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posted05/13/2012 01:12 AM (UTC)by
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First of all, I'm making this thread assuming everyone is mature enough to discuss this. If you have nothing useful to add to this discussion, please leave.
So, one of my best friends (who will be kept anonymous) is a gay 17 year old. He's been with his boyfriend for 2 years. He has been thinking about a circumcision for awhile now. He believes it gives more pleasure during intercourse, and makes cleaning easier. I honestly didn't know what to tell him, which is why I came here to ask my male friends to give me him some advice. We have read many articles about circumcisions in adulthood, but we don't have enough information to make him come up with a decision.
Here is one.
If you don't know what a circumcision is.
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01/15/2012 11:32 PM (UTC)
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Well I'm circumcised and I think it's fine. Of course it's not like I had a choice in the matter since it happened when I was a baby.

But if I had to choose now I would probably avoid getting one. I don't think there is anything wrong with being uncircumcised and I doubt being circumcised really is that much different. If I ever had a son I wouldn't make him get one.
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01/15/2012 11:43 PM (UTC)
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An uncircumcised penis has more nervesin it and I'd logically deduce that sensation would be higher in an uncircumcised penis (i.e. increased sexual pleasure).



CIrcumcision might reduce the risk or spread of STD's but if you don't come in contact with them, you can't get them, so it really doesn't matter.


Another important thing, has he had medical problems in relation to his uncircumcised penis? If not, I would avoid any and all medical procedures that are not undertaken as a necessity, there is a risk of infection, prolonged healing, and things of that nature.


Additionally, cleaning a circumcized v.s. uncircumsized penis doesn't have a notable difference, the area isn't that massive to make cleaning a chore.


I guess another thing to consider, that's our natural state. My view, if I had the choice I would have avoided circumcision.
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01/15/2012 11:44 PM (UTC)
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Well, to me personally, I don't think it matters. I think it's better if you get it when you're a baby, because you don't remember the pain.

As a Gay man myself. When I meet guys(when I'm single), its not a big deal if the guy is circumsized or uncircumsized. I don't put a lot of emphasis on that. I guess that's a matter of self satisfaction.
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01/15/2012 11:44 PM (UTC)
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I know of some guys and girls who refuse to go near an uncut dick. It's unreal!

Personally, I'm uncut, and I quite like it that way. Because the glans isn't naturally exposed it's much more sensitive than a cut penis, which makes sex better. The only thing about uncut penis' is that you do need to be a lot more thorough when your cleaning especially if you ejaculate a lot, as residue semen could dry out and become stagant (but thats very rarely an issue if you shower or bathe daily). There's also the fact that the small string of flesh that holds your foreskin onto your glans could snap if you forcibly peel the foreskin back with too much preassure/speed, but I could only see that happeing if your really drunk and try jam it into somewhere too tight too soon.

I'd say he probably doesn't need to get it cut unless there's way too much skin thats interfering with the sex. There's not much of a difference really.
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01/15/2012 11:47 PM (UTC)
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I'm uncircumcised and every girl I've been with has been fine with it. I always hear things that women don't like it, but it doesn't really seem to be much of a problem. I wouldn't recommend getting circumcised, especially when you're older. The skin around the head of the penis has already been protecting it for so long, that without it the head will be extremely sensitive. Not to come across as dirty/disgusting or anything (just being honest) but I know that I tend to have a lot of sensitivity there since I'm not circumcised and I think it actually makes for better sex, especially with oral lol wink I wouldn't make my kids get circumcised, since I feel like there's no real need for it. As long as you know how to take care of yourself, there's nothing with being uncut, and I have yet to meet a girl who hated it either. (Or at least they didn't say so to my face). So I really don't think your friend should go through with it, it's just not worth it, especially once you're older.
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01/15/2012 11:49 PM (UTC)
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Toxik Wrote:
Well, to me personally, I don't think it matters. I think it's better if you get it when you're a baby, because you don't remember the pain.

As a Gay man myself. When I meet guys(when I'm single), its not a big deal if the guy is circumsized or uncircumsized. I don't put a lot of emphasis on that. I guess that's a matter of self satisfaction.


No matter where you look, there will be people supporting both sides. I know more women who prefer Circumcised, personally. I guess it is considered more modern.

I remember reading an article that claimed wide study preferred circumcised as well.

I wont even go into personal judgment. I am a straight man. I don't think it should ever matter unless for health reasons. If you females (or males) love a man, who cares?
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01/15/2012 11:57 PM (UTC)
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It's preferred most likely because it's so common, in the West and Islamic countries, circumcision is the standard,it's much more rare to encounter someone with an uncircumcized penis, people prefer what they're used to seeing so to speak.

In other parts of the world, circumcision isn't nearly as common and I'm sure stats in those parts of the world would prefer an uncircumcized penis.

