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posted02/29/2012 03:31 AM (UTC)by
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Next installments in the main series


No one knows anything about them yet, but it appears they will be direct sequels to black and white, which sounds incredibly confusing.
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Darkhound74
02/26/2012 01:55 AM (UTC)
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Not to mention......dumb.
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02/26/2012 01:58 AM (UTC)
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Darkhound74 Wrote:
Not to mention......dumb.


Also, the new Kyurem forms (Black Kyurem and White Kyurem) are apparently new, stand alone pokemon. I'm not ready to pass judgement on it yet, at least until we get substantial information other than the new forms. But four main series games instead of the normal three seems like a cash grab by Nintendo.
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Zentile
02/26/2012 04:37 AM (UTC)
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how is it confusing or dumb?
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02/26/2012 04:49 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
how is it confusing or dumb?


Confusing: How it'll work. New protagonist? Same old protagonist? Set in the future? Happening congruently with B/W? So far, it appears GF is going into uncharted waters with this sequel.

Dumb: I find nothing dumb with it, I'm excited to see how it all plays out, despite my confusion.
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02/26/2012 05:20 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
how is it confusing or dumb?


It's dumb because they should have revealed that they were spending their time on Ruby / Sapphire / Emerald remakes or an actual 3rd game for Gen V that isn't two separate games. They must have been doing as much crack as Whitney Houston (HINT: A LOT OF CRACK) when they thought of this idea.


I'm not against the later generations of Pokemon but I would much rather have the remakes over a 3rd version.

There is no reason for them to choose



over something like this



or this



The only confusing thing about this is how they are going to progress the story that they tried making a huge part (Way to big of a part in my opinion) of Black & White. I was constantly annoyed by all of the horrible characters from the Gen. V games. The Pokemon they concocted for Gen V were actually better than the horrible characters. The only good "Teams" were Team Magma and Team Aqua. I felt like while completing the main plot of the game, there was more being stopped to talk to people (forced conversations) than there was time actually playing the game. They could at least try to make the story a bit more interesting if they were going to make a 3rd version for the Gen V games, but just making sequel to a game that's ending really had no where left to go in terms of progressing the story is a bit ridiculous.
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SubMan799
02/26/2012 05:31 AM (UTC)
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This is uncharted territory for a Pokemon game. I can't wait for more news
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Darkhound74
02/26/2012 07:14 AM (UTC)
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To add on to my previous statement.

I was just really hoping for a remake of some sort, or just something "New" brought to the table, but I'll be fair and wait for more news before I pass FULL judgment on it.

Like I said I was just a bit disappointed, but I'm actually a huge pokemon fan.
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02/26/2012 07:35 AM (UTC)
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I'm really excited about this. For the first time since the series came into existence, instead of making new colours or remaking an old game, they're making a legit sequel to extend the story of the same generation. It almost makes me want to buy the games and play again.
Is this an addition, like a 3rd version or the next generation?

Seems kinda soon for Gen VI with more new Pokeymanz, but they didn't use all the mons I gave them for Gen V. I hope more show up.

I agree Ru/Sa should be remade though. They're the only ones still incompatable with D/P/G/S/B/W. Directly, I mean, you can upload them to Pal Park.

I'm still trying to catch Latios in Emerald. >_< Soooooo tedious.



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02/26/2012 01:14 PM (UTC)
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:
how is it confusing or dumb?


It's dumb because they should have revealed that they were spending their time on Ruby / Sapphire / Emerald remakes or an actual 3rd game for Gen V that isn't two separate games. They must have been doing as much crack as Whitney Houston (HINT: A LOT OF CRACK) when they thought of this idea.


What are you talking about? How is that an explanation to why it's dumb?
Who says what they have been doing or not? Certainly not you, that's for sure.

By the way, making wisecracks about dead celebrities doesn't make you clever, intelligent, hip or cool. Just thought I'd let you know.

