OH !! Its all good until somebody calls you out for being trash, isnt it ?

What changed man ? LOL, whats wrong dude ? Are you embarrassed ? Look at that post.... so funny how all of a sudden, you wanna be cool.

Its OK man. Its not everyday that I get to call people trash. Be proud man.



By the way... one of you mods, do the PS2 side a favor, and ban this lame. Scrubs thinking they should be respected is a sad story. Its not even funny.

Mario Kart 64, and Zelda OOT are some of the greatest games ever created. And I'm not being opinion based what so ever. Go to www.gamespot.com, and check for yourself.

Dave, set this SSBB argument for February when the game actually comes out. Your judging a game that hasn't even hit store shelves yet.... Does that make much sense to you ?

= /

Was trying to be nice but you started shit first , if people dont like me , why should i like them? dumb ass clown

lol, the only one who looks dumb on here is you. Dropped straight ether on your ass my last 2 posts. Got fools callin me up and hittin me up on MSN telling me how valid my points were.
No, I don't travel for games. I guess it's a cardinal sjn when you're 15 and can't catch a plane to Evo whenever you wanted. Wanna come to NJ and give me a ride sweetie?

As for offline, whatever. If Dairou is indeed as unbeatable as you claim I would just pick him up.

You couldn't punish f,f+1 with Sareena because you're playing one of the characters who has a difficult time doing it online. If you would of played Scorpion or Sareena, you would of been able to all the time. Then again, you probably started using Dairou because of that reason. Much easier on the ego to lose a fairly close series and blame lag than to get BOMBED in a series and not be able to blame a damn thing but your inferiority.

Yeah, you beat my characters before. Who the fuck cares? Supposedly Funkopath beat my Kung Lao with Cage before. Everyone loses games, but if you wanna talk about who won what let's put into perspective the fact that you've beaten me in 3 series since the release of MKA, two of them being vs your Moloch and Blaze compared to my what? 20? 30?

Fun is subjective. Fun is opinion. It's my opinion you have a warped, retarded definitions of what fun is. This is the only conclusion I can come to since you asked for games all the time in both MKD and MKA just so you can lose and complain about it later to Check. Cute.


PS: Yea, you beat me in MKD in the beginning. Once I grasped Bo, however you lost 90% of the series we had. NS had that ass, too.

PPS: Zelda is shitty? You lose points.

PPPS: You can cry about how much better Check is than me all you want, but the fact is the matter is I've beaten him plenty of times(he's done the same to me). I don't get bombed on everytime I fight him like SOME people.
PPPS: Dan where's that list?

and Dave, crazy funny how you wanna talk junk about legit fighters and legit wins when you scared to come play 3S with me and Yayo. That game is as good as it gets. Much better than Tekken 5.

Lag aint much of a problem either.

yes finally.

everybody has seen my picture, trust me you don't wanna deal with me in person. LOL
anyways, I got nothing to prove, I know I am gonna lose, I just wanna play. thank you for accepting.

and take it easy on the dissing, you don't know me, don't judge me by my pic. that's like LIVE2DIE judging KARATE by his pic and calling him Goth and emo, or whatever.
I am not gonna put my best/none-psycho looking pic online for the MKO members to enjoy and approve of my normal-ness. LOL
the reason I look out of my damn mind is cuz I am known as a Kronic (a person who smokes Marijuana in excess). so even when I am sober I still look like I am out of my mind.

anyways, I got an appointment for the tier list with DRJAFF tonight @ 11:00 pm eastern, now I am damn sure you got something going on for Friday night!?!?!?!
Saturday & Sunday during the day or evening or night? which ever floats your boat. if you wanna fight on weekdays I can make it online after 10:00 pm eastern.

ps it don't have to be strictly cage vs lao but like I said whatever floats your boat.

I test my stuff in verses mode w/ 2 controllers, one being a very large one making it easier to test stuff. B+3 by itself is safe, Kung can buffer his next move while its being done, I don’t even think scorpions F+1 allows that. Go into practice and see for yourself because it works the same way on a blocking or none blocking foe. However I didn’t test it w/ the 1, 1, 3, cs combo it could be unsafe then so this could be why you’re confused, when I decide to pop the game back in, ill find out. Maybe check can prove me wrong. Don’t misunderstand I agree w/ most of everything you’re saying about these folks and their lag, watching them abuse a move that shouldn’t be abuse~able is annoying as hell. Then having to deal w/ them moving slightly faster O_O




For Versatile just a video incase you missed it showing what Dave’s talking about.

