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TheDarkPrince
05/03/2005 05:05 PM (UTC)
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The porn industry should be shut down. We have enough filth already.

Chrome how old are you 70?tongue
The sex business is a billion dollar profession a year it's not going anywhere anytime soon.And face it kids will get there hands on porn no matter what.I saw my first movie when I was about 8 years old and porn was harder to come by in the 80's then it is now(No internet).Should the age limit be changed imo no it should stay at 18,but like most teens are going to wait til there 18 to seek porn out anyway.Changing the age will not change how and when kids will see porn imo so why bother.It's up to the parents to make sure thier kids are mature enough mentally to handle porn when they see it not the porn biz.
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05/03/2005 05:11 PM (UTC)
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SkeletonofSociety Wrote:
Just a tiny little problem with that experiment. Its kind of um, you know, unethical and immoral heh.......wink


Well if you're going to let something like that get in the way...

Chrome Wrote:
The porn industry should be shut down. We have enough filth already.


I could say the same about the tobacco industry. I'm no fan of the stuff but people have the right to do shitty things to themselves within reason. Whatever the case, people need an outlet for sexual gratification otherwise there will be dire consequences. Maybe you and me won't be affected but the mass population will resort to rather...unusual...methods. In Japan, pubic hair cannot be shown. So models, drawn and real, have been made to look younger and younger to avoid this detail. The rest is history. There's even stuff in Japan known as nostril porn (I don't think that needs further detailing). So without the classy stuff like Hugh Hefner does, people will resort primarily to the strange and unusual. That's not to say we don't have strange stuff here, but the average joe doesn't have any interest in that.
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05/03/2005 05:40 PM (UTC)
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Shoot, personally I saw my first picture of a naked woman when I was like 9. Probably saw my first bit of porn when I was like 10 or 11. That includes lesbian shit. Yeah, I knew about, and saw all that stuff when I was just a little kid, and I have to thank my perverted older brothers and their friend Chris for getting me into it.

But as far as an appropriate age for viewing pornography? I think 18 is a good age, of course nobody follows that law. Well, I guess whenever you want to look at titties, go for it!
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shankdaddy
05/03/2005 06:33 PM (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger Wrote:
SkeletonofSociety Wrote:
Just a tiny little problem with that experiment. Its kind of um, you know, unethical and immoral heh.......wink


Well if you're going to let something like that get in the way...

Chrome Wrote:
The porn industry should be shut down. We have enough filth already.


I could say the same about the tobacco industry. I'm no fan of the stuff but people have the right to do shitty things to themselves within reason. Whatever the case, people need an outlet for sexual gratification otherwise there will be dire consequences. Maybe you and me won't be affected but the mass population will resort to rather...unusual...methods. In Japan, pubic hair cannot be shown. So models, drawn and real, have been made to look younger and younger to avoid this detail. The rest is history. There's even stuff in Japan known as nostril porn (I don't think that needs further detailing). So without the classy stuff like Hugh Hefner does, people will resort primarily to the strange and unusual. That's not to say we don't have strange stuff here, but the average joe doesn't have any interest in that.


Actually in Japan pubic hair is all they can show now. They censor everything else and if there's not enough hair to cover the genitals in magazines they draw more on with marker before printing it. And their movies are blurred around the genitals but not the pubic hair or the anus.

Just FYI. Pubes are in now in Japan
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05/03/2005 07:54 PM (UTC)
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shankdaddy Wrote:
TonyTheTiger Wrote:
SkeletonofSociety Wrote:
Just a tiny little problem with that experiment. Its kind of um, you know, unethical and immoral heh.......wink


Well if you're going to let something like that get in the way...

Chrome Wrote:
The porn industry should be shut down. We have enough filth already.