It doesn't really matter either way though, the penis functions precisely the same, not to mention if that's an issue, the person probably isn't worth having around regardless.
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(Erik)
01/16/2012 12:13 AM (UTC)
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I love my penis. I am circumsized. If I wasn't, I'd love my penis regardless. I don't know what it's like growing up with an uncircumsized penis, but I hear that it is more pleasurable, but my penis is plenty pleasurable so I don't feel like I am really missing out. Ignorance is bliss. I wouldn't recommend that your friend take a blade to his dick. But then again I don't know what it's like to be in his position. Yeah, people have preferences with genitalia, but people also have preferences with things like how you wear your pubic hair, haha. I wouldn't sweat it if I were him, people are going to love him and want him to play with his penis whether or not he's cut.
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01/16/2012 02:19 AM (UTC)
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LOLOL PENUS!!!!

jk!

I am from a country where its most common to be uncut, however, due to the fact that i had phismosis, i was circumcised anyway. I was never self conscious about it.
Frankly, i like it, lol. Its convenient... its cleaner... no folds and no cheese... and when i look in the mirror i dont see a droopy-eyed anteater. (that last one was a joke)

Anyway, Ive seen a ton of ppl making a big deal out of it... one of my roommates had foreskin envy or something hahaha he really resented being cut.
i really dont think its any bigger deal than having an innie or outie belly button.
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01/16/2012 02:50 AM (UTC)
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Well I'm uncircumcised and so is boyfriend, though he has almost no foreskin.

Being experienced and living in the UK I've seen both. Though I have seen a few more with foreskin than ones without.

Personally I prefer uncircumcised guys as you get a tugging motion if you get my drift. Circumcised guys don't have the skin for it obviously.

I know it's said to be cleaner without your hood but if you wash everyday like me would you trade in the extra sensitivity for that?

It should only be done for medical reasons personally. I don't believe in doing it for unfounded religious reasons, let that person decide when they come of age. But I will still respect those people with religious beliefs. Whether I agree with it or not, who am I to judge?
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01/16/2012 04:02 AM (UTC)
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I say just leave it alone
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01/16/2012 05:23 AM (UTC)
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UNcircumcised is better. Familiar with the condoms that are "ribbed for her pleasure"? That's what a penis with foreskin feels like.
Also, the foreskin is really sensitive, so it makes great sex even better.
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01/16/2012 05:45 AM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:
Circumcised is better. Familiar with the condoms that are "ribbed for her pleasure"? That's what a penis with foreskin feels like.
Also, the foreskin is really sensitive, so it makes great sex even better.


You mean uncircumcised, right?
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(Erik)
01/16/2012 05:57 AM (UTC)
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Ribbed condoms simulate foreskin?
I always thought it was simulating veins.
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01/16/2012 06:07 AM (UTC)
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Edit: Nevermind
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01/16/2012 06:47 AM (UTC)
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Uncircumsized (stated already by Espio) adds more "feeling" to things like sex. I'm not going to speak for everyone else and say it's better, but then again, I wouldn't know.

There is also this irrational fear that it's "dirty" to be Circumsized, such as cleaning and STD's and such, but for the most part that isn't the case.

Also, I've had every woman who has ever slept with both tell me that Uncut was better, if that helps any wink
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01/16/2012 12:40 PM (UTC)
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I've never got the whole "Easier to clean" argument, just roll that bad boy back. Its not hard.

I think the sexual argument is the opposite of what OP said, you don't feel as much so you last longer?

I'm not sure to be honest, Everyone has a leg warmer on it where I live.
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01/16/2012 02:17 PM (UTC)
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I was born and raised in England, and I specifically remember my friend and I laughing about a Jewish classmate of ours cus he was cut - it was still that uncommon in mid-nineties Britain.

Then I moved to Canada in 1997 when I was 11, and everyone was circumsized. And I was a little self-conscious about it, cus it seemed quite rare in North America to be uncut like me.
Plus there was always that persistent theory that (North American) girls prefer cut, as mentioned above.

Espio872 Wrote:

In other parts of the world, circumcision isn't nearly as common and I'm sure stats in those parts of the world would prefer an uncircumcized penis.


Last year I moved to Japan, and this holds true, at least here in Asia. (East) Asian men just don't get their foreskins cut off. According to one of my Japanese ex-girlfriends, it's just not done.
She'd lived in America, been exposed to both, but in the end she said she preferred uncut. Probably, as also mentioned above, cus it's what's normal here.

I think porn, if anything, does a lot to perpetuate the 'cut is better' mentality of North America. Think about where the majority got our first exposure to hardcore sex, and think of the proportion of cut to uncut men in American-made porn.

Which is better? Can't really comparetongue as I had no choice in the matter, only if someone here has had an adult circumcision and chimes in can we know both sides, but personally I would assume from the common-held notion that uncut is more sensitive and therefore more pleasurable, I'd prefer to leave any sons I have intact.

