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Alright time to break it down.
In the given scenario, Batman and Kratos meet in the center of Gotham City and are standing about ten meters apart. Batman is aware of all of Kratos's powers and his emotional state. Kratos is super pissed as always. Here we go.
I'm going to go ahead and estimate that Kratos is about as strong as Wonder Woman is and Batman knows this so he won't try to confront Kratos out in the open. Kratos also has his swords, Cestus, bow and other items he's collected in his journey so fighting him head on would be suicide. Again, Batman knows this.
So here's what is going to happen. If Batman can escape for the time being and retreat to the shadows of Gotham City, he will win the fight. If Batman succeeds, he can pick his spots from the shadows, wear down the God of War and eventually incapacitate him. The longer the fight goes on, the better The Dark Knight will fare.
The fight's outcome is going to be decided in the opening moments. If Batman can escape Kratos then he wins. If not, Kratos pummels him to dust. Maybe Batman could get away even if Kratos get's his hands on him, but he'd be better off not coming into contact at all.
I think Batman, being the master escapologist and all, finds a way to get away from Kratos, play the stealth game and wear Kratos down. Batman wins, but it might take a while.
In the given scenario, Batman and Kratos meet in the center of Gotham City and are standing about ten meters apart. Batman is aware of all of Kratos's powers and his emotional state. Kratos is super pissed as always. Here we go.
I'm going to go ahead and estimate that Kratos is about as strong as Wonder Woman is and Batman knows this so he won't try to confront Kratos out in the open. Kratos also has his swords, Cestus, bow and other items he's collected in his journey so fighting him head on would be suicide. Again, Batman knows this.
So here's what is going to happen. If Batman can escape for the time being and retreat to the shadows of Gotham City, he will win the fight. If Batman succeeds, he can pick his spots from the shadows, wear down the God of War and eventually incapacitate him. The longer the fight goes on, the better The Dark Knight will fare.
The fight's outcome is going to be decided in the opening moments. If Batman can escape Kratos then he wins. If not, Kratos pummels him to dust. Maybe Batman could get away even if Kratos get's his hands on him, but he'd be better off not coming into contact at all.
I think Batman, being the master escapologist and all, finds a way to get away from Kratos, play the stealth game and wear Kratos down. Batman wins, but it might take a while.


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ShingoEX Wrote:
Intelligence can only get you so far when you're up against a fallen god who killed the God of all Gods, slayed titans, can fight his way back from Hades, and has nothing left to lose.
Intelligence, in that case, would tell me to not bother fighting him. Fighting Kratos, he'd be the "Damned by the Gods" Batman.
Intelligence can only get you so far when you're up against a fallen god who killed the God of all Gods, slayed titans, can fight his way back from Hades, and has nothing left to lose.
Intelligence, in that case, would tell me to not bother fighting him. Fighting Kratos, he'd be the "Damned by the Gods" Batman.
Case Closed.
Seriously y'all? Batman over Kratos? Don't get me wrong cuz Batman is my favorite comic book hero. But he would be dead in a matter of minutes. Kratos kills Gods, Titans and well just everything that gets in his way. And to say Kratos isn't intelligent is wrong as well. I've done tons of puzzles with the guy. Batman has beaten some tough opponents but they have had weaknesses. I don't remember Kratos having any for Batman to use against him. As for the conditioning factor please! Batman is still human, Kratos is a Demi-God who went from the bottom of Hades and Climbed to the top of Mount Olympus with out breaking a sweat and battling foes all along the way.
As for the biggest factor Batman had been defeated by Bane. Kratos killed Hercules. 'nuff said
As for the biggest factor Batman had been defeated by Bane. Kratos killed Hercules. 'nuff said
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You guys are treating this like its some sort of straight up fist fight. Its not. Batman can use the environment to his advantage. If it was just some fight in a squared circle then Batman would be dead. But its not. Its in Batman's backyard.


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SubMan799 Wrote:
You guys are treating this like its some sort of straight up fist fight. Its not. Batman can use the environment to his advantage. If it was just some fight in a squared circle then Batman would be dead. But its not. Its in Batman's backyard.
You guys are treating this like its some sort of straight up fist fight. Its not. Batman can use the environment to his advantage. If it was just some fight in a squared circle then Batman would be dead. But its not. Its in Batman's backyard.
To be fair Kratos has fought in ALOT of places unfamiliar to him, and he still came out victorious.
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Darkhound74 Wrote:
To be fair Kratos has fought in ALOT of places unfamiliar to him, and he still came out victorious.
SubMan799 Wrote:
You guys are treating this like its some sort of straight up fist fight. Its not. Batman can use the environment to his advantage. If it was just some fight in a squared circle then Batman would be dead. But its not. Its in Batman's backyard.
You guys are treating this like its some sort of straight up fist fight. Its not. Batman can use the environment to his advantage. If it was just some fight in a squared circle then Batman would be dead. But its not. Its in Batman's backyard.
To be fair Kratos has fought in ALOT of places unfamiliar to him, and he still came out victorious.
It doesn't matter that the place is unfamiliar to Kratos. What matters is that its familiar to Batman. Batman will abuse home field advantage and win the fight. Its not like Kratos can just destroy every building in Gotham
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but hes the GOD DAMN BATMAN!


