THANK YOU SHINNOX! The KISS ARMY STRIKES AGAIN. Thats exactly what I was trying to say. Hollywood knows people will watch gay cowboys, its a gimmick. A similar movie about a straight couple wouldnt have drawn near as much acclaim or attention. And the same thing happens with minorities. Now I suppose Im racist too.

Ahh of course, how could I not see that point?! Hollywood is trying to keep the man down again. *Yawn*. That arguement is old. Try to come up with something a little more modern. However, it's pointless trying to talk with you, I'd get a better response from a cardboard box. So I will no longer be discussing this amazing film, or anything else with you from this point onward. You're completely insufferable (which I'm sure you'll have to look up in the dictionary.) So just post your shitty Pei-Mei picture, like you do in every other thread, and then be gone with you.

Okay,

Homosexual: One thing

Cowboys: a Sterotypical macho American archtype.



This is for a select audience.


So many people will have a problem with this. This thread have proven that point.

Pink Im not trying to offend you or anybody else. I just have strong feelings about this topic. Im entitiled to that.

as do I.

Seeing two homosexual having sex on the screen is gross. Also I disapprove any forms of Sex in TV or Movie, Main reason is sex in the show outside of innuendos does tend to take away from the story of the Movie.



That is the same way with the Violence too. Too much violence with too little of story is bad also.


Sex and Violence will take away from the story.


I do tend to favor the more a gorefest with a story than a love story with sex.


From some of the review of this movie, it is for a selected audience.


Regardless of what people think of me, I am not the type of guy that would enjoy a homosexual Love Story.

You think so? What do you think the ratio of men to women was in the Old West? Pretty high (in other words, a lot more men than women). In such situations, homosexual behavior tends to be more common than otherwise. I'm not especially well-versed on the history of homosexuality among cowboys, but if it was common, why shouldn't there be a movie about it? Otherwise the Clint Eastwood and John Wayne movies are giving us a one-sided look at a historical period that was much more complex.

That's pretty fucked up.

..destroying the genre?.....john wayne and clint eastwood being replaced by gay cowboys?

are you serious?

just because a cowboy movie today doesnt fit with some made however long ago they were. that doesnt mean that the WHOLE entire cowboy genre is gonna turn gay. moviemakers arnt gonna from now on make their movies emotional just because one movie was succesful.

and seriously how do you know how the characters will react in a certain situation, do oyu know about these people to the point where you can predict what there gonna do next? they are fictional characters. But i suppose after admiring these rugged, masculine, absolutely two dimentional characters, you can almost know there actions. because according to you, that was the typical cowboy personality laid out and it must be followed because people love the same thing over and over

also im sure the whole western wasnt filled with tough guy cowboys who all looked similar and acted the same.

and whoever said that the characters in this movie will replace old characters from completely different movies. this movie has nothign to do with any other owboy/western genre movies. it wasnt made to be compared to them and shouldnt be.

If a movie like this is succesful then it will be succesful and that will be the end of it. no gay cowboy spinoffs, no gay cowboy genre.


ok im done.


i havent actually seen this movie though. its not out in australia, and im not really interested in cowboy movies. i might rent it someday, but i just had a problem with the things said about it before he had even seen the movie

^Sadly man thats exactly what it will lead to. Look at how the success of Will and Grace has effected sitcoms. It seems like every show has to do a homo epoisode now.

On the post about how the charectors would act think about it. Gay men are 99% of the time more feminine than heterosexuals its been proven. Cowboys were tough, dirty, and Macho dudes. I dont doubt that theyre were gay ppl in the old west, but they worked other professions, because the life of a cowboy is not well suited to a homosexual lifestyle. If there were homosexual cowboys (and I know there probalbly was) they werent open about it I gurantee that, because the time period was very very homophobic, if a gay was open back in those times he would probalbly get beat up, ran out of town, or even hanged. Think about it.

That is fairly revolting what you just said, DeathScepter.

Violence scenes are way more entertainign than sex scenes.

...and you call yourself a hetero.

O come on. Sex scenes are pretty boring. Up DOwn Up down Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Violence is much more entertaining.

