Social justice warriors, and how they rile up people
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posted05/10/2015 07:19 AM (UTC)by
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Social justice warrior. Intended as an insult towards anyone who protests bigotry in the media, in short. People who use that word seem pretty paranoid about "SJWs".

So what I want to know is, if you're not a dumb bigot, why would you be bothered by anyone suggesting better representations of women and minorities in the media? Just what's the worst thing that could happen if women and minorities were better represented?

Other than the obvious conservative bigots, the other type of people that seem to get riled up by "SJWs" are liberals who can't stand being reminded that we don't live in a post-racial utopia, and idiots that could be either liberal or conservative that aren't intentionally bigoted, but too ignorant to appreciate the plight of other groups of people.

To conclude, here's something for the anti-SJW crowd below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Joyz_qyLYA

One of the most beautiful and soothing scenes ever.
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04/15/2015 09:15 PM (UTC)
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I tend to think of "Social Justice Warrior" as a variation of the outdated term "Keyboard Warrior". The problem isn't the message, it's the way the message is delivered.
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04/16/2015 08:15 AM (UTC)
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Well, as a Conservative bigot, I tend to see "Social Justice Warriors" as crying wolf. The more you declare something racist, the more tame that term becomes. It is not sexist to refuse a job to a 90lb woman that requires an individual to carry 60+ pounds multiple times a day. I sense the "Social Justice Warriors" hit upon the exception and not the rule. Fire Departments shouldn't lower standards to meet racial quotas and women should be allowed to be Special Forces if they pass the same physical requirements men have to pass.

Furthermore, the types of people harp on the issue that people will be offended. Taking offense on other's behalf is a wonderful gift white America has given non-white America. I recall going to college in Virginia, 2500 miles from my home. I was in a conversation with a student aide; a hipster grad student stereotype if I ever saw one. He was from Connecticut and had a strong interest in Native Americans. I told him I grew up on the Nez Perce Indian Reservation, and he scolded me for using that term Indian, that it was an insensitive term given by European oppressors. I let it go, but that still angers me to this day. Why? Well, I grew up on The Nez Perce Indian Reservation, the Nez Perce prefer the term American Indian, and actively campaign against legislation labeling them as Native Americans; their mythology tells that they are not native to this land. The student aide took offense to a people being called what they want to be called, and insisted they be referred to in a terminology that contradicts their ancestral lore.

If I am not offended, I have no right to act so. I can advise it as unwise, but beyond that I have no place commanding the feelings of others, this is abused daily. The question of what if has replaced what is, and that makes the actual problems less apparent. If everything is racism, sexism, or bigotry than nothing is. People deserve nothing based on the color of their skin or what is between their legs - positive or negative.

They're called "Indians" because sailors thought they reached India, and China. Genetically, the various North American tribes are Asian, Polynesian, and Mongoloid, iirc.

I just wish folks wouldn't persistently, intentionally go out of their way to insult, and degrade people.
Racism IS Bullying, Sexism IS Bullying, Homophobia IS Bullying.
Homophobes probably fear getting raped as punishment for their abusive womanizing.
I wanna be able to leave the house without wanting to kill everybody for being ignorant assholes!



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04/16/2015 10:32 PM (UTC)
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Tetra_Vega Wrote:
They're called "Indians" because sailors thought they reached India, and China. Genetically, the various North American tribes are Asian, Polynesian, and Mongoloid, iirc.

I just wish folks wouldn't persistently, intentionally go out of their way to insult, and degrade people.
Racism IS Bullying, Sexism IS Bullying, Homophobia IS Bullying.
Homophobes probably fear getting raped as punishment for their abusive womanizing.
I wanna be able to leave the house without wanting to kill everybody for being ignorant assholes!



Ka-Tra


I'd like to go on the Internet without being labeled as a homophobe, Republican, un-educated, un-scientific, racist, sexist, bigotted anti-progressive person just because I'm a devout hardcore Christian.

I have Atheist friends that I'd die for, I have a couple of gay friends that are just as welcome to come to my house as anyone else. I'm the only fully white guy in my group of friends (We call ourselves the Nerd-Herd) I registered as Independant because I agree with some things Republicans say, and some things Democrats say, I enjoy and love Science. All kinds of Science!
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04/16/2015 10:49 PM (UTC)
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Tetra_Vega Wrote:
Genetically, the various North American tribes are Asian, Polynesian, and Mongoloid, iirc.


