Zeb** Wrote:
@McHotcakes


I actually met a lot of responsible and smart people that smoke weed every now and then. Maybe the difference is that smoking weed is legal over here in the Netherlands, so it's more common and a little more accepted. Most young people have at least tried weed once over here.


@sss133


"1- Growing up with a family full of smokers i've seen the effects of it eg people get extremely agitated, nervous or pedantic."


Depends on how much people smoke. If someone smokes all day he obviously get agitated or nervous when he can't smoke, because it has become a habit. I agree that smoking weed all day isn't a good choice at all, but smoking it every now and then is harmless. Not everyone smokes weed on regular basis, people tend to forget that.


"2-these people had jobs before they smoked."


There are also a lot of people that have a good job that smoke weed every now and then. It's not related. Why can't someone have a responsible job and smoke some weed in their weekend? Like I said already, it depends on how much someone smokes. Unless youre making a habit of smoking weed every day, it is not addictive.


"3-You're right i don't smoke generally but even if i do with them they don't wanna do anything than smoke more weed."


I have to agree that can be annoying, especially if you don't smoke yourself. I have experienced the same thing sometimes before. Smoking weed can make you experience things a little different. It's the same when someone drinks alcohol; when you're drunk some things are a lot more fun and interesting than when you're sober.


Do I blame weed for this? Nope. A lot of my friends smoke weed every now and then and they still want to do plenty of other fun stuff. It's your friends you should blame, not the weed.


"4-Being misinformed my old foster brother had a mental break down cos he started smoking, he later found out he had mental health problems that he didn't know about, had he kept smoking he could have lost it completely. he was lucky he found out these problems because he felt smoking helped him at first."


This sounds very unfortunate, but can you blame weed for it? When I don't know I'm allergic to milk and drink a lot of it, do I blame milk for getting sick? I don't think so, that would be ridiculous. It's my own body that is allergic to milk, or in your foster brothers case it's his own body that seemingly can't handle weed. I'm not saying it's his fault, because obviously he wasn't aware of that fact, but you can't blame weed either.


"Also Smoking and driving can cause car accidents, for my job if someone comes into my clinic stoned I am not allowed to touch them cos i can potentially kill and harm them."


Doing other things while driving, like using your cell phone or eating a happy meal can cause accidents too. Should we also ban cell phones and happy meals because of that? Basically anything that distracts you from concentrating on the road can cause accidents.


"And will power depends on the person eg I can take drugs and give up alot easier than the next person. You saying its far easier to quit is your perspective it may not apply to the next person."


That is most certainly true. I have smoked weed myself when I was 18 and I had no trouble at all to quit smoking weed. Another person may have a bit more difficulty to quit smoking weed. But still, it's their choice to smoke weed and I don't think other people should judge them because of that, as long as they function normal in society.

Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
Pfft pot, what are you in middle school? Do blow like an adult


PSA: Joe Von Zombie in no way condones the use of marijuana or cocaine.

TheBlackRanger Wrote:
It definitely depends on the person...whenever I smoke, it has an inverse effect on me. I get things done: clean my house, do my calc homework. But that's just because it has that effect on me. My friends think I'm psychotic I guess.

Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
Pfft pot, what are you in middle school? Do blow like an adult


PSA: Joe Von Zombie in no way condones the use of marijuana or cocaine.

m0s3pH Wrote:


That's probably because there are many strains that can be classified as "work weed" in that you're not handcuffed to a couch when you smoke, instead it gives you energy to perform your everyday tasks. I mean, it could also be you, but the stuff I get isn't meant for getting stuff done, haha. When I smoke, I come back inside, watch a movie, then crash.

NS922 Wrote:
Please tell me what the difference is between 4/20 and any other day to a pot head.

Chrome Wrote:
I am not one to preach about pro and contra... and in this case I am always contra... so here are my thoughts on pot:

Keep it to yourself. Don't bring it into my vicnity, don't talk about it when I am around etc. Personality shifts and the chill out attitude irks me to no end, I actually watched the complete degeneration of a schoolmate from beginning to end... morals, hygiene, results in school, hanging out with a crowd of mentally bankrupt and futureless rejectors of all responsibility. Cool stuff....

