It's gonna be a very "Blue" Superbowl.

Yesterday SUCKED.

Agreed

Yeah, well at least Eli isn't a cheater.....like the patriots were doing earlier this year on the sidelines...

And I'd have to disagree with Eli being bad, he's one of the best QB's and only going to get better....

I mean, he's only in the Super Bowl lol

Eli, one of the best QBs? Please. He's in the bottom half of NFL quarterbacks.

He's only in the Super Bowl because he has a solid defense and offensive line.

One way or the other, I just don't see how the Patriots are going down. Someone would have to explain this to me in detail. Good luck to the Giants BTW!

First congrads green bay it was an amazing play though we outplayed u you guys kept it close and was in it to the end. I really hope farve doesn't retire he is an amazing qb even at his age.

The NFC in general doesn't have as many top teams as in the AFC but the talent level is = infact in outer conference games the AFC and NFC tied with a record of 32-32. The Giants derserve to be where they are going they won in tampa,dallas and green bay. Played well in all 3 games made really no mistakes (besides tynes cough hes lucky he made that 3rd feild goal). But the blue print if i have to say if the giants want any chance of beating the patroits is.

1. Make the game shorter. How you do this by running the football take time off giving brady and company less oppturnities with the ball. That means alot of jacobs and bradshaw. Run up the gut. Something the chargers couldn't do without Landian Tomlision. Giants definally have the run game to do this. If you want a perfect example of this look at the 90 superbowl between the giants and bills and you'll understand what i mean.

2. No turnovers just keep doing what you have been doing all post season.

3. Pressure brady man up on wideouts maybe have Micheal johnson (not butler he is slow in coverage) help out deep on moss. I say this because the chargers had success with this you need to pressure brady i don't think as good as the giants front four is they won't get constant pressure on him. I empise the corner play because the giants secondary has come alive this post season your going to have welker on dockery if hes back or ross. Send mix blitzes with corners and safteys (mainly gibril wilson). This is the most important point for the defence. They are up for the challenge its all about excustion. Also make takes at point of contact don't let the pats skill people break tackles for extra gain.

4. Special teams are critical if you play a shorter game a feild position game so hixon and mc1/4's and the giants coverage unit will be huge.

5. Eli just be effenient don't force the issue if you do mistakes will happen. Ask phllip rivers 1 int was just a great play by Samuel the other int was a bad throw he was trying to do to much there. Let the game come to you and take what the defence (because NE will give you stuff) gives you.

6.3rd and 4th wideouts the key. Most likely the pats in passing downs won't do the same thing gb did and sigle up one corner on burress. So steve smith, Sinorce moss if he plays and Kevin boss will be huge keys in this game they must catch because they will be singled up.

7. Convert 3rd down no expliation needed for this.

8. Hold pats on 3rd down get 3 and outs. again no explication needed.

Do all this which the giants have the ablitiy to do its all about excustion then you have an upset of a lifetime.

So you don't think the giants are in the superbowl because Eli has played well. I mean having over 60% completion making even incomplete throws on the mark not throwing an int and managing the offence anything had to do with the giants going to the superbowl please.

Yea i actually am going with the giants in this one.

He might not be one of the best ever...right now anyway, but in the league definitely. Don't get me wrong, he struggles and when he does it's like a pitcher thing a little. He takes more heat then when he does good, everyone shuts up and you don't hear about his progress. It's a bit hypocritical if you ask me personally but either way. He's been spot on his game the past 5 weeks and even Giant haters have to admit that.

And he also passed well as well, he made lots of good, smart passes the past few games. That on top of the Giant defense gets the win.

I've noticed QB's are equivalent to Pitchers in baseball...when they're off, they take tons of heat when they're on they don't seem to get the credit.

Top bottom? nahh no way man lol. Few years ago I would agree but not now.

Alright, I can name 16 QBs who (right now, when healthy) are more talented than Eli Manning:

*- I don't need to make cases for the first 12 guys.