Fantastic.
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04/17/2015 08:28 AM (UTC)
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SJWs came up with the term White Privelage. Thats enough right there for me to despise them. SJWs are so hellbent on getting black people and women to like them that it seems I would be happier as a racist misogynist because SJWs act so fucking douchey.
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04/17/2015 01:56 PM (UTC)
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colt1107 Wrote:
SJWs came up with the term White Privelage. Thats enough right there for me to despise them. SJWs are so hellbent on getting black people and women to like them that it seems I would be happier as a racist misogynist because SJWs act so fucking douchey.


O.M.G.

So for you, the only way to get back at SJWs is to be a bigot? Ha ha ha!

Yes, people who want better representation for women and minorities probably just want to be liked by them. It can't be out of an honest desire to see them better represented, or anything crazy like that. What kind of white straight guy can actually care this much about their plight? (sarcasm)

And LOL at you being in denial about white privilege. Yes, it's probably just a coincidence that most fiction feature white characters in the leading roles. As well as a lot of other cases of white people getting preferential treatment in general.

You know, if a woman ever piss me off, I think I'll follow your advice and be a sexist loser. Because, when a woman offends a man, how else can a man get some payback but by using the woman's gender against her? At least, that's what your "logic" implies. Lol.


I agree with some of Coltess points, about workload, and frame issues. And I also dislike the bandwagon posers. Part of why the occupy movement failed was them being unfocused, and not really getting the issues people were actually trying to raise.

Other people resist, they think it`s easier just to let shit slide...

I hate getting called faggot or gay because of my long hair.
You know damn well most gay men are either shaved bald or have regular short office hair, ceo combovers, regular guy hair. Counting lesbians, the majority of homosexuals have short hair. Smoke`s hair doesn`t make him a gay pretty boy. If you think we`re pretty, that sounds like a problem on your end...

Your ignorant attitude is what`s fucking g.. nevermindThis sweater IS Gay however...

Humans who claim to be Death are soldiers, and killers.
Misinterpreted like the tarot card, I am the chaotic winds of change...
Yippy Kai Yay, Motherfuckers...



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Blade4693
04/17/2015 03:25 PM (UTC)
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Nevermind lol don't feel like getting into a debate with anyone
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lanadelrey
04/18/2015 03:49 AM (UTC)
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Blade4693 Wrote:
Nevermind lol don't feel like getting into a debate with anyone


You had really good points tho
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SubMan799
04/18/2015 09:30 AM (UTC)
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SJWs don't exist in real life
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04/18/2015 05:53 PM (UTC)
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DG1OA Wrote:
colt1107 Wrote:
SJWs came up with the term White Privelage. Thats enough right there for me to despise them. SJWs are so hellbent on getting black people and women to like them that it seems I would be happier as a racist misogynist because SJWs act so fucking douchey.


O.M.G.

So for you, the only way to get back at SJWs is to be a bigot? Ha ha ha!

Yes, people who want better representation for women and minorities probably just want to be liked by them. It can't be out of an honest desire to see them better represented, or anything crazy like that. What kind of white straight guy can actually care this much about their plight? (sarcasm)

And LOL at you being in denial about white privilege. Yes, it's probably just a coincidence that most fiction feature white characters in the leading roles. As well as a lot of other cases of white people getting preferential treatment in general.

You know, if a woman ever piss me off, I think I'll follow your advice and be a sexist loser. Because, when a woman offends a man, how else can a man get some payback but by using the woman's gender against her? At least, that's what your "logic" implies. Lol.




I'm not trying to get back at them... I don't want to be them in any kind of way. In America women especially don't need more representation. Minorities don't need more representation. The Gender Wage Gap is a fallacy. The 1 in 5 women getting raped is also a fallacy. Women have won. They are more free in my country than men are but feminists and SJWs still have to bitch about something don't they? The only time I've ever experienced white Privilege is that I don't get pulled over for being black. Otherwise I've just had to work since I was 14 years old, pay bills, and tell college to go fuck itself because student loans are bullshit. They don't give out free college to white males. Just remember it's not sexist to be a feminist but its misogynistic to be a meninist. It's not racist to use the term black power but I'm racist if I wanna say White Power.
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04/18/2015 09:07 PM (UTC)
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White privilege is not getting murdered because of the color of your skin. White privilege is not worrying about getting your job application accepted because of your "ghetto name". And racial minorities and women need more representaion in the media, especially video games. Around 5% of protagonists are female and 20% of them are black, and even less for other races.
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04/19/2015 02:52 AM (UTC)
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lanadelrey Wrote:
White privilege is not getting murdered because of the color of your skin. White privilege is not worrying about getting your job application accepted because of your "ghetto name". And racial minorities and women need more representaion in the media, especially video games. Around 5% of protagonists are female and 20% of them are black, and even less for other races.