This isn't confusing or dumb. It's new and interesting.
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02/26/2012 04:38 PM (UTC)
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:
how is it confusing or dumb?


It's dumb because they should have revealed that they were spending their time on Ruby / Sapphire / Emerald remakes or an actual 3rd game for Gen V that isn't two separate games. They must have been doing as much crack as Whitney Houston (HINT: A LOT OF CRACK) when they thought of this idea.


I'm not against the later generations of Pokemon but I would much rather have the remakes over a 3rd version.

There is no reason for them to choose



over something like this



or this



The only confusing thing about this is how they are going to progress the story that they tried making a huge part (Way to big of a part in my opinion) of Black & White. I was constantly annoyed by all of the horrible characters from the Gen. V games. The Pokemon they concocted for Gen V were actually better than the horrible characters. The only good "Teams" were Team Magma and Team Aqua. I felt like while completing the main plot of the game, there was more being stopped to talk to people (forced conversations) than there was time actually playing the game. They could at least try to make the story a bit more interesting if they were going to make a 3rd version for the Gen V games, but just making sequel to a game that's ending really had no where left to go in terms of progressing the story is a bit ridiculous.


In all fairness, the remakes come after the "3rd" game of a generation, and improves upon that formula greatly, so In 1-2 years. Most likely 2, we'll see a new Ruby and Sapphire on 3DS.
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02/26/2012 06:09 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:

What are you talking about? How is that an explanation to why it's dumb?


1. The below paragraph describing the only thing confusing expands on to why it is dumb but since you are most likely to lazy to go back and read something..... allow me to retype it for you in simpler terms.

They tried to rely to much on a story when the point of Pokemon has never been an intriguing story other then "Work to become Pokemon League Champion while stopping bad guys on the side", not "Only get the 8 badges to become to the pokemon league champion because the other gym leaders are trying extra hard to stop the bad guys too and while be put in the story further than they should be even though they all have the characteristics of a breadstick." The forced conversations took up more time then the actual gameplay which is pretty pathetic. Normally dealing with 1 rival is bad enough but it seems like every other step you are getting stopped by Cheren or Bianca.

Now I don't hate Gen V but let's not forget that when it comes down to it... it's a fact that more than half of the Pokemon are horrible & lazy concoctions. You want another reason this is stupid. Black and White forced you to get the main legendary of the game, so I can only imagine that if this game is following the same formula, that you will be forced in this one. For all we know it could just be the same lame-ass story with some added features. Want to know a good added feature they could make? MAKE IT FOR THE FUCKING 3DS ALREADY.


^ All of these reasons are why it is dumb that they are making this instead of the R/S/E remakes as I originally posted.

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Who says what they have been doing or not? Certainly not you, that's for sure.


Not once in my post did I say I called the shots at Nintendo or GameFreak. Nice try though pal.

Zentile Wrote:

This isn't confusing or dumb. It's new and interesting.


It is new but it is not interesting. It is dumb and as I said, the only confusing part is how they are going to progress a story that seemed to have an end that would lead to no sequel.

By the way, acting like a jackass doesn't make you clever, intelligent, hip or cool. Just thought I'd let you know.
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02/26/2012 06:33 PM (UTC)
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
The below paragraph describing the only thing confusing expands on to why it is dumb but since you are most likely to lazy to go back and read something..... allow me to retype it for you in simpler terms.


Stop being so hostile, no one is attacking you

TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
Now I don't hate Gen V but let's not forget that when it comes down to it... it's a fact that more than half of the Pokemon are horrible & lazy concoctions.


Its not a fact, its an opinion. The same thing can be said about past generations. Look at the Pokemon from the first generation without nostalgia goggles on and you'll see a lot of shit designs.

Voltorb, Grimer, Bellsprout, Geodude, Kabuto. Even the names get as weird as Gen V's names. Abracadabra Alakazam, Muk, Haunter, etc.