I could say the same about the tobacco industry. I'm no fan of the stuff but people have the right to do shitty things to themselves within reason. Whatever the case, people need an outlet for sexual gratification otherwise there will be dire consequences. Maybe you and me won't be affected but the mass population will resort to rather...unusual...methods. In Japan, pubic hair cannot be shown. So models, drawn and real, have been made to look younger and younger to avoid this detail. The rest is history. There's even stuff in Japan known as nostril porn (I don't think that needs further detailing). So without the classy stuff like Hugh Hefner does, people will resort primarily to the strange and unusual. That's not to say we don't have strange stuff here, but the average joe doesn't have any interest in that.


Actually in Japan pubic hair is all they can show now. They censor everything else and if there's not enough hair to cover the genitals in magazines they draw more on with marker before printing it. And their movies are blurred around the genitals but not the pubic hair or the anus.

Just FYI. Pubes are in now in Japan

An interesting thing to note about that: the laws against showing genitals in Japanese porn has led to the popularity of the genre known as bukkake (which I shall decline to describe, lest I offend anyone), which is probably one of the most degrading types of porn to women. So that's what you get with censorship like that.
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05/03/2005 08:01 PM (UTC)
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Pubes are in now in Japan


Wasn't that a prophecy of armageddon, according to Nostradamus? "Great walls of flame and death will cover the lands... when pubes are in Japan." tongue

I'm siding with most of the opinions already stated - 18 seems fine with me, but it sure as heck isn't going to stop anyone (including myself) from viewing/enjoying the material ahead of time. Simply put, if I hadn't been exposed to it like I was, my cunnilingus abilities would have taken much longer to perfect. wow

For me, it was all educational, more than anything else. Personally, I always viewed it as 'people doing what they do for money' - not degrading to either men nor women in general, IMO.
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Siduu101
05/03/2005 08:26 PM (UTC)
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Little kids can watch the WTC falling to the ground but shouldn't watch porn?
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05/03/2005 09:34 PM (UTC)
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Little kids can watch the WTC falling to the ground but shouldn't watch porn?


That is by far the stupidest analogy Ive ever heard. Porn and death are two very different things. What it really comes down to is how a child would percieve pornography. If you have two 6 year olds who continuously watch a lot of porn, one can grow up to be a sexual predator, and one can be perfectly normal, or both can be the same. Putting an age limit at 18 kinda regulates it somewhat, other than making it completely legal.
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05/03/2005 09:46 PM (UTC)
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Actually I think censoring sex and nudity is what leads to sex crimes. If it's not such a big deal, people don't obsess over it. When you have it everywhere but tell kids not to look at it, it's just like smoking cigarettes and telling them not to. Which is why people still smoke today.

In Societies where nudity is common and not looked at as evil or dirty, people don't give a crap about seeing someone naked. Then they don't obsess over it so much that they become perverse and do things like spying, molesting or even raping.

I remember when I lived in Japan I went to several arcades. There are always adult games mixed in with the other games and the kids there just ignored them. I never once saw a kid standing at the adult games getting excited. Only american adults.
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Garlador
05/03/2005 10:04 PM (UTC)
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There's some truth to that, but there's also some problems, too. It's a known fact that overexposure to certain things, like naked women or curse-word-laden songs, makes you less prone to obsess over it. It becomes less shocking and more "normal." Quite frankly, I don't think that's how it should be. I don't want my kid to go into a video game arcade and walk past a game where you try and take off a girl's bra. I think that, yes, it would make porn less appealing... but it would also make a woman, herself, be less appealing. There is great beauty in the nude female form, and it would be a shame if it were degraded rather than glorified. Porn has its problems; it leads to addictions and fantasies and unfulfilled expectations and misconceptions about women. A woman's body should be something to honor and respect, and in the proper construct, that is true. I hold true in saying that the nude body is artist and beautiful only until it is perceived as erotic. When that line is crossed, the beauty fades and the woman behind the body is reduced to nothing more than a cheap sexual fantasy. Fatality.
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mkflegend
05/03/2005 10:05 PM (UTC)
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Tobacco actually kills,porn doesn't!!!!!!!!!!
Besides porn is needed for single people to get a rise LOL,among a million other reasons,18 and up i say.
This is a touchy subject for some people,and is very much open for debate
Shit some people also make up their own homemade pornos LOL!!!!smile
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05/03/2005 10:23 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
There's some truth to that, but there's also some problems, too. It's a known fact that overexposure to certain things, like naked women or curse-word-laden songs, makes you less prone to obsess over it. It becomes less shocking and more "normal." Quite frankly, I don't think that's how it should be. I don't want my kid to go into a video game arcade and walk past a game where you try and take off a girl's bra. I think that, yes, it would make porn less appealing... but it would also make a woman, herself, be less appealing. There is great beauty in the nude female form, and it would be a shame if it were degraded rather than glorified. Porn has its problems; it leads to addictions and fantasies and unfulfilled expectations and misconceptions about women. A woman's body should be something to honor and respect, and in the proper construct, that is true. I hold true in saying that the nude body is artist and beautiful only until it is perceived as erotic. When that line is crossed, the beauty fades and the woman behind the body is reduced to nothing more than a cheap sexual fantasy. Fatality.


