I love how they just win free cars just becuse they were awards MVP. Yeah, I don't work for anyone. I ran Cross Country for the first time in my life this year and medaled my first track meet not to mention won 6 others. Can I please get a new car for my work? Please?

So what about next year?

CHEERS!

HOLY FUCKING YES!!!! That's exactly what I said after the game. That defense kept the Patriots at the least amount of points they scored all season. Their D gave the Pats a fucking BEATING. Giants could've had at least 24-30 points if Offense was a little more consistent but oh well Manning still put up enough effort to win. I predicted the upset. I knew the Patriots would play overconfident, which they did. I wasn't suprised at all. I won like $400 on hte point spread.

Can we please stop taking credit away from Eli, rest of the team or the D-line won the game yes that's PARTIALLY correct but anyone that honestly denies Eli doing well in that game or saying he got lucky or something is just either dumb(no offense to anyone but seriously now) or was watching another game all together....yeah we all know Eli struggled earlier in the season but come on...He's the man this year mid-late season factuallyand he did his job, earned his money. Thanks, later. Superbowl champs? lol Need I say more?


I don't think he's "the best QB ever" but seriously, the mans done his job well, Giants are the World Champions how about giving Eli the respect he deserves.

BTW, NFL record was also set for those wondering. First time ever that two brothers from two different teams(both QB's) won the Super Bowl back to back years.

Need I remind you of some of the bright lights that have won Super Bowls before with suspect performances? Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler, Brad Johnson, etc. etc.

All I'm saying is without the constant pressure on Brady, the FACT is that the Patriots are up by at least 2 touchdowns by the time Eli makes that throw to Tyree and we're not talking about Eli making a great play or (still prematurely) immortalizing him. There's no way you can sit there with a straight face and seriously tell me that the D-Line was not fully responsible for the Giants winning the game, let alone even being close.

Football is like Baseball in the sense of "team effort and team sport" agreed?, neither are a one man sport like B-ball or Hockey like Gretzky ok. I've also played both sports and if you have I'm sure you know this as well that in a game like football you need a team effort, not just part of it. The Giant's won the game as a team, everyone did their job, the defense, the offense and yes even Eli too in the clutch, you can't deny that fact.

I just feel at this point, it's really kind of silly to say "eli didn't win the game at all, just the defense" because that's taking any credit away from Eli... lol and if they would have lost then I'm sure you'd say Eli didn't step up this game so either way it seems to me that you just have something against Eli(or the Giants) but come on, I'm not a Met or Jet fan which you know but still if they play well I'll give them props none the less man lol. I know you hate the Yankees and aren't crazy about the Giant's but come on man, when they well you have to give them their props.

Also, a lot of people already had the Giant's losing this game...prior to it even being played just like with Dallas and GB lol so there's more examples of the team stepping up when a lot of people have them down already and defeated. The Patriots blew it man, they had the lead with 2 minutes left, if their defense stepped up and took care of Eli then the Giant's wouldn't have won the game...not to mention a clock is involved so whoever has the lead will just delay, drag or sit on the ball anyway...gotta love timed sports...

Let's put it this way, The Patriots have the best offense in the league, the Giant's have the best Defense...they did their job and when the Giant's needed TD's Eli did his, if he didn't then they would have lost 14-10, and there's no way you can deny that fact. Eli made the key passes late in the game and that helmet catch was key....which was just as good a catch as it was a pass, even most professional broadcasters, players, managers and analysts felt that way if you read the papers or watch the sports channels.

Did the Giant's defense score the 17 points? No, eli and the offense did.

You have to remember man, you can't win a game at all if you don't put up points, runs or goals on the board then it doesn't matter how good your defense is if you're not in the game to begin with.

My last post was written in a bit of a haze, so I'm going to try and make some sense here:

Eli Manning did what he always does, and that's manage the game. Yes, he played a decent game and made some plays. I'm not saying the Giants didn't accomplish anything there. They won the Super Bowl and that's great for them and for New York, but come on here. Eli Manning had far less to do with the Giants' victory than the defense. I'll counter your scoring argument with the following:

I don't care what team it is against the Patriots, if you don't get the kind of pressure that the Giants, Ravens, and Eagles were able to get on Tom Brady, then he's going to sit back in the pocket and pick apart the defense, which has led to the Patriots scoring in the range of 41-52 points. And nobody on their best offensive night and the Pats' defensive worst is scoring above 50 against their defense, you just can't keep up with that with all the playmakers on that side of the ball for the Patriots.

Conclusion: If you don't pressure Brady, you have no chance no matter how on-fire your offense is. The Giants did this and made enough plays on offense to win.

By the way, I'd say Boss's reception was the biggest play on that drive. It allowed the Giants to take their time on the rest of the drive.

But also put the brakes on the Giants defense bandwagon for a second. They have the best line in the league, nobody will deny that. Their LBs are among the best, but I'd say there was a better group opposite them on Super Bowl Sunday and I'd also say that Green Bay, Indianapolis and San Diego are at least as good. The secondary? Ehhhh, not so much in my opinion. They were able to stop Moss because they doubled him, but Welker and Faulk ate them alive on the short routes. I know that you can't double everybody, but Welker should have at least drawn doubles more often than not.

We'll just wait and see next season about young Eli. He may have come up big, but he still turned it over a league-high 27 times and once (but fumbled two other times) in the Super Bowl. So what I'm saying here is that I'll let Eli himself convince me that he's worth a damn in the NFL, since I haven't seen a compelling argument yet.

Well, that's your opinion man which I respect but I'm pretty certain I bring up very good, valid points that counter yours. Either way at this point, people should and really have to respect Eli right now compared to before, to rip him apart in general is just a silly thing to do on anyones part, despite which teams people like, which teams people hate. Eli is still the one who put up the 17 points, not the Giant's defense which brings me back to my initial point. If you don't put up any points on the board, your defense can be godly, it won't matter if you're not in the game score wise.

This is what I'm saying here, I agree in the sense that of course the defense HELD the Pats to 14 points with the pressure blitz(which they almost blew at the end of the game btw if you noticed by altering their game a little) however, when the pressure was on Eli and the offense they came up big......now again, I'm not saying ohh Eli's the best QB in the league now, his brother is still better but we've seen and Eli's proven to everyone even the people that had him down in the dumps and defeated before hand wrong with this win, in fact the past 11 wins. He's definitely going to be top 5 QB in the league within a few years not a doubt in my mind, just think he's young now and won his first Super Bowl...he'll only improve in due time.

On a side note, I also believe people "hyped up the Pats" way too freaking much just like the underestimated the Giant's drastically....being a Yankee fan myself, I know that if people hype you up to the point of "being invincible" it can bite you on the ass at times...

Even the Mets(last year) you know what I'm talking about here, if people hype up your team as an automatic prior I've noticed "karma" seems to kick in at times proving the opposite effect.

Nice chatting with ya.