Also vers it looks like this escaped your vision as well.



I started out making a big list but then I said naw, 1~ too much work & 2~ its still will be MY OPINION. So ill say this, these are the games that make me say WII WHAT??


MK2 does count; it has an added feature that wasn’t there 15 years ago


The elder Scrolls 4
Resident Evil 5
Lost
Blade Storm
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Killzone 2
Tomb Raider 8
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
White Knight Story
Home, PlayStation

WII is getting these games as well, but they’ll look better on the PS3.

Soulcalibur IV
Project Witches
The Chronicles of Narnia Prince Caspian

Can the WII make a game like Killzone 2 ?



see now this is just my list. other PS3 players will have their lists and most likly it will be different then mine.

now if you ask a wii player what his list is ill almost bet its the same list as the next guys.

as of right now the WII is out selling every one, that will change after the holiday season. the PS3's dropped the price of the 80GB and has released a 40 GB version.


i just wanna say, i enjoy those Nintendo games as well. i may even buy a WII some day soon. my point wasnt which system is better and what games are better. my point is it all depends on who you ask.

we all ahve different taste in games. ill agree w/ Dave in saying when i was a 14-19 year old guy i had to have all those types of games zelda & mario etc but now my taste has changed i dont have the need to play those games. enjoy your SSBB. i played the 1st one and found it annoying, dave clearly finds it annoying were entitiled to our opinions.

dan, i never saw that ff 1 video

i know its basically the same thing but id just like to point out

1) the online ff 1 wasnt blocked, when ff1 is done offline and it is not blocked. it is just as safe as that online example. so its really not a true comparison

^^^ however, like i said, it is basically the same thing if it is blocked online. but i believe it is more safe when it is not blocked at all. i could be wrong.

as for b3, i never tested it, and i really dont know if i could properly test it on my own. 113cs is just as safe, probably even more safe from the hits prior to it pushing it.


i dont know if you can go right into low or into b3 before being thrown, i know versa was great at doing this. im pretty sure that is true, because if its anything, its counter throwable, but safe on block.

Versa, I could careless what your L7 friends and Ball-Sac say about me. I have some people telling me the same shit about you since you started playing MK:A. I give you credit but I also acknowledge that you beat me due to safe moves online. Face the fucking truth and LOOK AT DAN's VIDEO. That is how it is with you 70% of the time (to be generous).

And please, in MK:D, I have killed you a lot more than you have ever killed me, even later when you started abusing Bo and N/S. I remember when I invented Machine Dropping, the score was so much in my favor that it is not even debatable who the better man was.

SF: 3rd Strike is a good game but I don't have the time to play it. I don't play online games a lot any more. I don't even play Tekken 5: DR a lot. Ask Jade-OWN. I haven't even played 100 matches on DR yet. Why would I play someone who can spam safe WS+2 with Devil Jin online? Why would I play your laggy ass in either MK:A or SF: 3rd Strike? I would not know.

I don't like Zelda. I'd rather play Tomb Raider: 8. I don't like SSBB. I think it is a completely overrated game by Nintendo fan-boys like yourself and many high level players of all fighting games agree with me here. I'll play Tekken 6 instead of it.

Stop trying to shove your love for the Wii down our throats. For me, the PS3 has better games. PS3 has also the better technology. That is a fact, you dumb fan-boy.

To Dan: Kung Lao's wep. b+3 is NOT safe. I have no clue how you can test that by YOURSELF with two controllers. That is impossible. Just take Check's and my word for it that it is not safe at all. It's easily punishable unless you're playing online.

I haven't said shit about you... Nothing worth taking into offense or anything.

I have WAY better things to talk about. Talking about how Dave hates Nintendo, and Super Smash Bros Brawl is pointless to me. Dont really give a shit about what games you play.