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SubMan799 Wrote:
It doesn't matter that the place is unfamiliar to Kratos. What matters is that its familiar to Batman. Batman will abuse home field advantage and win the fight. Its not like Kratos can just destroy every building in Gotham
Darkhound74 Wrote:
To be fair Kratos has fought in ALOT of places unfamiliar to him, and he still came out victorious.
SubMan799 Wrote:
You guys are treating this like its some sort of straight up fist fight. Its not. Batman can use the environment to his advantage. If it was just some fight in a squared circle then Batman would be dead. But its not. Its in Batman's backyard.
You guys are treating this like its some sort of straight up fist fight. Its not. Batman can use the environment to his advantage. If it was just some fight in a squared circle then Batman would be dead. But its not. Its in Batman's backyard.
To be fair Kratos has fought in ALOT of places unfamiliar to him, and he still came out victorious.
It doesn't matter that the place is unfamiliar to Kratos. What matters is that its familiar to Batman. Batman will abuse home field advantage and win the fight. Its not like Kratos can just destroy every building in Gotham
There's no doubt that Batman would use Gotham to his advantage, but Kratos killed Hades in his own domain, so that's why the "homefield advantage" thing isn't enough to convince me.
It's funny how many of you call the Greek mythology gods as 'Gods'. Only the Christian god is called 'God' for the reason that it is the actual name. This causes misunderstanding to some. As for who would win - we are in a Mortal Kombat site - why not to find it out and see which one fights better against the MK characters that are in MK/DC? Kratos fights against the MK9 iterations naturally and Batman fights against the MK/DC iterations respectively.
Raiden - god of thunder
Zeus - god of thunder
Thor - god of thunder
Raijin - god of thunder
What comes to the intelligence in fighting against Kratos, as an underdog human being, in this case I believe that is the only option to do for Batman. Accidents and surprises can happen to both sides, and victories similar to Batman's possible victory here have happened in real life as well.
Zeus - god of thunder
Thor - god of thunder
Raijin - god of thunder
What comes to the intelligence in fighting against Kratos, as an underdog human being, in this case I believe that is the only option to do for Batman. Accidents and surprises can happen to both sides, and victories similar to Batman's possible victory here have happened in real life as well.
Zmoke Wrote:
Raiden - god of thunder
Zeus - god of thunder
Thor - god of thunder
Raijin - god of thunder
What comes to the intelligence in fighting against Kratos, as an underdog human being, in this case I believe that is the only option to do for Batman. Accidents and surprises can happen to both sides, and victories similar to Batman's possible victory here have happened in real life as well.
Raiden - god of thunder
Zeus - god of thunder
Thor - god of thunder
Raijin - god of thunder
What comes to the intelligence in fighting against Kratos, as an underdog human being, in this case I believe that is the only option to do for Batman. Accidents and surprises can happen to both sides, and victories similar to Batman's possible victory here have happened in real life as well.
Accidents that result in victories are like online wins due to a network outage. They're indecisive when it boils down to the actual conflict.
ShingoEX Wrote:
Accidents that result in victories are like online wins due to a network outage. They're indecisive when it boils down to the actual conflict.
Zmoke Wrote:
Raiden - god of thunder
Zeus - god of thunder
Thor - god of thunder
Raijin - god of thunder
What comes to the intelligence in fighting against Kratos, as an underdog human being, in this case I believe that is the only option to do for Batman. Accidents and surprises can happen to both sides, and victories similar to Batman's possible victory here have happened in real life as well.
Raiden - god of thunder
Zeus - god of thunder
Thor - god of thunder
Raijin - god of thunder
What comes to the intelligence in fighting against Kratos, as an underdog human being, in this case I believe that is the only option to do for Batman. Accidents and surprises can happen to both sides, and victories similar to Batman's possible victory here have happened in real life as well.
Accidents that result in victories are like online wins due to a network outage. They're indecisive when it boils down to the actual conflict.
One can't mention this too often. Go, grandfather!


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People forget that Kratos has as much as tools as Batman (well, probably less, but much more powerful), and he carries all of them at once.
Also, Kratos is no dumb brute.
Also, Kratos is no dumb brute.


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The winner is whoever the writer chooses.
But I'm saying Batman if he does kill Kratos which he will eventually after learning nothing will stop him in destroying gotham. Yes Kratos has escaped hades but it would be on Batman's turf aka hell. Now do you think Kratos can escape hell? Yes in a straight up fight it would be Kratos but if Batman escapes which he most likely will he's not gonna egg Kratos on like many of the gods did. He's gonna study him and find the way to take him down.
Batman will win.
But I'm saying Batman if he does kill Kratos which he will eventually after learning nothing will stop him in destroying gotham. Yes Kratos has escaped hades but it would be on Batman's turf aka hell. Now do you think Kratos can escape hell? Yes in a straight up fight it would be Kratos but if Batman escapes which he most likely will he's not gonna egg Kratos on like many of the gods did. He's gonna study him and find the way to take him down.
Batman will win.


