I'll improve even more not a doubt in my mind.

As for playing "noobs" as you say, that's far from true. How exactly will I get better by playing noobs not to mention just about everyone except for players on here will only abuse their KAK anyway so what's the point?

I play people who have good records, if they're crap or a waste I don't play them again simple as pie. Example, pnaper, styles, HB, abbraakadaabraa whatever etc...

Otherwise I'll play someone who's good that doesn't come to this site or whoever is on my list from here.

Now, I haven't even been on MKA in the past 2 weeks....my job is random with days and sometimes it's 6 in a row or 3 or 4 or 5.

I have no problem telling everyone here straight out, I've been working or too busy to play thus why I haven't been posting GG's to anyone lately.

Now, what's your excuse? Surely, school or work or something right?

As I said earlier in a post. I come here for MK, keep in touch with people or contribute to MKO however I can. I don't/won't go out of my way to start with people.

You on the other hand as far as I've seen have only posted here to attempt to start an argument with me, just because you disagree with me about something?

Post only most of the time after I've posted a lot within the past few months.

The only thread I've honestly seen you post in that had nothing to do with me Groy was the one where you told everyone that you cap vids, other then that find me some posts that you posted that weren't provoking MKF30.

I have a DS and have had one for a while. They cost 130 bucks Groy, UMK3 is coming out for it end of October/November. Buy one and play me, I'll play anyone on here that thinks that I suck or don't know what I'm talking about and they'll learn the hard fact that that's not true.


P.S. Groy and Red, I suggest you both read Psykosonik's post as well as anyone else here who feels that UMK3 is a horrible broken game and worse then MKA, because that's simply not true. Later.

MKF how on earth do you have time to make posts that long. also please dont quote quoted posts. Your posts are long enough.

Could someone please summarize MKFs novel for me. lol

I agree with you Maverick about these long posts. He has the time to make them yet he can't get games in with certain people in MKA. Its ironic also because in MKD it was the same as well. He never played on his MKF30 account (because it was stationed in the top 50) and pretty much things were the same getting games in with him when he played on his friend's account.

DAMN!!! That is indeed long! MKF should definitely be an editor for Wall Street Journal.

i recorded all those combos (from this vid). should i explain each one? i doubt somenoe of you have at leats decent umk3 level so dont speak about infinites which could be done in a vs match.

the infinites from this video which you can see in a vs game in umk3 arcade are:

stryker's: mid-screen and corner inf (which is different in umk3 arcade, no fast d+hk there)

lao infinite: mid-screen infinite (and 1 corner that exists only in umk3) - and often people who thinks are good with him or at the game just screw it after the first cycle.

relaunchers: probably 2 cycles because in a tourny match people rare will try to get more

so thats... what 2-3 infs? dont judge the game from a combo video. people watch the umk3/mkt combo videos and talk "this game is so broken" and they even dont realize that most of the combos took endless of hours to be performed/recirded and never will be seen in a match.

It seems to me UMK3 has picked up speed since being relaunched on XBL. I need to get my 360 back online and get a new controller to go along.

I'm not going to comment on UMK3, or MKF, or G_Roy, or any of that cuz I don't care. But this is more of a general comment.

Mav beat to mentioning it, but.... DON'T QUOTE EVERY DAMN POST IN YOUR RESPONSES!!!

For example: MKF's last post took me 12 scrolls on the wheel thing on my mouse to get through. Why must we quote 2-5 previous posts within a response? Especially the one's that take MKF almost 40 minutes to write (like his last one) that absolutely nobody reads. By the way, MKF; If you're going to write SO much, add some substance to your posts. Don't you wonder why EVERYBODY says the same thing about your posts?

Specifically, this was for MKF, G_Roy, and Red since they're the ones usually getting into this stuff. You know you're only talking to each other and nobody else is reading, so leave out the Page-Long quotes. In general, though, everybody should take that advice.

First of all, I mean not to brag but in junior high school I was the second fastest typer in the class. For you guys that's saying OMG MKF made a long ass post...