Now quit acting like a victim. Get over it, and quit bringing my fucking name into the discussion. Save it till February when Super Smash Bros Brawl actually hits the store shelves, then we can resume this.

ok i read most of that and.....at first i never really liked the zelda series but versa persuaded me into getting zelda twilight princess and after about 50-60 hours spread into a few months the game was amazing deff one of the best games iv played in a long time thanks chris for recomending it.


im hoping the same will be for ssbb but i doubt it i didnt like it for 64 and it was worse for gamecube.....but you never know


i am now selling my wii to do the unthinkable.......buy a xbox 360 for one thing only,Halo 3! the fuckin game is so badass it blows any other game out of the water right now.

im also looking forward to the new gta but i wont see a ps3 for a while the 360 i could pick up used for the price im selling my wii....very nice!

im currently editing a video showing that it is pretty much safe. i dont know, ill let the video speak for itself. it was real hard to do, some of the counters werent right on, but some were. i used Drahmins 1,1. Kungs 2~1,1,3~f+1. Scorpions Throw~F+1~D+1. you'll see it w/ in the hour.

well im guessing that you only prefer fighting games. not brawl (SSB) or action/adventure (legend of zelda) games. i think that all video game players are "fan-boys" in some kinda way. dave you'd prefer playing things made by sony (PS3,just like me) , while versa and arcade prefer nintindo (WII). while they're "fan-boys" of nintindo, you and i are "fan-boys" of sony. its actually kinda funny when people call each other fan-boys when all gamers are fan-boys or fan-girls in SOME type of way

WELL you have to admit , no matter what ya, do online play will always be different, try to adapt as best as you can , but if people abuse safe moves to much just dont play em ..........I think some people know they have a bit of an advantage with lag and do the same stuff over and over cause it's not punishable , i think its stupid. ..........Some people say unsafe moves are always 100% of the time they can punish , but it's not true , I think they're are definitley advantages online.

yeah, in any type of online playing game everyone has a slight advantage over each other in some kind of shape or form

^ Aren't you guy's flaming each other in the other thread, but here you seem like friends.....wierd.

nah lol im done with all the flaming man. im just gonna go on and act like that didnt even happen. i dont know if live2die is done but i sure as hell is. im not the kind of person to "hold a grudge"

for dave

its the best i can do, i say its safe.
**Note if Kung Lao can duck right after a blocked B+3, he can then Side step after it as well. allowing him to side step a Scorpion F+1.

You punish too slow. I tested it earlier with my brother (both P1 and P2 side). I punished it easily with:

Dairou's b+4 and f+1

Scorpion's wep. f+1

In the 3D MK games you punish low attacks like this (because there are no true while rising moves like there are in Tekken and Virtua Fighter)

d/b+Block~N~(insert attack)

Let your joystick go to neutral position after blocking the low attack, and then immediately follow up with the attack.

Try it that way. Only low attack I couldn't punish was Tanya's d+4. That low is very safe.

the reason i brought this up was because me and TRB could punish his B3 from each other eazy , its the first time ive ever seen it . and we also have a 4 star connection . we keep syncin out tho , unless ofcource i host .

even if i did the F+1 a split second faster Kung can still side step it. he has a way of avoiding attacks after it. it works like scorpions F+1 where its near impossible to counter. theres no delay in the blocking (example noobs 4 he can move after but he still cant block an attack) nor is there delay in the moving (like sareenas ff+1 she cant move for a tick).

neutral position thing ~ one of the drahmin counters i did that.

if i feel like it ill try it again some other day when my brother in law is here.

right now im going back to The Elder Scrolls IV, fuck MKA.

Dan, I'll make a video of my own if I can find my camera.

Basically, once you block b+3, Kung Lao is still spinning unable to move and block. That is why it is punishable.

you could be right, its just when i tried letting go of block when he was still spinning i got poped up still, so i assumed you couldn't counter until he was done

make it because you atleast have some one to try it w/, its tough trying to counter this attack by myself.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jdIVXrAe5QE

Thank Check. I just uploaded it on youtube.com for him. It is perfect, and I could not have done it better myself. As long as you do it as shown in the video, you'll always punish a blocked b+3 (and 90% of the low attacks in MK:A) off-line.

Notation for it is: d/b+BLOCK~N~f+1

Conclusion: Online sucks.

very nice, like i said it was the best i could do, thats why i didnt add my normal text to the start of the video, i couldnt say for 100% for sure that it was safe or not.

how was he able to hit that fast (by himself). i couldn't do it that fast. Holding d/b block, B+3 into block then a counter move w/ the other guy O_o

you were holding block on Kung Lao right?
reguardless though, you have to use a fast attacking MID to counter it. its still a pretty safe attack.