1- Brady
2- That OTHER guy named Manning
3- Favre
4- Derek Anderson (did so much with so little in Cleveland)
5- Roethlisberger
6- Hasselbeck
7- Palmer
8- McNabb
9- Garrard
10- Romo
11- Bulger
12- Brees
13- Rivers
14- Delhomme
15- Leinart
16- McNair

And kk- The Giants are in the Super Bowl because:
1- Tampa doesn't have an offense
2- Romo played like Romo and stopped channeling Elway
3- Favre played poorly (and doesn't have a target like Plax)
4- Ahmad Bradshaw was running like Adrian Peterson behind that O-Line
5- They played a 3rd-place schedule (and the AFC East) en route to the playoffs, which in the NFC is like playing against high school teams

As you can clearly see, none of those reasons have anything to do with Eli Manning. Eli is a game manager (translation: he sucks) whose job is to not make mistakes, not to win the game on his own. He has a defense to fall back on and possession receivers in Burress and Toomer to throw to, so he can pussyfoot all game long and be fine so long as he doesn't hit one of the guys on the other team or fumble.

To further prove my point, stick Eli on any team with a so-so offensive line or a lackluster receiving corps. He's not a QB that you can rely on to make 35-40 throws a game without making some kind of critical mistake. Not at this stage of his career. Only time will tell if he gets more careful with the ball. He would also do well to shed the Manning crybaby attitude that Peyton has yet to get rid of. Also, having a 60% completion percentage in the NFL is average.

I can counter point all your points. First i can give u the top 7 qbs you listed you can make a case or hell even after that i'll give brees and romo after that its a crap shoot. You don't think Garrard is also a game manger. I am sure running behind the Jax oline and have jones drew and taylor (both possibly better then jacobs and bradshaw) and a oline that is on par with NY doesn't help out. Mcnabb this year did squat we'll see what he does next year but he is also injured to much to have any impact. Eli hasn't missed anything games since he became a starter. Bluger has wepons galore in Jackson, Holt bruce etc but still didn't do good this year. I would say rivers and eli are close but again i would rather have LT gates and the chargers oline over the giants skill position i just give the adv to burress and toomer over chambers and vincent jackson. And your last 3 qbs ar just a joke Delhome is going to be benched because he sucked it up this year expect carolina to go qb in the draft Lienert has done nothing with his weapons in arizona while he was healthy and Mcnair has been a shell of his former shelf the past few years so right now it puts eli in the 9-14 range of qb's.

1. Tampa doesn't have an offence your right they do have a defence though. #1 in the NFC and Eli and co went right through them. And the giants completely shut down Tampa after the first possession. Your right thought the giants were better then tampa all season.

2. Ehh Romo played really well until the last possession and don't count how many drops the cowboys wideouts had. Patrick Brick hands Crayton droped alot of passes. Glenn droped a few so did TO. The dallas defence played ok nothing spetular.

3. Ok farve doesn't have burress i give you that but i am pretty sure he has a probowl wideout (plex wasn't voted to the probowl this year) in Donald Driver and plus a wideout who had a spectular year in Greg Jennings. Yes farve screw up but still the packers were in it until the end because the giants defence and special teams made mistakes (fumble after int fumble on final return some stupid pentalys and that phantom hold on snee that took away bradshaw's touchdown).

4. This oline was designed for tiki barber. THey been together for a while (besides Dheil moving to LT to take over for petigout but the back up was a giant anyways. The oline was designed to take runs outside and to create cut back lanes , though jacobs has some speed he can't cutback like a tiki barber. If you look at bradshaw hes alot like tiki so thats why there is success there. So hes on the giants what eli is suppose to throw it 90 times for 90 completions and 900 yards and 9 touchdowns give me a break he fits into the scheme of the giants team which is run the football first set up play action. Take a few deep threats here and there.

5. Really the only difference is 2 games. First before i explain that The AFC East is a joke besides NE. I mean the bills 7-9 jets 4-12 and miami 1-15 were 1-11 vs the NFC East. The only difference in the NFC east teams is 2 games for ex cowboys had carolina and st. Louis we had SF and Alanta Philly had NO and Seattle and Washington had Arizona and Tampa. So you play the games on your schedule thats what is detirmed by your finish the previous season. Its not like college where you can schedule crappy teams plus you don't know how teams will be year in and out. Giants took adv of the schedule they had and won that all that matters.

