A male gay bar.

A Starbucks in Downtown Vancouver, I think on Davie Street.

In response to caring if a girl went into the guy's bathroom. No. I wouldn't care. And I wouldn't "protect her" like someone else said, haha. That's silly.

I still think the whole situation is rather silly.

If there are no women in the bathroom at the time, there's absolutely no problem. ..

Also, as many said -- No one would mind if a woman was using the Men's room; a tad one-sided, no?

My lady friends are always trying to take me into the bathroom with them.

He was in the wrong. Don't think anyone would disagree with that.

"practically a woman" is the kind of statement that you'd make as a joke to make fun of yourself, not something you say in all seriousness to skip a queue. I'm gay and my friends are always making jokes saying I should get back into the kitchen and make them sandwhiches because I'm practically a woman, so that's a running joke I'd have with a lot of them (plus I do like making sandwhiches oddly enough. I get very creative.)

However statements like that give people the wrong impression about gays. It's pricks like him who'd be waving the rainbow flag in everybody's face and screaming about how unequal he is in society for homophobic treatment despite making very regressive and detrimental comments like that out of sheer fucking laziness. Shit like that really pisses me off. Gay men are no different to straight men. If a man likes another man well then to me that's all about interest and it's no big deal, just like the way one straight guy could like busty blondes and another could like leggy brunettes. Comments like that give people the impression that we all think that way when we dont.

In regards to using the toilet, he should respect the women's toilets. He's not transgendered or female, he has no right to be in there. And I have actually given out to women for using the men's toilets before. Respect is a two way thing and it should apply to both genders regardless of sexuality.

Actually, I have an issue with this. I, myself, never used a man's bathroom and I do not like seeing girls thinking it's so great themselves to use the man's bathroom. They honestly think it's like exploring some awesome dead guy's tomb, and not knowing what's going to be in there... It's just guys peeing honestly.

I have gone in one once, but not to use the bathroom, passed out at a 30 Seconds to Mars concert and my boyfriend and his friend's sister dragged my ass in a bathroom to throw some water on me... Not too many guys were pleased that that were two girls in their bathroom. Even though there were other issues happening and the guys were not too pleased to begin with, some of them were bitching about how there's girls in the bathroom.

Not too many guys enjoy a girl's company in their bathroom. Some might, but a good majority of them don't. I have witnessed a lot of girls entering man's bathrooms and seeing dirty stare downs not just from other women, but from men as well. So, yeah there might not be some on here that wouldn't mind, but there are people who do.

I was gonna ask the same thing!!! LOL

Anyway... i think it depends more on the women being there at the moment. I think it was pretty fresh of those guys to just waltz in! They should ask the women there first!!!

If the reverse situation arose, and a lesbian wanted to use the mens room, id b all cool w it, but I'd b pissed if she didnt ask permission from the ppl using the facilities first.

if there is no one using the bathroom right that second... id say its ok as long as they made it quick and ninja style... and they warned the ladies who potentially could walk in and feel uncomfortable w them in there.

Common courtesy is key

Yes, that street is notorious for being primarily filled with gay people.

Gay man â‰a woman

Being homosexual and being a woman are not the same thing. Unless invited, I couldn't percieve a reason to join the other sex's restroom. Women have periods, practically, he's not a woman. And if there is blood coming from his dick, that's a medical condition he should get inspected. As is, I think that is the actual barrier. Forget what people gossip about in their respective restrooms, we have never had/want to share in the experience of menstrus. For all I know, women could be talking about that in there and having had that experience they reserve the right to that level of privacy even if all they do is make it look like a bloodbath stage in mortal kombat.

I'm aware that that is probably not what is going on. But equal treatment of sexual preference doesn't not mean equal right to privacy of gender. Purposefully confusing the subjects is both mean and unfair to both sexes.

Usually in clubs I see women try to cut into the men's bathroom, and usually the bouncer kicks them out. Men also (due to the nature of being humans) may want to gossip, and not share their bathroom experience with women.

As I said, if there were co-ed style bathrooms, or the opposite gender invited the person that'd be one thing. But an understood rule in society is that we stay to our own gender bathrooms for a right to privacy of the opposite sex.

The hilarious part is I'm imagining how many homophobic men went in got done and ran out making the line a HELL of a lot shorter.

I must say, I've been in the girl's bathroom plenty of times. Well, when I was in high school, that is. I did go to an art school though, so pretty much half of the school was either gay or willing to be gay if you asked nicely. The girl's really didn't care, in fact they liked it. That said, in the real world, women are women, and penis is penis.

However, I am torn on the issue of being a gay man making me practically a woman. I don't think of myself as a woman, but going to the men's bathroom makes me uncomfortable. I still use it, of course, because it's not high school anymore, but I don't like it. I think all gay men are different in this regard though.

Personally, the men's bathroom kind of freaks me out. I don't like being alone with other men in a place I consider very personal. It has nothing to do with my sexual attraction to other men, but more to do with a deep rooted dislike of masculine "energy" so to speak. I can't speak for everyone, but I think a lot of gay men feel an inclination to do things with women. Until high school where everyone was a little more open minded, I was made to feel like I was not part of the group(males), by the other students and my family, so I grew closer to girls. Now that I'm all grown up, hehe, I'm so hard wired to relate to women that I just cannot adjust to a strictly male atmosphere.

This doesn't excuse that guy's idiocy, but I preferred to speak about the idea of sexuality and gender identity.

On the note of the man, I'm positive that if the line to the men's restroom hadn't been long, he would have never considered going into the women's restroom.

I strongly feel he was just being a lazy fuck.


On the note of your post, I completely understand your dislike of masculine energy, and I must admit you and I are very much different in that case. While you oppose the energy, I crave it.

However, my preference of masculine energy has no reflection on my own use of public restrooms. I hate multi-person restrooms, and I do my best to use one-person restrooms whenever I get the chance. Still, if I have to use the other, I'll use the men's restroom out of common sense that I don't have to squat to take a piss.

That gay guy has always saw himself as a man, proof of such is his use of the word "practically." As I've stated before, if he genuinely saw himself as a woman, I wouldn't have a problem with him using the women's restroom. In fact, I would've advocated it if I was there.

However, he is a man, and he sees himself as one. He needs to act accordingly.

I dont think being gay makes you practically a woman. Hell, as you can see I crossdress, but Im not a woman lol.

Unless you have SRS your still a man, and should use the corresponding restroom.