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06/12/2007 10:29 PM (UTC)
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Try proving your brothers by getting two pictures of u and Kinggloomy.

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06/12/2007 10:32 PM (UTC)
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So elnino is allowed to have a brother on MKO, but I can't?

kingloomy is kinda pissed btw.


Well you haver to be able to prove your not making a clone account and im pretty sure they infact did prove it to the mods here. The other thing is they could have to different IP addresses.

Unless your being a smartass.sad
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06/12/2007 10:38 PM (UTC)
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kingjolly Wrote:
So elnino is allowed to have a brother on MKO, but I can't?

kingloomy is kinda pissed btw.


Well you haver to be able to prove your not making a clone account and im pretty sure they infact did prove it to the mods here. The other thing is they could have to different IP addresses.

Unless your being a smartass.sad


If they are brothers they could have the same address. I don't think this would be an issue if they didn't. I might be a sucker, but i think he would have fessed up by now if it was a joke. It doesn't seem like him to scam us.
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06/12/2007 10:42 PM (UTC)
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Well, can anyone help me with the question I posted on the last page?
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06/12/2007 11:27 PM (UTC)
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If they are brothers they could have the same address. I don't think this would be an issue if they didn't. I might be a sucker, but i think he would have fessed up by now if it was a joke. It doesn't seem like him to scam us.


Actually,Your wrong.

You cannot have the same IP address as somebody else. The reason for why is because then the mods think that it is just a clone account. Well Kingjolly is a funny guy and i wouldnt put it pass him to be fooling us,Then again i could be wrong.tongue
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06/12/2007 11:31 PM (UTC)
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5animals Wrote:
If they are brothers they could have the same address. I don't think this would be an issue if they didn't. I might be a sucker, but i think he would have fessed up by now if it was a joke. It doesn't seem like him to scam us.


Actually,Your wrong.

You cannot have the same IP address as somebody else. The reason for why is because then the mods think that it is just a clone account. Well Kingjolly is a funny guy and i wouldnt put it pass him to be fooling us,Then again i could be wrong.tongue


You can if you are on the same computer. That is kind of the whole point of this isn't it? I think you are misunderstanding what i said.
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06/12/2007 11:54 PM (UTC)
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I think it's pretty insane that the mods can see what IP address you have. And who cares if you change your name or have a clone account? It's just a forum and people don't care.
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You can if you are on the same computer. That is kind of the whole point of this isn't it? I think you are misunderstanding what i said.


Ok i realize now i said that wrong.

My mistake, Ok you can have the same IP address,BUT you still have to prove that your not just cloning your original account. Just like El Nino said here.

Elnino Wrote:
Try proving your brothers by getting two pictures of u and Kinggloomy.

We used Myspace. Good ol' myspace.


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06/13/2007 12:21 AM (UTC)
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I think it's pretty insane that the mods can see what IP address you have. And who cares if you change your name or have a clone account? It's just a forum and people don't care.


Exactly, mods act like cloning is a federal offense. When no one gives a fuck really.
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06/13/2007 12:53 AM (UTC)
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Ya, but MKO could end up with 50 million VenoMarks. Imagine. Goddammit I said imagine!
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06/13/2007 01:15 AM (UTC)
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mKomBATouttahell Wrote:
JaredJayrod Wrote:
I think it's pretty insane that the mods can see what IP address you have. And who cares if you change your name or have a clone account? It's just a forum and people don't care.


Exactly, mods act like cloning is a federal offense. When no one gives a fuck really.


You guys don't but we do. This is a privately owned site with it's own rules and regulations. If you don't like it, leave. Thanks.
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06/13/2007 01:34 AM (UTC)
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06/13/2007 01:40 AM (UTC)
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Dude, your avatar is like, not working! OMG CALL (1800)-98228427-47-468!
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06/13/2007 02:11 AM (UTC)
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Yeah.......OK.

For the dude that said something about his friends changing, it happens overtime. You HAVE to chnage to stay alive and to get by in the world. I'm sure that when shyriu was younger, he was a good person, but he's not now.

Well, some people don't change... Like you. I'm sure you've been a retard for a long time.
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06/13/2007 02:17 AM (UTC)
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gnrlies1992 Wrote:
Yeah.......OK.

For the dude that said something about his friends changing, it happens overtime. You HAVE to chnage to stay alive and to get by in the world. I'm sure that when shyriu was younger, he was a good person, but he's not now.

Well, some people don't change... Like you. I'm sure you've been a retard for a long time.


wow, such wise word from someone who has his head up his own ass ALL the time
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06/13/2007 02:21 AM (UTC)
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mKomBATouttahell Wrote:
JaredJayrod Wrote:
I think it's pretty insane that the mods can see what IP address you have. And who cares if you change your name or have a clone account? It's just a forum and people don't care.


Exactly, mods act like cloning is a federal offense. When no one gives a fuck really.


It's an issue when one username gets banned and the other one doesn't because it's the "brother", when it could well be the same person (and usually is) using that as an excuse to mess around doing ban worthy things on the site and still get away with it.

How about if they were to ban someone who posted html causing an endless stream of pop ups with porn, only to have him or her make more clone accounts to continue doing the exact same thing over and over again spamming the boards and ruining everyones experience on the site? It's happened before.

Want those people to keep coming back over and over again? posting 60 or 70 messages in any given thread abd being abusive to users? Don't think you would. And if you say you would, try having a forum of your own with people doing that. Your forum won't last very long because people will get fed up and leave.
And being a moderator to have to get rid of all those messages and accounts day after day on a site this large is trying. Do it yourself and you would begin to understand.

I'm actually the one you can blame for putting the hammer down on cloned accounts as when I was Forum Director on the site it got completely out of hand. Something had to be done, so clone hunting was part of the job.