That's the most retarded stat I've ever seen

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I went to see that movie a week after it first came out. It was "one of the best movies" I've ever seen. As my sweety said. I loved the story line, but I wouldn't recommend it for people who aren't fond of seeing men intimate with eachother. The sad part about that movie is that it still happens today. Men who are in love with one another are still a bit afraid to find out what others will say. Thats why they stay in the closet... which in my opinion is a pity... if a man and a women can fall in love, then why not a man and a man? Or a woman and a woman?

In movies we always see heavy sex scenes between men and women, and it's accepted. But I noticed when I went to see BrokeBack, that people were appalled and disgusted by the scenes. Why? It's no different from a man and a woman being together. I know that my family DID NOT like it because of the homosexuality. And that really nagged on my nerves, I mean there isn't anything wrong with love being displayed. I know my parents would probably flip out if they found out that I'm bisexual. Thats why they don't know. The reason why I don't say anything about it is I want my family to accept me. They barely accept me the way I am today.

I believe that the strongest type of love is sometimes displayed by homosexuals. I'm not saying this because I am bi, but because I can see it. The movie was a perfect example of it, Jack displayed true love, more than Leger's character. When you love someone, it shouldn't matter if they are the same sex as you or not.

People say love is blind. Well I have something to say to them, Love is blind, BUT it's blind in all the right ways. When a person is in love with another, they don't give a damn if they are older, younger, dark skinned, pale skinned, homosexual, hetersexual, bisexual. All that person wants is for the other person to love them back, treat them right (even then some don't care), and love them so much that they would do anything for the other person.

I'm sorry this is so long, I just really wanted to get my point across. Oh by the way, about the movie, Jerrod, I'll watch it again with you if you want.... but be prepared for some full blown emotions.

Very true, yet in all reality, the sex scene was over as quickly as it started, and nothing was shown. Even though it was rough, it was tastefully done.

There's a big difference. Sitcoms are about everyday life, and as homosexuality gains greater acceptance in society, it simply makes sense for there to be gay characters on sitcoms. What would be the point of another movie about gay cowboys? It would be a ridiculously blatant knockoff.


The image of the limp-wristed, lisping gay man is a stereotype of modern gay culture, probably based on the assumption that homosexuality is usually caused by the lack of a strong male role model or father figure. Effeminacy and homosexuality are seen as parallel results of a single cause, related to each other, but not caused by each other. The point is, homosexuality is not an observable physical trait in and of itself, and as such, a pair of gay cowboys, taking care not to draw attention to themselves and keeping their relationship descreet, would probably not be very conspicuous.

true true. I was just stating that people shouldn't accept one thing and not another...

Anyone can just simply pull out a stat out of their ass.

And this has been proven....how? Please stop while youre ahead. Youre making yourself look bad.

I have to agree.

C'mon you don't remember when those people came to your house and compared your masculinity to that of every guy in the world??? I was in the 86 percentile.

Do you people ever actually associate with gay people? I do. all of them so far meet the stereotypical flamer profile. Stereotypes come form somewhere dont they?

Actually I do. I had two brothers who were gay and I have a lot of gay friends. Both men and women, and most of them don't match your stereotypical views. In fact, they all hate being stereotyped. It's clear that you don't associate with gay people and that you have never met a homosexual person in your entire life beyond the satire that you see on tv.

Here's a stereotype for you. You're the biggest wannabe I've ever seen in my entire life. You do things that you think will make people think you're cool, but in reality you're just another yokel who sells propain and watches football every sunday. You'd follow a crowd off the side of a cliff if you thought it would earn you some popularity. Yet, you think you're different and interesting because you have an asian bondage fetish, which only makes you look like even more of a freak. Hmm, and come to think of it you're probably gay, but only too deep in denial to admit it, especially since you portrayed yourself as a female when first coming here. It's obvious you're a virgin from your prior post in this thread where you described sex as "up, down, up down." and "boring". Give good old Rosy a rest, take a cold shower, buy a nice shirt, and go find yourself an asian, whether you want a boy or a girl, and then get back to me on the topic of sex.

You have so much to learn, but you're too dense to get past what your black and white tv tells you. Grow up, get a mind of your own, experience life, and move on. This thread can be closed.