Fictional Fight Club: Darth Vader vs Lord Voldemort
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posted09/22/2012 12:29 AM (UTC)by
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It's that time again, so let's get this started.

Last time you guys decided that Cthulu would defeat Godzilla and become the undisputed king of giant monsters.



This month we have a battle between Dark Lords as the villains from 2 of fiction's biggest franchises face off.

In the Red Corner we have the most feared sith in the Galaxy, DARTH VADER!!!


Darth Vader is half man half machine. He was originally a noble jedi who was corrupted by the dark side. He then helped destroy the jedi order and bring about the rise of the Galactic Empire.

His opponent in the Blue Corner is He Who Must Not be Named but I'm going to anyway, LORD VOLDEMORT!!!!


Tom Riddle was an orphan with a natural talent for magic. As he matured he became darker and more hateful and insisted on killing any who dared to challenge his power. He adopted the name of Voldemort and became the most feared wizard in history.

THE BREAKDOWN

Darth Vader

POWERS & ABILITIES

As a sith Darth Vader is able to manipulate and control the force. This allows him to move objects with his mind and be able to do various other abilities such as sense or read thoughts.

WEAPONS & EQUIPMENT

A Lightsaber. This laser sword is able to deflect many attacks and cut through just about anything.

ADVANTAGES
The lightsaber. I'd say his lightsaber would be more of an advantage in this fight rather than the force. The force allows him to manipulate the enviornment, which is something Voldemort can do as well, but the lightsaber could allow Darth Vader to deflect spells and end the fight quickly in close range.

Lord Voldemort

POWERS & ABILITIES

Magic. Lord Voldemort is a wizard and naturally is able to use a wide variety of spells in combat.

WEAPONS & EQUIPMENT

A wand. This pretty much just makes his magic more powerful and isn't much of a weapon in and of itself. But it is pointy so, you never know tongue

ADVANTAGES

Magic. Voldemort knows a wide variety of spells. While Darth Vader might easily be able to counter many of them, Voldemort is shown as being able to summon monsters, such as snakes, and uh, giant fire snakes, to assist him in battle, which might catch Vader off guard. Additionally his killing curse instantaneously kills whomever it touches. Darth needs to be on his game because one lapse could result in a bad case of death.

THE SCENARIO
Let's say that the two face off head to head in the cemetery from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire where Voldemort was resurrected. The place is covered in fog allowing both combatants a place to hide, and plenty of tombstones which can be used as potential weapons if thrown by either one.

So who is the superior dark lord? Both are very powerful but only one can come out on top. So who wins, Wizard or Sith? You decide.
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09/01/2012 11:42 PM (UTC)
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darth vader would own that harry potter clown. so my vote goes to vader. i hate all things potter. plus he can choke you with his force. shoot lightning from his hands and is very skilled in combat with his saber.
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09/02/2012 12:14 AM (UTC)
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Darth FUCKING Vader.

Why? The answer is simple, Vader just need to use force and get rid of Voldemort's wand.
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UlcaTron
09/02/2012 03:35 AM (UTC)
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Vader, no competition.
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09/02/2012 03:08 PM (UTC)
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Definitely Vader.
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Coltess
09/02/2012 07:38 PM (UTC)
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Of course Vader!
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09/02/2012 07:58 PM (UTC)
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I think if it had been Vader vs Ermac. Ermac would destroy D-Vader (MKD arch.)

But this fight isn't even close. Vader is a Sith Lord & has the Dark side of the Force.

If you do a battle. Do Darth Maul vs Ermac please. Early Incarnation of Ermac though. That imho could go either way.
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09/02/2012 09:19 PM (UTC)
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er....how do you know his saber deflects spells?
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09/02/2012 09:45 PM (UTC)
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dibula Wrote:
er....how do you know his saber deflects spells?

He don't need his sabre lol. He has the force. And if we're talking spells. Then Voldermort would of been a better match for Doctor Strange.
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09/03/2012 06:54 AM (UTC)
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The problem with the Killing Curse is that it can't kill something that isn't alive (like half of Vader's body), he could probably swat that spell away with his hand, along with other spells.

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09/04/2012 02:38 AM (UTC)
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Darth Vader.
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09/05/2012 03:38 AM (UTC)
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Excellent TK abilities including Force Push, Force Choke and Advanced Lightsaber Throw.

Durable Cybernetic Armor with good Force based resistance And Cyberneticly Enchanced Strength. So he can resistance physical related magick and force abilities well.

Strong Will. He is known to laugh off majority of the High Tier Force users's mental attacks with easy. His strong will was developed thru hardship, Intense Jedi and Sith Training, Battle and War.


High Intelligence. He is known for his leadership abilities within the Empire.

Extensive and Intense Jedi and Sith training from knowledgeable Jedi Masters(Obi Wan Mainly) and Sith Lords(Sidious mainly).

Known Kill List does include High Tiered Force users and Top Tiered Force users.

So Due to his hardiness will make him a Dedicated tank to many forms of Attack(Magick, Force or others). Adapting Nature due to his High Intelligence and Extensive and Intense Jedi and Sith training. And he is known for taking on Dangerous Force users before.
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09/05/2012 03:46 AM (UTC)
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I'm going with Vader.
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09/05/2012 04:38 AM (UTC)
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If only Voldy could use a spell that stops machines from operating.......like Darthy's breathing apparatus. Maybe he could try to use a spell that turns the ground into something with low traction, like ice or some other slippery substance?
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09/05/2012 04:46 AM (UTC)
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Voldemort has a vast array of abilities at his disposable compared to Vader. Assuming he has his horcruxes, he is also immortal. Also noted-Voldemort doesn't need his wand. He is a powerful enough wizard to operate without one, although one does amplify his powers and expand his abilities. He can also teleport.