There is nothing wrong with relying on your teams as i remember football is a team sport. Its about time the giants had a defence we all can be proud of last years cover 0 defence sucked, Steve Spagolono has been a god send for this defence this year. Sure we got talent but so does every team in the NFL.

I can agree that eli is not a qb that can make 40 throws a game i mean thats many he had in the NFC championchip game and the giants still won. Look at his record since his first full year including playoffs. 10-7 8-9 13-6 thats 31-22 he wins thats the bottom line he finds ways to win he took the giants to the superbowl he not a top flight qb but he will be a good qb for the giants for years to come. Forget the hate and the fact his name is manning he lead a giants team that had no expections people to pick 4-12 and be one of the worst teams without tiki barber plus shockey injury late in the s eason to the superbowl i mean any ol qb can do that. I will agree he'll never be a brady or Payton or farve but he will be a winner and it the end i rather have a winner then a qb that throws for good #'s anyday of the week.

*sigh*

I didn't want to type out a long post explaining why over half the league's teams have better QBs than what the Giants have in Eli Manning, but, since you asked so nicely, here we go:

A guy (Garrard) that throws for over 2,500 yards and has an 18-3 TD/INT ratio is hardly a game manager. He has a great running game, yes, but he's proven this year that he can make big throws (see Pittsburgh games) and that he has a big arm.

McNabb was hurt. I don't need to explain how he's better than Eli, he's still fairly mobile and has practically nothing to work with, but still puts up good numbers. You can't use the fact that he's injury prone against his talent.

Bulger had bruised/broken ribs all year long, but still managed to tough his way through 12 games and pass for 2,400 yards. He'll be back with a vengeance next year.

Rivers > E. Manning because the only receiver that Rivers has is Gates. Chambers is streaky and Jackson isn't good at getting open consistently. Rivers has far less to work with in the passing game than Eli.

Delhomme only played 3 games and was playing the best football of his career (posting an 8-1 TD/INT ratio and having a QB rating over 110), so to call him joke is just absurd. Delhomme is another guy that has little to work with (only Steve Smith, really)

Even you should know that Leinart has no offensive line in Arizona. While I'm on the subject of Arizona, I'll make a case now that Kurt Warner is better than Eli Manning. Eli Manning only completed 56% of his passes and had 20 INT to go along with a rating of 73.9. Warner, in 2 fewer games, passed for more yards, more TDs, had a rating of 89.8, and completed 63%. Sounds better to me.

McNair has been hurt the last few years. Next topic.

About Tampa's defense: #2 in yards allowed, #1 pass defense, #3 in points allowed, but here's the big one: #17 in rushing defense. In the playoffs, you need to be able to stop the run, and Tampa can't do that. The Giants RAN (I stress ran, not passed, as Eli was below 200 yards) through Tampa and played enough defense to win that one.

Romo played well? If you want to call an 18-36, 201 yard day playing well, then I can see why you're so high on Eli Manning. Also, Terry Glenn was playing his second game all season (wasn't even thrown to in Week 17), so he gets a pass. But some of those drops have to be placed on the QB. If you're the QB, you shouldn't even give your guys an opportunity to drop the ball; put it right on them. Romo is better than Eli still, but not by all that much and I wouldn't be surprised if Eli catches him next year.

Driver couldn't get open against the Giants secondary and Greg Jennings isn't a deep threat, just a possession receiver like most. The Giants won that game because the Packers made just as many mistakes (Bush's failed attempt to scoop and score on the fumble, 3 picks by Favre)

I'm not saying that Eli needs to thrive in a pass-happy offense for me to be sold on him, but he needs to cut down on mistakes, especially taking care of the ball (20 INT, 13 fumbles, 7 lost, for a total of 27 turnovers) and making smart throws. I think he might have turned the corner in the playoffs, but I'd like to see how much Coughlin opens the offense to him in the Super Bowl and next year.