White people don't get murdered because they are white? Is that what you're saying? You do realize that although the white population is the(vastly dwindling) majority in America more whites have been murdered by cops than black people have been murdered by cops. Also white people are assaulted and murdered by blacks at a far more alarming rate than vice versa. SJW's just create more racism by telling us than minorities and women need more ways to get ahead than white America.

As far as video games with a decreased role in minorities and women go you just have to look at who takes up the majority of those jobs. White men do. Is that the fault of the white man? Not at all so SJWs need to keep out of it.
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04/19/2015 03:33 AM (UTC)
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lanadelrey Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
Nevermind lol don't feel like getting into a debate with anyone


You had really good points tho


Why thank you :) I just decided to edit it out, I just wasn't really in the mood to get in a debate with anybody at the moment haha I probably should have left it alone but hey at least I don't have to worry about arguing with anybody :D
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04/19/2015 09:17 AM (UTC)
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Nothing social about them, Nothing just around them.

And they are no warriors.
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04/19/2015 01:45 PM (UTC)
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colt1107 Wrote:
DG1OA Wrote:
colt1107 Wrote:
SJWs came up with the term White Privelage. Thats enough right there for me to despise them. SJWs are so hellbent on getting black people and women to like them that it seems I would be happier as a racist misogynist because SJWs act so fucking douchey.


O.M.G.

So for you, the only way to get back at SJWs is to be a bigot? Ha ha ha!

Yes, people who want better representation for women and minorities probably just want to be liked by them. It can't be out of an honest desire to see them better represented, or anything crazy like that. What kind of white straight guy can actually care this much about their plight? (sarcasm)

And LOL at you being in denial about white privilege. Yes, it's probably just a coincidence that most fiction feature white characters in the leading roles. As well as a lot of other cases of white people getting preferential treatment in general.

You know, if a woman ever piss me off, I think I'll follow your advice and be a sexist loser. Because, when a woman offends a man, how else can a man get some payback but by using the woman's gender against her? At least, that's what your "logic" implies. Lol.




I'm not trying to get back at them... I don't want to be them in any kind of way. In America women especially don't need more representation. Minorities don't need more representation. The Gender Wage Gap is a fallacy. The 1 in 5 women getting raped is also a fallacy. Women have won. They are more free in my country than men are but feminists and SJWs still have to bitch about something don't they? The only time I've ever experienced white Privilege is that I don't get pulled over for being black. Otherwise I've just had to work since I was 14 years old, pay bills, and tell college to go fuck itself because student loans are bullshit. They don't give out free college to white males. Just remember it's not sexist to be a feminist but its misogynistic to be a meninist. It's not racist to use the term black power but I'm racist if I wanna say White Power.



...BWA HA HA!

Ok, now, to address your "points".

BWA HA HA!

Ok, I'm getting there, just hold on.

BWA HA HA!

Ah, fuck it.
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04/19/2015 09:41 PM (UTC)
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DG1OA Wrote:

...BWA HA HA!

Ok, now, to address your "points".

BWA HA HA!

Ok, I'm getting there, just hold on.

BWA HA HA!

Ah, fuck it.


So as to the question of why do some people dislike SJWs? This. Specifically this.
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04/20/2015 03:10 AM (UTC)
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OptimusGrime Wrote:
DG1OA Wrote:

...BWA HA HA!

Ok, now, to address your "points".

BWA HA HA!

Ok, I'm getting there, just hold on.

BWA HA HA!

Ah, fuck it.


So as to the question of why do some people dislike SJWs? This. Specifically this.


Basically yes this is the reason. You attempt to belittle anyone who threatens your views. Liberals and SJWs are basically the same thing except Liberals are more into politics. You both let emotion guide you in every decision you make and fuck over logic in the process. But here... I'll argue with links to back up what I say. I'm sure it won't matter because cognitive dissonance will kick in but let it be known that I made an attempt.

white privilege

real rape statistics

cops kill whites at double the rate they kill blacks

Race on Race crimes

I'll get into the RFRA a little later since the SJWs don't understand the law and hate freedom.
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04/20/2015 07:04 AM (UTC)
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SJW = Tell me more about how you're making a difference in today's world by sitting behind a keyboard and typing up rage filled nonsense that has no basis in real world usage.


SJW's are literally fools with a keyboard and more spare time on their hands than they know what to do with.


Before you go off about "White privilege" I'm Hispanic, so don't even try that bullshit.