I do not care about how the chemistry behind it works. If it managed to do this to several of the people I know, meager in global measurements it has no right to be tolerated by me personally. Not all pot users are assholes etc. and some are highly able to be reasonable and funny people even smoked up (getting high is something I personally tried to great effect. It was a waste, didn't feel any better).

And there are the people who want the legalisation and are adamant about it. These are the worst: great stress reliever... bullshit, you are weak willed, go and improve upon that without having to inhale unfiltered carcinogenics from a blunt. Had a stressful day, the vast majority of the population can get by without MJ and does so. How about coal miners in China who have no weed, and for some truly mysterious reason don't croak and hit 70. Your college stress and your middle suburban lifestyle stress is nothing compared to that. Or 70% of the rest of the world who get by without MJ.

Medical MJ .... true, but what the economy and the social structure really needs is a vast amount of underachievers with no clean set goals leeching away at money. To paraphrase Foamy: My eyes hurt Doc, gimme some pot! Here, light a blunt and put it on your eye! That is my prescribed use!

I don't care about the pro or contra reasoning. Or reasoning in the first place. Point is, there are better and healthier stress reliefs or more efficient medical home threatments. Most of the people are just too weak willed, that is to say including me too, since I am moody beyond hell. Still, I don't drink, don't do pot, don't smoke, don't drink coffee and abstain from sex lately.

Leave me alone with it, and keep pot to your private life. Otherwise I won't tolerate it within my personal environs. Easy. Make your own decisions and an online forum isn't exactly the safest, sanest place to discuss such volatile topics... if you wish for a reasonable answer.

NS922 Wrote:
The same problem can be said for particularly any drug, but it seems a lot more popular with weed.

drpvfx Wrote:


Millions and millions of alcoholics would beg to differ.
Alcohol ends up costing the US healthcare system more than *all other drugs combined*.

NS922 Wrote:
No, you see, people on weed do nothing but smoke and eat muchies, while alcoholics usually drink, then throw up a lot, hit their spouses, and lose and their job. They perform multiple tasks!

Jaded-Raven Wrote:


Let me rephrase that then. People who abuse marihuana are stupid for doing so. I have absolutely nothing against people who have prescribed marihuana. I feel the same way about all drugs and other sorts of abusement.!Quote


Abuse pot hahahaha I dont think ive ever heard those words used together like that. Im not about to get into a long drug out argument over the internet over the "problems" with weed with someone who probably doesnt know too much about it. The only way people "abuse" weed and get so called addicted it is purely a mental addiction to the feeling since theres no addicting ingriedient in weed. So since its a mental addiction its just that the person being week and could use anything as a crutch like beer or liquor. Now in 24 years old now I have a wife and son I cant smoke as much as I used to because I put my responsibiltes first.But when I get an oppurtunity every once in awhile like MK night I will smoke alittle. You know why cause I have a stressfull life working 65 hour work weeks and raise my son on my down time. So if I like to relax smoke with my friends and forget about lifes bullshit everyonce in awhile doing it responsibly who the fuck does it hurt? No one

Zeb** Wrote:
Being from the Netherlands myself, it's really weird to see people make such a big deal out of smoking weed. Over here people generally don't think it's a big deal. People make their own choice and it's kinda sad when they are called stupid for something they enjoy. Smoking a lot of weed obviously isn't a very smart choice, but it's a little narrowminded to call people stupid if they enjoy smoking weed every now and then. It's like calling someone stupid because he enjoys drinking alcohol or gaming.

Smoking weed and intelligence aren't exactly connected. There are also a lot of really smart people that smoke weed sometimes to put their mind at ease.

Besides, weed isn't extremely harmfull or addicting, as long as you don't smoke it on a regular basis. Research has even proven that smoking weed once a month can be healthy.

PS: No, I don't smoke weed myself. I have done it a few times when I was 17 or 18 years old, but I didn't really like it. I just don't like to see people judge other people because of certain minor choices they make in life.

sss133 Wrote:
What country did 4/20 originated from??

Riyakou Wrote:


Ask a pothead.