Yea, there's nothing wrong with relying on your teammates, but Eli has to because he's too inconsistent. Remember, I'm not harping on his yards and TDs, but instead his pedestrian completion percentage and rating, and his penchant for giving the ball to the other team. If he can get his completion percentage to like 61-62% and his rating climbs into the mid-80s, then I'll consider him one of the better QBs in the NFL. Until then, no.

Schedule-wise: Playoffs, not division title. I don't care about the division title, but to be honest the Giants were given plenty of gimme games on their schedule (and had the easiest schedule in their division, as you've nicely pointed out for me). The fact that the Giants got the two most pathetic teams in the NFC in the 49ers and Falcons shows that they didn't even need to work hard to get to the playoffs, though I credit them for proving they belong and making the Super Bowl.

Ok, interesting valid points but one little thing that most on that list except for Brady have accomplished that Eli has.

Getting your team to the Super Bowl....

Despite how good or bad the rest of his team has played "in peoples opinions" Eli is easily one of the best this year hands down. He was tested the past few years and failed under pressure but that's NOT the case this year.

Not to mention I'd love to see how many of those QB's not for nothing could have performed as well as Eli did under those harse conditions, Favre hell he had the home field edge man lol at least, they're used to that shit. I'm surprised Eli not only did very well but was able to throw the ball as accurate and as well as he did. Favre was throwing lots of junk out there and it seemed to be bothering him more then Eli which I found very shocking honestly.

Romo did play well he had alot of drops and alot of incompletions were on that final drive so stats don't tell the whole story my friend i watched the giants cowboys game very carefully and yes besides the last possession. Where btw teh cowboys offensive line just completly fell apart late in the 3rd and all 4th quarter he played well.

lol, Eli had like a 60% passer rating right? He failed in the regular season, but what he is doing now is nothing short of a miracle

6-7 of those guys on my list have played in/won a Super Bowl, and another 2-3 have gotten to the conference title game. I really don't know how you can possibly justify a 27-turnover (with 6 additional fumbles recovered by the Giants) quarterback as being one of the best in the league. Like SubMan said, he was a joke in the regular season. An absolute piss-poor performance by someone with the QB genes.

In the game, Favre did what you're supposed to do with the receivers he has, and that's go deep. Eli Manning, through lack of speedy receivers or playcalling, had just 2 passes that resulted in gains over 20 yards, and both were short passes. Eli was kept on a leash on Sunday. Until I see that he can make deep throws, I'm not sold on him and neither should anyone with half a brain.

He struggled in parts of the regular season, I noticed he took a ripping for it and can honestly say at times I don't blame the fans for being disappointed....your key guy has to perform, however the past 5 games nobody can honestly deny that Eli is doing a great job.

If he didn't, him and his team would NOT be in the Super Bowl...I know he struggled some in the regular season but A. this isn't the regular season anymore and B. Give the guy some credit for coming back and handling the pressure and performing well in the playoffs...

Even if the Giant's lose, Giant's fans can always say hey at least they made it to the Superbowl and earn major respect with that alone.

Deep throws? Dude, the weather was below 0 man lol. If you didn't notice both Eli and Favre especially struggling a bit due to the cold then you were watching a different game all together...

Eli isn't their key guy though. Their key guy(s) this year was/were Jacobs/Bradshaw, Burress, Shockey, and the pass rush. But, as you demanded, I already have given him credit for getting to the Super Bowl, because we all know that is no small feat.

Wait, so the Giants and their fans get respect for making the Super Bowl? Hmm, both parties got tons of respect after their 34-7 shellacking at the hands of Baltimore. [/sarcasm]

As for the deep passes, it goes along with what I've been saying that Eli can't make the deep throw. Just like all season, Coughlin and his crew are apprehensive about letting Eli uncork one downfield, because he doesn't have the supporting cast (or the scheme) to make that happen. Favre and co. stuck to their guns in that game, and it was the short throws and bad bounces that wound up costing them, but hey, I can't say whether the Packers would have won otherwise because the conditions were awful, as anyone could see.

