Damn those look sweet as hell! Thanx for the pics man.

dude check it out, we finally get to ride BIKES! but it is a step down from motorcycles, i thought the next installment would do this. Bikes, Skateboard, razor scooter, hahaha

seriously tho, how much does it suck in vice city when your character gets "tired" and runs slow, if he carried a skateboard via tony hawk underground style, then you could skate.

The screenshots look nice and all, but any info on a possible cast yet? And I know I'm gonna get a lot of flack for this but, so far I'm not impressed. I know normally it's Foahchon's job to knock GTA, but since its announcement I haven't been hyped for it. I donno, maybe I'll change my mind when there is more info on the game, but for now I'm more interesrted in a lot of other titles appearing at E3.

skeletonofsociety Wrote: The screenshots look nice and all, but any info on a possible cast yet? And I know I'm gonna get a lot of flack for this but, so far I'm not impressed. I know normally it's Foahchon's job to knock GTA, but since its announcement I haven't been hyped for it. I donno, maybe I'll change my mind when there is more info on the game, but for now I'm more interesrted in a lot of other titles appearing at E3.

naw i feel ya on that one. The ONLY game(s) im looking forward to are Deception and Arcade classics vol. II. I've just been looking for a screen shot for a little while now, and finally one is available. I heard that San Andreas wont even be at E3 this year because they want it mysterious, it doesnt need hype they are saying b/c no matter what it will sell.

Damn, looking good. Thanks for posting these up bro, i've waited for a while now to see a few screens, and now that i have, i must say that i'm impressed. Yet another game on my wish-list.

Holy crap! Bicycles! Whoopie!

Screens and new Art can be found here:

http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/

That shot is not of Tommy Vercetti, it's one of those gang members on the bike, so I don't know if it is even safe to say you 'can' ride bikes.

One thing we do know for sure, it's present day!! (I base this on the dude 'saggin' his pants, again not Vercetti) That should mean a pretty kick ass soundtrack of new rap, rock and other songs!

blade-tsung Wrote: That shot is not of Tommy Vercetti, it's one of those gang members on the bike, so I don't know if it is even safe to say you 'can' ride bikes. One thing we do know for sure, it's present day!! (I base this on the dude 'saggin' his pants, again not Vercetti) That should mean a pretty kick ass soundtrack of new rap, rock and other songs!

I highly doubt that Tommy Vercetti will even be in this game. Anyways the cool looks Ok im gonna buy it but to bad it comes out in October same month as Mk:D, ill be to busy with that game for a while. I wondor what game will sell more

blade-tsung Wrote: That shot is not of Tommy Vercetti, it's one of those gang members on the bike, so I don't know if it is even safe to say you 'can' ride bikes. One thing we do know for sure, it's present day!! (I base this on the dude 'saggin' his pants, again not Vercetti) That should mean a pretty kick ass soundtrack of new rap, rock and other songs!

I'm pritty sure the game takes place after GTA3 so it would be modern day, and also i heared that the main character is the guy from GTA3( thats a rumour not 100% sure on that) i would think you could ride bikes anything that gangs or the public use can be used by the main character, thats how it was with the previous games and i'm sure you can do that with this one. the screen shots look great but they always do, will have to wait to see any trailers to get a better idea.

Hell yeah those look fat! They need to bring back the driving cheat from gta3 that lets cars jump! That was one of the best things about the game.

Bikes? cool! Now, where are the skateboards. It would be sweet if you could pull off a few tricks on the bikes. It looks pretty damn cool.

Those shots DO love very cool, but until I see major advancements in graphics & gameplay, I'll reserve my own judgement. I completed Vice City BEFORE GTA3, and while playing the latter, I realized how right people were in describing the former as a "huge improvement."

San Andreas better have the same type of improvements over its predecessor, 'casue if not, I doubt I'll buy it when it eventually comes out on XBOX.

BTW, I too would like to read what Foachon has to say about the game

will the graphics ever improve

the story has been released, 1st post /\

WHat concerns me primarily is the music and sound. Early 90's...depending on the year, I may be screwed. The early 90's were, with some notable exceptions, not a very great time for rock. On the Hip Hop side of things, maybe we can hear Naughty By Nature's O.P.P. That would be nice.

I wonder if the commercials will be as funny as they were in Vice City. They damn well better be.

"How do you like to enjoy a Rusty Brown's Ring Donut?"

Shadaloo Wrote: WHat concerns me primarily is the music and sound. Early 90's...depending on the year, I may be screwed. The early 90's were, with some notable exceptions, not a very great time for rock.

Umm early 90's (90-94) were actually some good years for metal. Pantera, Slayer, and Fear Factory were at their peaks. Metallica, Megadeath, and Ozzy had already staked their claim as the top dogs. And grunge started up. What was so bad about that?

Like I said, some notable exceptions. What I really meant to say is, on a scale of commercial success, I can't think of much during that time frame that would play often on the radio. On the whole, I seem to remember the early 90's (which I conisder (90-93) as being primirily pop-dominated. Maybe I was too young to rememeber back then, but there is the fact that I never really listened to the radio at the time.

We've already heard Megadeth and Ozzy in Vice City. Although it's possible that we may get something from at least those two again (I'd really like to hear No More Tears), I wouldn't bet on getting them both back, they'd want mroe variety. And for some reason, I can't see them using a Metallica song in GTA.