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Unfortunately, Kratos would rape Batman(and I like Batman), because well let's face it. Kratos kills Gods and other creatures for a living. But Batman wins in the "Intelligence" department.
To add to my original:
People underestimate the Bat. It's really easy to look at him and think 'normal guy in a costume who doesn't stand a chance against anyone with superpowers', and he has proven that wrong time and again.
In a condition like Subman is describing, if Bats has studied him beforehand, he will exploit any and all weaknesses Kratos has. That's not an 'if'.
He is also a ninja, every bit as much of one as our own beloved and overexposed Hanzo Hasashi. If he's not the world's greatest martial artist (I think the honor there goes to Karate Kid), he's very easily in the top five of the DCU. This is a man with genius level intellect who has mastered pretty well every form of martial art known to man, who knows multiple ways to kill with a single strike, but chooses instead to keep life sacred - unless it's not human. Bats has no qualms about killing gods or aliens if he feels they are a threat to humanity.
Re: The Bane example - Bane broke his back because he wore him down for days beforehand. He studied him, learned his secrets, learned of his devotion to his war on crime, and exploited that by letting out all of Arkham's inmates so that Bruce would tire himself out by going after them one after another. It was only when Bruce was on the verge of collapsing from exhaustion that Bane stormed into Wayne Manor and took him on. Even in his addled state, Bruce recognized right away that his Venom tube was a power source and tried to pull the plug. Had he been in better shape that fight would have been over in about two minutes with Bane on the ground.
Bane beat Batman not in a physical confrontation, but by outwitting him and countering Batman's greatest asset with the same - his mind. Breaking his back was just the finishing move.
To actually answer this: I'm not too familiar with Kratos' abilities and limitations. The MK staff seem to think he's an equal match for their cast, more or less, and unless someone can tell me different, that he was radically depowered in this game (which doesn't even mean much to me considering Bats has brought down Superman in the past), that's good enough for me. Since the same applies for Bats easily, I think it could very well go either way.
People underestimate the Bat. It's really easy to look at him and think 'normal guy in a costume who doesn't stand a chance against anyone with superpowers', and he has proven that wrong time and again.
In a condition like Subman is describing, if Bats has studied him beforehand, he will exploit any and all weaknesses Kratos has. That's not an 'if'.
He is also a ninja, every bit as much of one as our own beloved and overexposed Hanzo Hasashi. If he's not the world's greatest martial artist (I think the honor there goes to Karate Kid), he's very easily in the top five of the DCU. This is a man with genius level intellect who has mastered pretty well every form of martial art known to man, who knows multiple ways to kill with a single strike, but chooses instead to keep life sacred - unless it's not human. Bats has no qualms about killing gods or aliens if he feels they are a threat to humanity.
Re: The Bane example - Bane broke his back because he wore him down for days beforehand. He studied him, learned his secrets, learned of his devotion to his war on crime, and exploited that by letting out all of Arkham's inmates so that Bruce would tire himself out by going after them one after another. It was only when Bruce was on the verge of collapsing from exhaustion that Bane stormed into Wayne Manor and took him on. Even in his addled state, Bruce recognized right away that his Venom tube was a power source and tried to pull the plug. Had he been in better shape that fight would have been over in about two minutes with Bane on the ground.
Bane beat Batman not in a physical confrontation, but by outwitting him and countering Batman's greatest asset with the same - his mind. Breaking his back was just the finishing move.
To actually answer this: I'm not too familiar with Kratos' abilities and limitations. The MK staff seem to think he's an equal match for their cast, more or less, and unless someone can tell me different, that he was radically depowered in this game (which doesn't even mean much to me considering Bats has brought down Superman in the past), that's good enough for me. Since the same applies for Bats easily, I think it could very well go either way.
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Darkhound74 Wrote:
There's no doubt that Batman would use Gotham to his advantage, but Kratos killed Hades in his own domain, so that's why the "homefield advantage" thing isn't enough to convince me.
There's no doubt that Batman would use Gotham to his advantage, but Kratos killed Hades in his own domain, so that's why the "homefield advantage" thing isn't enough to convince me.
The difference between the fight with Hades is that at the end of it, Kratos confronted Hades and battled him mono y mono. With this scenario Batman is hiding all over the place, avoiding confrontation, exhausting Kratos and using stealth/intelligence to outmaneuver the God of War.
I know Kratos is one tough S.O.B. and much smarter than we give him credit for, but this is Batman he's dealing with.


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Mojo6 Wrote:
Batman wins without breaking a sweat, but only if it's THIS Batman!

Batman wins without breaking a sweat, but only if it's THIS Batman!

I agree.
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