Ummm, just so you know chaos, mav and groy it took me 5 minutes to write that. If that takes you say a half hour because you hunt and peck that's your problem no offense. I was in 3 classes of typing/computer in junior high over 10 years ago. Then took one more in high school. I know how to type fast.

I was taught how to type well in school, something a lot of people can't do I've noticed. Aside from horrible grammar, punctuation etc but I don't have the time to play english teacher.

I don't know who can type properly here and who can't but seriously if you use the hunt and peck method. You'll be here a while. All I'll say.

Groy, actually that's not true I played you on MKF back in MKD a few times and the one time my MKF vs. your Golden account. Secret is long gone, I played as many people as I played on that. I've played you on all 3 of my accounts on MKD way back. By the way, I've seen your name in the top 50 also. In fact I've seen everyones name here up there at some point.

The reason that post was long was because I was simply addressing and making my points.

If someone doens't want to read it because of length, not my problem.

All I was saying on UMK3 in a nutshell is what Psyko was saying earlier. Nobody should talk shit about UMK3 saying it's "a broken mess" when they don't know what they're talking about.

Yes, on what psycko said. You're also the same dude that discovered the Reptile infinite am I right? I think it was you, I've tried all of the infinites. I must admit I can only pull a few off. I had the reptile one a few cycles but I can't do it the whole match. So I got a semi out of it. It's very tough, Kung Lao I can't buffer that damn spin with the 360 pad for shit. I also don't use him at all. I have done the stryker across the screen a few times. The rest I can't do but I keep trying for fun.

Ok, I type fast too. It's just I saw a realitively short post by you, followed by a monster post that was submitted 37 minutes later. That's where that "40 minute" reference came from.

It doesn't change the fact that nobody reads it. I tried before, but you repeat yourself too much and use a ridiculous amount of filler in your words. In the end, you get about a decent paragraph's worth of valid information, only it's spread out (and repeated) over an entire page.

If you can type fast, fine. But don't let be the cause of you writing every single thought your mind pops out. Keep them to the point. A request.

mkflegend Wrote:Yes, on what psycko said. You're also the same dude that discovered the Reptile infinite am I right? I think it was you ========================================================== yes i found them + probably 15 more for other characters lol

Well, let's just say I like to go into detail because this way nobody can say" you never said that or I wasn't thorough enough" for them.

Now, as I said earlier man. If someone doesn't want to read a few paragraphs, it's not my problem. I can't read for people. Now, to answer your other question on why I made two posts. That was my fault, I admit I was too lazy to edit and readd that to my prior post but you shouldn't have a problem with me honestly with that.

Have you seen Red or Mav's posts on here? I've seen them both make double posts several times. I've also seen you do it in a few threads on here.

Personally, I don't care for that trivial stuff though. I wasn't repeating myself in that last post, I was merely going into vivid detail to make SURE that those certain peeps in here get the point. I feel it's easier then saying one sentence and having asked "what do you mean MKF, explain yourself"

Psyko, ohh shit that's a lot lol. Nice job discovering them.

These posts are ridiculously long. MKF, how do you not have the time to come on MKA for some games but you have hours of free time to type non-stop??

Dude, as I said before it does NOT take me hours to post a few paragraphs. Perhaps for others, but not for me.

And it's called work to answer why I'm not on as much, did you not read what I posted earlier DR?

P.S. I'm currently uploading some vids of MKA matches onto youtube and I can't go on at the same time live and internet, I have a modem so obviously that won't work since I can only use one at a time.

Haha, I have to say I didnt. Guilty as charged.

This is pretty funny. After being told to shorten his posts....MKF makes another long post. Nobody is reading that much.

Have you considered the fact that most of the fighting games out there have infinites yet are not considered broken? And seriously, you can avoid the infinites and there are much cheaper moves you can pull off, the characters that have infinites are not even god tiers. Alot of infinites in the game are hard to pull of and some need to be done on certain characters, show me some match videos that use some infinites and I will point out what they did wrong.