I'm of the "doesn't affect me? don't give a fuck mentality?" Perfect example 1 in 5 women are raped" Interesting...did a woman in my family get raped? nope than why should I give a fuck about a random stranger?"

Call me selfish, but if you're not blood related to me or a long time friend. I could literally give two shits about your "plight for equality" or if you've been "raped by a dudebro at a frat party". It makes no difference in my day to day life so I refuse to give it the time of day.

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04/20/2015 09:09 AM (UTC)
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colt1107 Wrote:
OptimusGrime Wrote:
DG1OA Wrote:

...BWA HA HA!

Ok, now, to address your "points".

BWA HA HA!

Ok, I'm getting there, just hold on.

BWA HA HA!

Ah, fuck it.


So as to the question of why do some people dislike SJWs? This. Specifically this.


Basically yes this is the reason. You attempt to belittle anyone who threatens your views. Liberals and SJWs are basically the same thing except Liberals are more into politics. You both let emotion guide you in every decision you make and fuck over logic in the process. But here... I'll argue with links to back up what I say. I'm sure it won't matter because cognitive dissonance will kick in but let it be known that I made an attempt.

white privilege

real rape statistics

cops kill whites at double the rate they kill blacks

Race on Race crimes

I'll get into the RFRA a little later since the SJWs don't understand the law and hate freedom.


Goddamn
It`s not that they get too much or too little representation.
They need better, proper representation.
Competent people actually doing positive initiatives that don`t set you back decades, by pulling ridiculous stunts.

You don`t complain about being treated as sex objects, then hold slut walks, flaunting your whorish sexuality. You`re not taking control of your sexuality by being a whore. You`re just teasing rabid dogs with meat. There`s an ancient womens` quote``Men are pigs``

There was a news story last year in Nova Scotia, some girls complained about being suspended for violating the school dress code with short shorts. The main issue is supposedly that male students, and teachers were being distracted by the girls sexy legs. The girls complained it was too hot, but guys NEVER wear shorts like that, and heat is allegedly bad for our genitals.
It`s more of a safety issue if you can be raped without removing your clothes.
Complaining that the guys get to wear sexy muscle shirts showing off their arms is NOT a Sexual Health Safety issue.

Gang mentality, and tribalism isn`t just a black thing, think of any men`s club or secret society bs. Just a secure place to share your elitist, racist, sexist hate without ridicule from moral authority. Like the seperation of church, and state, is so politicians don`t have to answer to any moral authority. It`s not a racist or religion thing. The 10 commandments are more than just a ``good idea``. Any legitimate religion would agree that intentionally harming people is wrong.



Ka-Tra
That recent on camera, crowded beach rape is nothing new, but it does bring light to the issue, keep reporting shit so it doesn`t just get brushed off.

There`s more to being a man than hooping, and hollering, beating your chest, and fucking everything that moves or is unconcious.

Look up the SMU Rape chant or Y.O.U.N.G.
Vids show girls actively chanting, smiling, and going along with it like they were totally cool with it.

You wanna act like a bunch of stupid monkeys, and prove evolution right, that`s your problem.

``An eye for an eye`` is revenge after the fact...
``Do onto others, as you would have them do unto you``
is preventative forethought.

THINK about what you are doing!



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DG1OA
04/20/2015 02:06 PM (UTC)
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@OptimusGrime

Oh, I'm sorry I didn't treat colt's reply as the most intelligent one ever written. Nah, I'm not sorry.

@colt1107

I see you're just another partisan hack. Let me reassure you: both liberals and conservatives are stupid. Well, most libs and most cons.

And lol at you claiming to favor freedom. That's one thing about cons that amuse me, their little freedom-fighter act, them pretending to be against big government, though they still want it big enough to fit inside a woman's vagina. Of course, this freedom-fighter act is only the result of a "democratic" president being elected, a black one at that.

Besides, you want freedom for what exactly, to be the dumb bigots you were taught to be?

As for those links, let me guess: that's the kind of bullshit you'd find on Fox News, right?

@ Tetra_Vega

Yawn, you're another one of these pricks with sexual hang-ups (and unsurprisingly, you're religious). Going on about whorish sexuality, and how "slutty" girls who complain about getting sexually harrassed and so on should just shut up.

You're essentially saying that if a girl who wears "slutty" clothes gets raped, it's her fault, and not that of the loser rapists with no self-control. Funny, I'm a straight guy, and I don't lose my self-control when I'm near an attractive girl who's wearing supposedly slutty clothing.

Despite you being religious though, I must ask: are you a chauvinist, or a feminazi? They both tend to look down on "whorish" gals.

@Reptile_896

Lol.
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