Yeah but not the guys right? Cause they're not part of the fantasy only the women.
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05/03/2005 10:36 PM (UTC)
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I grew up in a country where such things weren't as heavily cencored. Infact adults spoke about it around kids and we were all aware of what it was. I turned out fine and no I'm not a sex maniac. Far from it. Until I was about 12 the very thought of porn disgusted me so unless you're shoving it in kids faces it shouldn't affect them. Not to mention the fact that sex is a natural part of life. Why sugar coat it? It's not violence or drugs. That I understand if we hide the harshness of reality from our kids in hope that they'll turn out alright but sex is a great part of life and I don't see how we accomplish anything by cencoring it and hiding it from our kids. Let it be there. Don't force it on anyone but be a bit more open about it. Europe is alot more tolerant of nudity/sex and that's why theyre a little less ignorant than others around the world when it comes to certian things. Not to mention that if you keep something from kids that'll make them want it even more and just raise the level of curiosity in their heads.
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05/03/2005 10:56 PM (UTC)
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Exactly.
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05/03/2005 11:21 PM (UTC)
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People say how limited America is when it comes to sexuality but it's really not true. Playboy, the number one proprietor of pornographic material in the world, is American. If you're an American kid and you want porn it's really easy to get. Easier than getting cigarettes or beer actually. Violence, on the other hand, tends to be treated more harshly by governments (ala Germany) that do censor it. (Note: It's a misconception that the U.S. Government censors sex. It doesn't). The European version of Turok: Dinosaur Hunter only had green blood and the Japanese version of Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 had similar censoring done. Batman Beyond was chopped up in England from what I hear so that Batman wouldn't be shown getting hurt. It isn't fair for a government to censor either sex or violence in the form of entertainment unless it's an extreme case where someone is actually getting hurt. Child porn, NAMBLA, real snuff films, and other things of the sort need to be stamped out. It could be argued that in those instances it's no longer censorship but rather law enforcement but that's a whole different story altogether. My point is, regulation is ok but censorship isn't. If you don't want kids to see someone have his head ripped off or two women making out then create a rating system. Don't censor the material itself.
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05/03/2005 11:36 PM (UTC)
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Alpha_Q_Up Wrote:
Siduu101 Wrote:
Little kids can watch the WTC falling to the ground but shouldn't watch porn?


That is by far the stupidest analogy Ive ever heard. Porn and death are two very different things. What it really comes down to is how a child would percieve pornography. If you have two 6 year olds who continuously watch a lot of porn, one can grow up to be a sexual predator, and one can be perfectly normal, or both can be the same. Putting an age limit at 18 kinda regulates it somewhat, other than making it completely legal.