And as to the ip addresses being visible to moderators, every website you go to on the web can see your ip address and have it logged so really it's not something that you should worry about.
Moderators and Staff on site are chosen carefully and with consideration to trust and other qualities and if they were found abusing the system i'm certain they would be punished for it.

It all comes down to what ~Crow~ decides. Obviously he sees a need for clone accounts to be terminated otherwise they would be rampant on the site.
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06/13/2007 02:24 AM (UTC)
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Jonin01 Wrote:
mKomBATouttahell Wrote:
JaredJayrod Wrote:
I think it's pretty insane that the mods can see what IP address you have. And who cares if you change your name or have a clone account? It's just a forum and people don't care.


Exactly, mods act like cloning is a federal offense. When no one gives a fuck really.


It's an issue when one username gets banned and the other one doesn't because it's the "brother", when it could well be the same person (and usually is) using that as an excuse to mess around doing ban worthy things on the site and still get away with it.

How about if they were to ban someone who posted html causing an endless stream of pop ups with porn, only to have him or her make more clone accounts to continue doing the exact same thing over and over again spamming the boards and ruining everyones experience on the site? It's happened before.

Want those people to keep coming back over and over again? posting 60 or 70 messages in any given thread abd being abusive to users? Don't think you would. And if you say you would, try having a forum of your own with people doing that. Your forum won't last very long because people will get fed up and leave.
And being a moderator to have to get rid of all those messages and accounts day after day on a site this large is trying. Do it yourself and you would begin to understand.

I'm actually the one you can blame for putting the hammer down on cloned accounts as when I was Forum Director on the site it got completely out of hand. Something had to be done, so clone hunting was part of the job.

And as to the ip addresses being visible to moderators, every website you go to on the web can see your ip address and have it logged so really it's not something that you should worry about.
Moderators and Staff on site are chosen carefully and with consideration to trust and other qualities and if they were found abusing the system i'm certain they would be punished for it.

It all comes down to what ~Crow~ decides. Obviously he sees a need for clone accounts to be terminated otherwise they would be rampant on the site.


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06/13/2007 02:30 AM (UTC)
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Silly boy.tongue
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06/13/2007 02:32 AM (UTC)
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JaredJayrod Wrote:
I think it's pretty insane that the mods can see what IP address you have. And who cares if you change your name or have a clone account? It's just a forum and people don't care.


No, it makes perfect sense for The Mods to see people's I.P. Addresses, because they would otherwise have no way of detecting if people were making clone accounts. And that's stupid for you to say "who cares if you change your name or have a clone account?", because people DO care. I would care, because any asshole could flame, spam, flood/etc., and they would never be permanently banned because they would just make clones. And yeah, it is an Internet Forum, but people do care.

mKomBATouttahell Wrote:
Exactly, mods act like cloning is a federal offense. When no one gives a fuck really.


The Mods don't act like cloning is a federal offense... it is a fucking RULE. And about you saying "When no one gives a fuck really.", I will just say what I said before, that people do care. Just because you don't care, that doesn't mean other people don't care. And by the way, I agree with everything Jonin said. -Ryan C.
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06/13/2007 02:39 AM (UTC)
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Im with Mkouttahelll. I dont give a shit. Just because YOU care doesnt mean everyone else does and just because YOU still wear diapers doesnt mean everyone else does.
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06/13/2007 02:45 AM (UTC)
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prodigy004 Wrote:
Im with Mkouttahelll. I dont give a shit. Just because YOU care doesnt mean everyone else does and just because YOU still wear diapers doesnt mean everyone else does.


I never said just because I fucking care, that everyone else cares. I was just saying that just because JaredJayrod and mKomBATouttahell do not care, that doesn't mean everyone else does not care. -Ryan C.
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06/13/2007 02:47 AM (UTC)
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No, it makes perfect sense for The Mods to see people's I.P. Addresses, because they would otherwise have no way of detecting if people were making clone accounts. And that's stupid for you to say "who cares if you change your name or have a clone account?", because people DO care. I would care, because any asshole could flame, spam, flood/etc., and they would never be permanently banned because they would just make clones. And yeah, it is an Internet Forum, but people do care.


I agree to disagree.

The reason is because no matter what, nobody can be permanently banned either way. There was this one guy Spamming and Flaming Me and Check in this one thread. Everytime he would make a new id,He would get banned. He still comes back and still does the same thing. Dont get me wrong i know there isnt much that the mods can do about it,But it is just very annoying.

So my point is,Whether the mods can see the IP addresses or not,It still doesnt change the fact that any asshole like you said can still Flame,Spam,Flood,Etc and still get away with it.wink
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06/13/2007 02:52 AM (UTC)
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KARATE Wrote:
RyanRaiden Wrote:
No, it makes perfect sense for The Mods to see people's I.P. Addresses, because they would otherwise have no way of detecting if people were making clone accounts. And that's stupid for you to say "who cares if you change your name or have a clone account?", because people DO care. I would care, because any asshole could flame, spam, flood/etc., and they would never be permanently banned because they would just make clones. And yeah, it is an Internet Forum, but people do care.


I agree to disagree.

The reason is because no matter what, nobody can be permanently banned either way. There was this one guy Spamming and Flaming Me and Check in this one thread. Everytime he would make a new id,He would get banned. He still comes back and still does the same thing. Dont get me wrong i know there isnt much that the mods can do about it,But it is just very annoying.

So my point is,Whether the mods can see the IP addresses or not,It still doesnt change the fact that any asshole like you said can still Flame,Spam,Flood,Etc and still get away with it.wink


Yeah, MKO would be annoying as hell.
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06/13/2007 03:05 AM (UTC)
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This is a hilarious discussion.

Cloning is a serious issue, and I fully agree with Jonin. I think that's all that needs to be said.
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