As they say and I always maintain, if it aint broke...

Edit - However, condoms can be a bitch with foreskin, and the frenelum (sp?) - that length of taut skin that attaches the bell-end to the foreskin can really hurt if stretched and tugged hard. I've heard of people ripping it being too forceful. Not so pleasurable then...grin
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01/16/2012 03:00 PM (UTC)
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I know no single person in my vicinity circumsized. In the northern half of Europe being uncircumsized seems more common, at least in the Nord. I for one would only consider getting circumsized if I was Jewish. For sexual or self-esteem purposes, no. I have a feeling that this topic may actually be about yourself, O/G (admit nothing). At the end of the day, I would recommend to do it because right now it seems that the only think pulling you(r foreskin) back is being afraid, despite that you really desire for the operation. I don't think you'll feel too much regret for the circumcision afterwards. Unless, you'll get an idea of a better investment (I would).
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01/16/2012 07:38 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:
I know no single person in my vicinity circumsized. In the northern half of Europe being uncircumsized seems more common, at least in the Nord. I for one would only consider getting circumsized if I was Jewish. For sexual or self-esteem purposes, no. I have a feeling that this topic may actually be about yourself, O/G (admit nothing). At the end of the day, I would recommend to do it because right now it seems that the only think pulling you(r foreskin) back is being afraid, despite that you really desire for the operation. I don't think you'll feel too much regret for the circumcision afterwards. Unless, you'll get an idea of a better investment (I would).

LOL!! Noooo it's definitely not about me!!
But anyways, thanks for the input guys. My friend really appreciates it. Goddess loves you all for helping him <3
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01/16/2012 08:21 PM (UTC)
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Kamionero Wrote:
You mean uncircumcised, right?

Yes, that's what I meant.
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01/16/2012 08:42 PM (UTC)
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It seems all of the circumcised men like their penises in this thread, and all of the uncircumcised men like their penises in this thread.

I was wondering about the history of circumcision. It honestly seems superfluous, even though I am satisfied with the procedure.

The origination of male circumcision is not known with certainty. It has been variously proposed that it began as a religious sacrifice, as a rite of passage marking a boy's entrance into adulthood, as a form of sympathetic magic to ensure virility or fertility, as a means of enhancing sexual pleasure, as an aid to hygiene where regular bathing was impractical, as a means of marking those of higher social status, as a means of humiliating enemies and slaves by symbolic castration, as a means of differentiating a circumcising group from their non-circumcising neighbors, as a means of discouraging masturbation or other socially proscribed sexual behaviors, as a means of removing "excess" pleasure, as a means of increasing a man's attractiveness to women, as a demonstration of one's ability to endure pain, or as a male counterpart to menstruation or the breaking of the hymen, or to copy the rare natural occurrence of a missing foreskin of an important leader, and as a display of disgust of the smegma produced by the foreskin. It has been suggested that the custom of circumcision gave advantages to tribes that practiced it and thus led to its spread.[1][2][3] Darby describes these theories as "conflicting", and states that "the only point of agreement among proponents of the various theories is that promoting good health had nothing to do with it."[2] Immerman et al. suggest that circumcision causes lowered sexual arousal of pubescent males, and hypothesize that this was a competitive advantage to tribes practising circumcision, leading to its spread.[4] Wilson suggests that circumcision reduces insemination efficiency, reducing a man's capacity for extra-pair fertilizations by impairing sperm competition. Thus, men who display this signal of sexual obedience, may gain social benefits, if married men are selected to offer social trust and investment preferentially to peers who are less threatening to their paternity.[5] It is possible that circumcision arose independently in different cultures for different reasons.

Also. Can someone please correct the spelling in the title.
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01/16/2012 09:09 PM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:
Also. Can someone please correct the spelling in the title.

But Unircumsized people are better without the "C"...
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01/16/2012 10:26 PM (UTC)
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Espio872 Wrote:
It's preferred most likely because it's so common, in the West and Islamic countries, circumcision is the standard,it's much more rare to encounter someone with an uncircumcized penis, people prefer what they're used to seeing so to speak.

In other parts of the world, circumcision isn't nearly as common and I'm sure stats in those parts of the world would prefer an uncircumcized penis.


It doesn't really matter either way though, the penis functions precisely the same, not to mention if that's an issue, the person probably isn't worth having around regardless.


West, as in the geographical Anglosphere and it's immediate neighbours I presume.

Because if you count the overall European mostly-christian world, then circumcision comes as a minority. It is practically unheard that someone would let himself be circumcised -inherent jew populace notwithstanding in Central or Eastern Europe.

I consider it pointless mutilation of the body, the convenience it offers is merely an extra one minute in shower away.

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