Well, he's still learning as far as "deep throws" but he has the arm for it and is more then capable if he wanted to. The GB game was the "smart" game, you're not going to throw deep nor risk it with such a harse enviroment on your skin and hands where you can hardly grip the ball.

If you noticed, the short throws were working well for Eli and that one throw that was dropped that should have got them a TD earlier wasn't eli's fault it was the receivers...if you know which pass I'm referring to, easiest catch yet dropped...

Eli's the QB, your QB is the guy that has to take control, thus he's one of the key guys since he has the ball...notice with Patriots and Colts it's all you hear "Brady, Brady, Brady or Manning, Manning" so why can't Eli get some credit? lol

Besides, I'd take him anyday over Pennington who is a bust as far as I'm concerned...

I don't see what the Baltimore game has to do with anything at this point, I can easily post the many shellacking the Jets took this season? A lot worse then the Giants by far but just like your Baltimore vs. Giant's post, it would be irrelevant at this point in the season.

Rex Grossmen was the Starting QB last year.. NFC is a joke. i wish the Bills were in the NFC

nope Bills are stuck in the AFC EAST having to play the CHE~triots twice a year



ok you guys went on typing a whole lotta stuff, quite frankly im not reading all that so sorry if you explained yourself already BUT



Derek Anderson did well because of the Talent in Cleveland. Kellen Winslow is a top TE. Braylen edwards, Jamal Lewis and that Offensive line are Very Very good. he doesnt belong on this top QB lists until he does it again next year.

i say Eli is as good or better then ~ Mcnair (NOW), Rivers & Leinart.

you also didnt mention Jeff Garcia O_o

Giants in SB XLII FTW!

As for the Eli talks, i got a bias cuz im a giants fan, and his recent playoff streak has me off the hating bandwagon and on the i lvoe eli bandwagon, but, the regular season dont matter anymore. Eli had a shitty season no doubt, and if we didnt have plax god knows how worse we wouldve been.

But in the playoffs, Eli is perfect for what were doing. We ran the football down tampas throats and played killer D in that game and breezed by them. Against dallas Eli outplayed romo to the fullest extent. After the huge 20 play drive, eli came right back and said FU romo ill score in 46 seconds and get us into halftime with momentum. The 2nd half was won thanks to the front 4.

And in GB, Eli played a hell of a game in that weather. His CP% wouldve been alot higher had they played in warm weather, and not cuz eli didnt throw the ball well, but becuase the wideouts and elis hands were prolly frozen solid and the passes they dropped would be caught in warm weather.

SO, during the regular season, id defeinitly say that, Brady, P Manning, Big Ben, Vince YOung, Hasslebeck, Anderson, Garrard, Romo, Mcnabb, Brees, Garcia, Favre, Bulger, Warner, Palmer, Rivers, Cutler, and Schaub were all better than Eli.

But theres only 1 quarterback right now playing better than eli, and thats brady. And all those guys that outplayed Eli in the regular season, Peyton, Big Ben, Garcia, Romo, Favre, Rivers, Garrard, Young, and Hasslebeck, well there all sitting at home watching Eli in the SB. And no matter what anyone says abotu teh Giants run game, pass rush, etc, etc.. you cant tell me that if the eli from the chicago game, or the vikings game was playing, wed be in the position were in, to be playing in the SB.

Since the pats game, the man has stepped his game up a huge notch and has stepped in as a leader. And another thing, not one QB that played in this playoffs or is still palying, hasnt thrown a pic. Except Eli. The man is no Peyton, hes far from elite, but hes playing at a very high level. End of story Haters.

Giants FTW.

Today is judgement day one hour before destiny i can feel it I just have one last thing to say to the boys in blue. Play hard play smart and play like champions and end this undefeated crap of the Pats.

GO GIANTS

No favorite here, so let's just see if they can get the 19-0 and make some history.

That's at least worth watching the thing for.

I like in ORDER:

- Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Miss WARREN SAPP)
- Houston Texans
- Tennessee Titans
- Denver Broncos
- North Carolina Panthers
- Jacksonville Jaguars

FOR AFL:

Grand Rapids Rampage, all the way!