WOW, I'm learning how incredibly lazy some people are on here.....that don't like reading or can't..

My second post wasn't hardly long, damn I'd hate to see how some in here managed to pass english for those that are lazy to read a few paragraphs. or something.

A book is consisted of ohhh about a couple of thousand paragraphs when you read it right? pfffttt


At DR, lol no problem man I figured you missed it that's why I mentioned it.



Yeah, well sadly a lot in here never even touched the game and you can tell from their responces pretty much. Anyone can do the Jade MKA infinite, N/S MKD ones but can they do say Rep's UMK3 dash infinite? or Kung Laos? Or Cyrax's? I think not... I totally agree lori

Hahaha!!! Exactly which proves my point. No one is trying to read your long bullshit posts which are just full of bullshit excuses and you glorifying yourself in games you don't even have. A smart person would just type what he or she has to say in short fashion and address the points made, not make long posts that constantly go off topic and hardly address any points that are made. The only way to get respect around here is to stop talking, man up, accept challenges, and fight!!!

As I said before, if you're NOT reading it so begin with how can you possible know what I typed? duhhhh....

A smart person would explain in vivid understandable DETAIL like what Pysko and myself did earlier. The problem is some people in here just won't admit they were wrong about UMK3 when in reality the video is of MKT to begin with. Notice that's the only really, really LONG post I posted in this thread.

I'm referring to the topic Groy, (UMK3 being not horribly broken and such) don't go off topic now with other stuff.

Did this SOB just quote a quoted post, thereby making his long unreadable post even longer.

MKF STOP DOING THIS SHIT......if we wanted to read ALLLLL the previous posts we will read them. We dont need you to do a recap. If you want to direct something to someone. you can start your long posts with his name or you can do :@such and such

I dont mean to be a jerk but you REALLY need to work on brevity. That might be why you get into so many arguments nobody totally reads what you write

I think he did, Mav.....

In fact.... I think he just pulled off the devastating "Unneccesary Triple-Quote of Death".

Brevity. Good word, Maverick!

what i find funny is that mkf actually went to another site to get someone here to back his comments up.

for the last time umk3 is an upgrade of a game that had public testing for over a year. MOST OF THE SHIT WILL GET FIXED. how broken was mk3, which got the normal testing of all if there games.

run jab was not desgined to be in the game, they are just like fts. broken shit that gets incorperated into the game play and considered legit gameplay .

Ok, mav if that post was addressing me I really don't give a shit about quote amounts.

It's here and I'll use it, enough said. God, of all the things to worry about... lol



Actually, Red ask Psycko I didn't "bring" him here but I did mock this ridiculous thread in a post I made on there and I guess someone that really knows what he's talking about decided to post in your thread and shut down the whole " UMK3 is broken" argument.

I don't even understand why you posted this in the first place, was it to get my attention or something? It's not even UMK3, it's MKT two entirely different games...

UMK3 wasn't only the final version of MK3 but it was also made for other reasons that you neglected to mention such as, umm let's see here characters that weren't in MK3 that fans desired *cough* Scorpion*cough* Kitana, etc, etc.

And the subby MK3 clone was a nobrainer, they did the same shit in MKD with smokes cloud then fixed it in MKA.

I was all set to comment on the OP's post on how UMK3 was so broken when the link itself has MKT at the start, and the N64 MKT *is* horribly broken, when someone else comes along and corrects the fact that it's not even UMK3 in the video at all. lol

I prefer UMK3 to MKD and MKA by far, and to me, when people use infinites online at all, it's not a show of skill but a lack of it they are proving.

It's like when people in SOCOM would use cheats to kill everyone in the map, what skill is there to that? Do they think people will respect their ability for doing it? It's retarded.

I would rather enjoy a game with someone who doesn't want or need to rely on infinites to win, it's more satisfying to lose to someone that way and when you win, you know it was due to skill and not lameness.