Every generation has trash designs and names. This isn't new

TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
You want another reason this is stupid. Black and White forced you to get the main legendary of the game, so I can only imagine that if this game is following the same formula, that you will be forced in this one. For all we know it could just be the same lame-ass story with some added features. Want to know a good added feature they could make? MAKE IT FOR THE FUCKING 3DS ALREADY. .


Now I didn't exactly enjoy the story in Black and White, but I'm all for a sequel. Again, this is uncharted territory for Pokemon and I can't wait to see what they do with it.

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All of these reasons are why it is dumb that they are making this instead of the R/S/E remakes as I originally posted.


Who's saying a remake won't happen?

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By the way, acting like a jackass doesn't make you clever, intelligent, hip or cool. Just thought I'd let you know.


dude seriously?
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02/26/2012 07:53 PM (UTC)
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Man I love debating! Time to piss people off and think you're a hotshot for callin stuff out and errbody call you a dick. I love the internet.
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02/26/2012 10:06 PM (UTC)
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I really like the Black Kyurem and White Kyurem designs. Also, from what I understand, the mascots are the same color as the title now to represent the dots within the two sides of the Yin-Yang symbol. I imagine it's best to pick up the same color as your original Black and White due to this.
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02/26/2012 10:21 PM (UTC)
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If they were going to make a direct sequel it should have been for R/B or G/S. I don't know how it would work, but as someone who hasn't played this generation, my interest is very low.
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02/26/2012 11:55 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
If they were going to make a direct sequel it should have been for R/B or G/S. I don't know how it would work, but as someone who hasn't played this generation, my interest is very low.


This. I completely lost interest after R/S. The pokemon became bland and boring, and the protagonists looked worse and worse.

Also, G/S had some lingering plot points from R/B, like Gary, Blaine, and Giovanni's stories, and the ability to fight Red at Mt Moon, plus the interconnecting regions. One COULD argue that G/S was a true sequel to R/B, just with a different PC
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02/27/2012 01:26 AM (UTC)
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Regarding a R/S Remake:

I don't think it would be fruitful at the moment, One thing that made sense with Fr/Lg is that Gen. I and Gen. III occurred at the same time, and Gen. II and Gen. IV occurred at the same time (which is why HG/SS were released along D/P/Pt. However, Gen. V is confirmed to have occurred after the events of Gen. IV/II (hence Cynthia talking about the D/P/Pt protagonist, and a random trainer who was ex-Team Rocket in Unova).

Regarding Black/White 2:

I'm betting the story has something to do with Kyurem being merged with Zekrom/Reshiram (just look at the Kyruems). It's also been confirmed that Black Kyurem will be Black's Mascot, unlike Reshiram in Black 1.

Another thing I'm guessing is that there'll be a completely new region that connects to Unova (ala Johto in Gen. II). If this region will be West of Unova then maybe Anville town will be part of it, and the Train Station there will connect to Unova via Nimbasa City. Or if it's north, maybe the Unova Elite Four could be the same much like in GSC, and the connection to Unova would be from there. Lastly though, if there is a connection to the East, it would have to be via the ocean, and Undella Town.
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02/27/2012 02:32 AM (UTC)
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
It is new but it is not interesting. It is dumb and as I said, the only confusing part is how they are going to progress a story that seemed to have an end that would lead to no sequel.

By the way, acting like a jackass doesn't make you clever, intelligent, hip or cool. Just thought I'd let you know.

You make a joke about Whitney Houston's death for no reason at all in a Pokémon thread and I'm the jackass?

You have yet to explain how this is dumb OR confusing. It's different than the norm, that's the only thing you've been right about. Have fun playing the game once it comes out and you buy it anyway.
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02/27/2012 06:32 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:

You make a joke about Whitney Houston's death for no reason at all in a Pokémon thread and I'm the jackass?

You have yet to explain how this is dumb OR confusing. It's different than the norm, that's the only thing you've been right about. Have fun playing the game once it comes out and you buy it anyway.