And you don't think watching 4muslim terrorist kill over one thousand people can cause kids to despise muslims?
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05/03/2005 11:44 PM (UTC)
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Look, anyone can come up with anything for any reason. If we are so concerned about what a person may do because of something then we'd be living like a bunch of scared little puppies. No pencils in school! Someone may get the idea to stab someone in the eye with one. Forget about driving cars. Those things can kill you. And have you heard that fire can do damage? Let's stop cooking our food. What's important is not whether or not something can be dangerous when used incorrectly but rather how educated people are at the potential dangers. You tell kids not to play with matches for a reason. Not because matches are evil but because damage can be done if proper care isn't taken. It's pretty easy to get behind the wheel of a car and drive to the store. It's dangerous to do that drunk. We all have to show some responsibility with what we do. It's a part of being human. Good and bad can come from anything. It's how we handle it that makes the difference.
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05/04/2005 12:17 AM (UTC)
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shankdaddy Wrote:
Garlador Wrote:
There's some truth to that, but there's also some problems, too. It's a known fact that overexposure to certain things, like naked women or curse-word-laden songs, makes you less prone to obsess over it. It becomes less shocking and more "normal." Quite frankly, I don't think that's how it should be. I don't want my kid to go into a video game arcade and walk past a game where you try and take off a girl's bra. I think that, yes, it would make porn less appealing... but it would also make a woman, herself, be less appealing. There is great beauty in the nude female form, and it would be a shame if it were degraded rather than glorified. Porn has its problems; it leads to addictions and fantasies and unfulfilled expectations and misconceptions about women. A woman's body should be something to honor and respect, and in the proper construct, that is true. I hold true in saying that the nude body is artist and beautiful only until it is perceived as erotic. When that line is crossed, the beauty fades and the woman behind the body is reduced to nothing more than a cheap sexual fantasy. Fatality.


Yeah but not the guys right? Cause they're not part of the fantasy only the women.

No, guys too. I only used women as an example because I'm a man. I think sex is a great thing, really, when used in the proper context. Sex can be great, but it can also do a lot of wrong. I've seen some sick stuff on pornography sites, stuff that I think should be illegal. But all pornography in general has had a negetive impact upon my life. I follow a standard that calls for me to give women respect and to be a gentleman to them. I used to look at a woman and want to get to know them, not to lust after their bodies in sexual fantasies. When I get married, I don't want any other woman's face or body to pop-up while I'm with my wife. Fantasy is just that: fantasy. But it creates a longing for something you can never have, of something you shouldn't have. There's few men today who, when they see a buxom young woman walk by, think "I wonder if she has a good mind?" Sex is wonderful, but I don't want to base a relationship off of sex, because that'll crumble to dust. I don't want a fantasy; I want a reality with a real woman, someone who doesn't satisfy me sexually but spiritually, emotionally. I want a woman who makes me better, a woman of standards and character and virtue. THAT is the most erotic, desirable woman in my eyes. A woman of physical beauty and big boobs is one in five. A woman of noble standards and character is one in a million. If I'm to deserve such a woman, porn can have no place in my life, because it would only cheapen my view of her, and I'd rather die than to do that. Fatality.
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05/04/2005 12:23 AM (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger Wrote:
Look, anyone can come up with anything for any reason. If we are so concerned about what a person may do because of something then we'd be living like a bunch of scared little puppies. No pencils in school! Someone may get the idea to stab someone in the eye with one. Forget about driving cars. Those things can kill you. And have you heard that fire can do damage? Let's stop cooking our food. What's important is not whether or not something can be dangerous when used incorrectly but rather how educated people are at the potential dangers. You tell kids not to play with matches for a reason. Not because matches are evil but because damage can be done if proper care isn't taken. It's pretty easy to get behind the wheel of a car and drive to the store. It's dangerous to do that drunk. We all have to show some responsibility with what we do. It's a part of being human. Good and bad can come from anything. It's how we handle it that makes the difference.

And I agree with that completely. I think pornography is dangerous ground. Whether you can handle it or not, and at what age, is your own decision, much in the same way everyone has different amounts of alcohol they can consume before getting drunk. You have to know your limits, but to me, I'd rather not take that risk, especially when someone else's happiness and well-being is at stake. Fatality.
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05/04/2005 12:45 AM (UTC)
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Good point Gar. I don't see as much harm in it as you do, but if it has had such a negative impact on your life then perhaps you are better without it. I agree with you 100% about what's important in a woman, but the physical aspect is important as well.
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TheKrypt
05/04/2005 01:38 AM (UTC)
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What is the appropriate age for view plant pornography?(photosynthesis)

I am afraid if anyone of my family members found out I get turned on by that stuff. But I have an undesirable urge to look at plants go *photosynthesis, sparkle sparkle, glimmer!* It just turns me on and I don't know what to do. The Tulips and the sasparillas are the most entertaining.