Although I've never been a huge Pantera fan, they're OK in my book. I'm really not sure which of their albums came out when, but I wouldn't mind hearing a track in the game.

As for Fear Factory, Demanufacture came out in what, early 1995? That's practically the mid-90's, and I'm sure San Andreas will take place before that. I doubt we'd be hearing anything from Soul Of A New Machine during the game.

I'd like to get something off of NIN's 'Broken', definitely. Listening to Happiness in Slavery while mowing down pedestrians...I'd also like something off the Pumpkins 'Siamese Dream'...

You've got a hell of a point when it comes to grunge. I can picture something off Nirvana's Nevermind on there (I just hope it's not Teen Spirit, getting a bit sick of that one...I'd prefer Come As You Are or Lithium). And as for Alice In Chains...**Drool**

And now that I'm looking through my CD collection, I'm seeing Rage Against The Machine, 1992. Killing In The Name.

**Is eating his own damn words with salt and pepper**

Anyway, I know that you're saying that the early 90's wasnt a bad time for rock. You're right. But I just seem to remember crap like Ace Of Base (oh GOD, they'll probably stick 'The Sign' on there somewhere), Celine Dion, and Billy Ray Cyrus dominating airwaves.

I just gor this hot, juicy E-mail from a friend.

> From Gamefaqs:
> Game Informer has a 10-page San Andreas preview showing now at E3. Every
point here is all confirmed and official from the early release of Game
Informer. The magazine has 12 screenshots.
>
> Screenshots
> - One pic shows the inside of a house, with rendered interior
environments. There is furniture inside the house.
> - Cne shows a helicopter with its searchlights on a runaway criminal.
> - The others show how the main character can get fat, its a pic of him
(fat) crossing the street with a donut shop in the background.
> - One shows two other characters that are apart of the main character's
crew.
> - One shows a gang carjacking. Three guys with doo rag masks are
carjacking other guys.
> - One shows a four person drive-by.
> - Another one shows a california type pimped out car.
> -The last one shows the background of LA with a smog sky.
>
> General
> - The game is more serious than the others, but the elements of comedy are
still there.
> - A full staff of reasearch personnel at Rockstar have been studying Las
Vegas, San Diego, and Los Angeles for months to ensure that they truly
capture the feelings of these cities.
>
> Location
> - The game will not take place in Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Las
Vegas. It will take place IN ALL THREE as well as the countryside in
between.
> - Los Angeles will be called Los Santos, San Francisco will be called San
Fieero, and Las Vegas will be called Las Venturra.
> - Each city is about the same size as Vice City.
> - Not all cities will be open at the start of the game.
> - The entire game will be about four to six times as large as Vice City.
> - San Fierro (San Francisco) will have hills. This city is more driving
based.
> - You can drive from LA, through the countryside, up a mountain, into San
Fran, and onto Las Vegas.
> - Driving through the desert won't be empty and plain with a couple
cacti...it will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see.
> - There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors.
>
> Graphics
> - The graphics engine has been tweaked. Smog will be present in LA, and
real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, as well as new
techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic shadowing,
and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels will be present.
> - Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to
give better lighting and shadowing.
> - The game will have ragdoll physics, or "impact animation" in Rockstar's
words.
>
> Vehicles
> - As for vehicles, there will be pimped-out lowriders, and 90's versions
of some GTA3/VC cars will return.
> - There will be bicycles.
>
> Story
> - Characters from the past will return.
>
> Gameplay
> - In the Las Vegas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino - and
then run it.
> - You can then gamble your money in the casino.
> - Your character can dual wield pistols and potentially other weapons.
> - You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food,
you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. You also run slower.
To remedy this, you can go to a gym to exercise.
> - You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning,
however.
> - You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by's.
(seen here)
>
> Weapons
> - The choice of weapons will match the time in which the era of the early
90's.
>
> Artificial Intelligence
> - Enemy/pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more
logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have
people notice and react.
> - Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot
of skill.
>
> Music
> - There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other
stations as always.

Looks just as cheap and ugly as the first two.
Two things Rockstar's games severely lack is class and polish, which keeps me from playing, nevermind enjoying, their games.

foahchon Wrote: Looks just as cheap and ugly as the first two.Two things Rockstar's games severely lack is class and polish, which keeps me from playing, nevermind enjoying, their games.

yep yep

foahchon Wrote: Looks just as cheap and ugly as the first two.Two things Rockstar's games severely lack is class and polish, which keeps me from playing, nevermind enjoying, their games.

A GTA thread is never complete if Foachon hasn't givin his opinion

I realy didn't enjoy VC, since I didn't think it was much of an improvement over GTA3, except for a few tweaks. This more than likely will be just a little bit better, maybe. I say this becuase VC realy pushed the ps2's hardware i.e. the long load time and a few other things. Now if rockstar some how uses the hard drive it might be a different story. I guess we will haft to wait and see.

MKSECRETS Wrote: A GTA thread is never complete if Foachon hasn't givin his opinion

Too true.

Ohh and FF came out in 92, with their debut album Soul of a New Machine. Plus they had already made a name for themselves in backyard parties in San Fran and LA a year before the release of SOANM, so Shadaloo