Vader, in his suit, has had his powers crunched down tremendously. His cyber implants are more of a hindrance than a help. He would also have to connect his force powers to Voldemort, and assuming "force" and "magic" are essentially the same thing that is no easy task. Also, I really don't know why we are assuming a lightsaber can deflect magic. I doubt Voldemort will let Vader get in too close long enough to use it, being able to teleport and all.

Voldemort. Scenario: Vader and Voldemort are face to face. Voldemort teleports behind Vader before he can catch him in a force choke, and hits little Anny in the back with a Killing Curse.
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Get that ass BANNED

09/05/2012 10:42 AM (UTC)
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09/05/2012 06:57 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, but that was when Vader was feeling extremely emotional anyway. I doubt he'll have time to get so worked up in that fight. I would say starkiller has a much better chance.

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09/06/2012 01:27 AM (UTC)
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Don't forget that Vader as is in The Original Trilogy is 80% of Darth Sidious and Darth Sidious is justified Top Tier Force user pushing God Tier.


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09/06/2012 01:42 AM (UTC)
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Darth Vader can kill someone with the Choke.

Lord Voldemort can kill someone with almost any spell he uses, both with and without his wand.

FUCK Vader.
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Coltess
09/06/2012 02:07 AM (UTC)
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Also, Darth Vader has survived numerous times after sustaining massive damage to his suit, through the pure drive of his hate. Vader died because he had finally found peace and had become, internally, one with the force.
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09/06/2012 02:12 AM (UTC)
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coltess Wrote:
Also, Darth Vader has survived numerous times after sustaining massive damage to his suit, through the pure drive of his hate. Vader died because he had finally found peace and had become, internally, one with the force.




Nuff said.
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09/06/2012 10:24 AM (UTC)
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Darth Vader's hate is shit compared to a killing curse.

Also, Voldemort survived death on multiple occasions simply because he's a smart mother fucker.

Vader is a moody twat with girl problems.

Voldemort is a near-invulnerable mastermind who only got killed because Harry is a little twat who had everything handed to him.


As far as Vader being 80% of Sidious, that's cool. I'll ignore the fact that Voldemort can essentially kill, torture, control, shapeshift, burn, freeze, possess, explode, block, throw, crush, paralyze....etc...Vader, and assume Vader will choke him to death. Before Voldy teleports. Or casts a spell on him in mid choke anyway cause Voldemort is just as angry and malicious as Vader ever was.
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Ninja_Mime
09/06/2012 04:56 PM (UTC)
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Voldemort. He can do anything a force user can do, and much more. Dude can fly. And if we're talking about movie Voldemort, he can turn into smoke. Try choking that.

Vader's way slower than Voldemort anyway. I don't care about what he may be like in EU canon, I'm just going by what the trilogy shows. I agree that Sidious would probably make for a more even match, but even then he's limited.

Also, horcruxes.
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09/06/2012 05:35 PM (UTC)
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dibula Wrote:
Darth Vader's hate is shit compared to a killing curse.

Also, Voldemort survived death on multiple occasions simply because he's a smart mother fucker.

Vader is a moody twat with girl problems.

Voldemort is a near-invulnerable mastermind who only got killed because Harry is a little twat who had everything handed to him.


As far as Vader being 80% of Sidious, that's cool. I'll ignore the fact that Voldemort can essentially kill, torture, control, shapeshift, burn, freeze, possess, explode, block, throw, crush, paralyze....etc...Vader, and assume Vader will choke him to death. Before Voldy teleports. Or casts a spell on him in mid choke anyway cause Voldemort is just as angry and malicious as Vader ever was.



Only Anakin was a moody twat in the prequels in which opposite of Original Trilogy Vader in which was a far more impressive Military leader(does count for both the movies and associated EU), Impressive Sword Master, and capable force user.


Vader's Dark Rage ability resists many force/Magick attacks and compliments his health, Melee and Force abilities. A skillful Force user like Vader can control his force abilities on a high level. So Unlike the slower Force Choke within Original Trilogy in which Vader was being an asshole in taking sweet ass time in using it, he would boost it with Dark Rage and kill Voldemort. There is a damn good reason why Darth Sidious made Darth Vader 2nd in command of the Empire and Leader of the Military branch of the Galatic Empire. Not because he was good looking either. It is that Darth Vader is quite intelligent.


Also the course of his duties, Vader has taken on Several Jedi Masters in his life. Also His duel with Starkiller within Force Unleashed, Vader was holding back. Also with Luke Skywalker, He was holding back.

As for Starkiller, Vader personally trained Starkiller at high level and Starkiller did take on several high level jedi masters and knights.

As for Luke Skywalker within the EU, it is justifiable of placing him on High Tier Jedi Knight as of Return of the Jedi for many reasons. So when Yoda said within Return of the Jedi that Luke was more than ready to be a Jedi Knight. So Despite Luke's ability and training, Luke was no match for Vader.

Those two force users are quite capable.

So in tying everything together, Vader is one of the most dangerous Sith Lords within the Movies and EU. So Lord Voldemort would have a dangerous time in facing him due to several reason including several reasons above.
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09/07/2012 11:24 AM (UTC)
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Now my Question is, Who wins?

Master Rahm Kota vs Kenshi

Both had vision but both lost it. What's your opinion? IMHO This match hasn't, but should happen.

Thoughts?
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