I really need all your help to get me away from these plants, will you help?!

*EDIT* Pornography should be viewed at age 16 I think. Just to answer the topics question.
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05/04/2005 01:42 AM (UTC)
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TheKrypt Wrote:
What is the appropriate age for view plant pornography?(photosynthesis)

I am afraid if anyone of my family members found out I get turned on by that stuff. But I have an undesirable urge to look at plants go *photosynthesis, sparkle sparkle, glimmer!* It just turns me on and I don't know what to do. The Tulips and the sasparillas are the most entertaining.

I really need all your help to get me away from these plants, will you help?!



I took 'Horticulture Class' in high school... but that didn't help me. sad



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Anyway, I think the appropriate age for viewing pornography is 18, because the minds of teenagers are more advance in the way they think by that age, than a 13 year old.
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05/04/2005 01:59 AM (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger Wrote:
People say how limited America is when it comes to sexuality but it's really not true. Playboy, the number one proprietor of pornographic material in the world, is American. If you're an American kid and you want porn it's really easy to get. Easier than getting cigarettes or beer actually. Violence, on the other hand, tends to be treated more harshly by governments (ala Germany) that do censor it. (Note: It's a misconception that the U.S. Government censors sex. It doesn't). The European version of Turok: Dinosaur Hunter only had green blood and the Japanese version of Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 had similar censoring done. Batman Beyond was chopped up in England from what I hear so that Batman wouldn't be shown getting hurt. It isn't fair for a government to censor either sex or violence in the form of entertainment unless it's an extreme case where someone is actually getting hurt. Child porn, NAMBLA, real snuff films, and other things of the sort need to be stamped out. It could be argued that in those instances it's no longer censorship but rather law enforcement but that's a whole different story altogether. My point is, regulation is ok but censorship isn't. If you don't want kids to see someone have his head ripped off or two women making out then create a rating system. Don't censor the material itself.


No? Last time I checked America freaked out from seeing a half exposed breast on t.v. Tell me that's not over-doing it...
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05/04/2005 02:01 AM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
There's few men today who, when they see a buxom young woman walk by, think "I wonder if she has a good mind?"


There's probably a reason for that.

If we know we'll never get to know her, and we'll never get to talk to her, then why ask such a question? You're attracted to her physical appearence (which would be what caught your eye to make you ask yourself such a question about that particular woman to begin with) and it'll never be anything more, so why try to make it anything more?

Maybe i've mistaken you, but you seem really adamant that looks are of no importance, or that you somehow take pride in not being physically attracted to woman unless you're married to them, as if it somehow means you have high standards or something.
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05/04/2005 02:12 AM (UTC)
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Siduu101 Wrote:
Alpha_Q_Up Wrote:
Siduu101 Wrote:
Little kids can watch the WTC falling to the ground but shouldn't watch porn?


That is by far the stupidest analogy Ive ever heard. Porn and death are two very different things. What it really comes down to is how a child would percieve pornography. If you have two 6 year olds who continuously watch a lot of porn, one can grow up to be a sexual predator, and one can be perfectly normal, or both can be the same. Putting an age limit at 18 kinda regulates it somewhat, other than making it completely legal.


And you don't think watching 4muslim terrorist kill over one thousand people can cause kids to despise muslims?


If they had half a brain like you, then probably. Kids didnt actually see the muslims, all they saw, all anyone really saw was two planes crashing in the WTC. If a kid despised muslims then that would all be the parents faults because no kid would discriminate them on their own free will, it would be based on the parents actions, and this has nothing to do with the subject.
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