I'm not going to keep arguing with you since you clearly don't read my posts fully and realize that it being dumb is a matter of opinion and your opinion is not fact. I know my opinion isn't and I never said it was but you repeatedly questioning my opinion in the way that you are is basically saying that you think your opinion is a fact. It's not, and it is pretty pathetic if you actually think that way.

1. I am sorry if you or anyone else here is butt-hurt at a Whitney Houston joke. She self-destructed herself through the use of drugs and I don't pity celebrities that kill themselves like that. It's kinda sad that people do feel bad for someone who does that to themselves... Anyway this isn't a thread on how dumb it is for people to feel sorry for crackheads..... so that brings me to

2. I never said whether or not I was going to buy the game. I will decide that when more info is revealed other than the cover Pokemon and the name of the games are revealed. If there is nothing that fantastic being added, I won't buy it. The Kyurem's look decent but again, that isn't enough to have me sold on the game. Giratina's forms looked decent but that didn't make me buy Platinum right away.

3. Not regarding anything from the quoted post but the game itself - I think if they expand to another region, it should be one of the older ones as opposed to a new one. The designs of the newer regions are starting to get worse (I mean Unova was a hexagon on a string pretty much). I know Unova is supposed to be far away from the other 4 regions that have been in the games so far, but I am sure they can figure some way to travel back to one of them. I am not asking for a game where all of the regions are accessible because while I would enjoy that a lot, it just doesn't seem like something they would end up doing in my opinion.

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02/27/2012 05:26 PM (UTC)
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I'm not going to keep arguing with you since you clearly don't read my posts fully and realize that it being dumb is a matter of opinion and your opinion is not fact. I know my opinion isn't and I never said it was but you repeatedly questioning my opinion in the way that you are is basically saying that you think your opinion is a fact. It's not, and it is pretty pathetic if you actually think that way.

1. I am sorry if you or anyone else here is butt-hurt at a Whitney Houston joke. She self-destructed herself through the use of drugs and I don't pity celebrities that kill themselves like that. It's kinda sad that people do feel bad for someone who does that to themselves... Anyway this isn't a thread on how dumb it is for people to feel sorry for crackheads..... so that brings me to

2. I never said whether or not I was going to buy the game. I will decide that when more info is revealed other than the cover Pokemon and the name of the games are revealed. If there is nothing that fantastic being added, I won't buy it. The Kyurem's look decent but again, that isn't enough to have me sold on the game. Giratina's forms looked decent but that didn't make me buy Platinum right away.

3. Not regarding anything from the quoted post but the game itself - I think if they expand to another region, it should be one of the older ones as opposed to a new one. The designs of the newer regions are starting to get worse (I mean Unova was a hexagon on a string pretty much). I know Unova is supposed to be far away from the other 4 regions that have been in the games so far, but I am sure they can figure some way to travel back to one of them. I am not asking for a game where all of the regions are accessible because while I would enjoy that a lot, it just doesn't seem like something they would end up doing in my opinion.


The Grammar Nazi in me wants to fuck the fuck outta this, but I won't intrude on your petty argument... carry on.
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02/28/2012 01:08 AM (UTC)
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I'm definitely not reading that white block.
Listen, there's no argument here.
I think you're a jackass for making that joke for no reason. There was no reason, you just threw it in like joking about dead celebrities makes you cool. I disagree. I just pointed it out. If you think I'm a jackass, that's fine because I don't give a damn.

In my opinion, this isn't dumb or confusing and so far there haven't been any convincing points otherwise. If you disagree with me, that's fine too because again I couldn't care less.

And you are going to buy the game, despite calling it dumb. I know you will.

End of story, yes?
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02/28/2012 03:07 AM (UTC)
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To ease the heat in here......

Sequel, or retread of the first game with details added to continue the story? Does anyone know yet?
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02/28/2012 03:23 AM (UTC)
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