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1.-MKO is a forum. Meant for the MK fans to discuss, debate, and propose their ideology around the MK game, our artistic creations, and our life itself. The best we understand these three points the best our ideas and understanding will be.
2.-What enriches our community is the users, As part of this community, we should be conscious that the forums are made for us, and most of the mods spend a lot of hours working on them. We must understand that the mods are neither machines, nor life-less beings that are dedicated 24/7 to the forum. The time they are at MKO, they spend trying to ensure we have a better forum. We must be grateful to them. As humans they tend to lose it sometimes, maybe loosing patience with users, but its just human nature to have flaws. Remember they are just like you...they have bad days and are not perfect. We must be patient with them as well.
3.- As you all probably know, the popularity of the MK franchise itself has brought, and will continue to bring more users to this forum. Our duty, as members of the forum, is to welcome new users. Its not our obligation nor in our nature to be instant friends with every single person that signs in, but we could at least make them feel at home.
4.- PLEASE REMEMBER: Our attitude towards new members will determine their future actions! The vets, or ppl that may have been here for a long time, are ppl that understand how the forum works, and may know a lot of people. But, sometimes, they (I use they as Im somehow new in here) forget they were once new in the forums. If you receive a newbie with a flame or an arrogant comment, they will respond in the same way. Think about it, why would you wanna care for, and be part of a site where you get your head chewed off and humiliated for simply asking a question? So what if you think it's a dumb question? People are not born with supreme knowledge. Wouldn't it be easier to simply give an answer and move on rather then be insulting and starting a flame war? If the answer can be found in the faq, then just POLITELY suggest that they look for their answer there. What's hard about that? Give them time to learn the ropes. Nobody stays new forever, sooner or later they will adjust and then find themselves answering questions for other new members. And not all of the noobs are bad.
5.- Some try to act cool or tough but they are just trying to be accepted, lets remember that one of the warmest feelings is that of being accepted.
6.- As for the new members: The best way to get through being labeled as n00b is to read the FAQ and respect others, remember not start something you won't be able to finish. You want to be respected? Then you must respect others. Take the advice given to you by the long time users of this site. They know how the site works. And, despite what you may read from time to time, many of them are very decent people who will help you if you don't make a fool of yourself or try to waste their time.
7.- Were free to curse, joke, post our ideas freely, but what I dont think we should do is diminish someone because any racial, intellectual, religious, political or sexual preference, it is stated in the FAQ. They are not hurting anyone, so why make nasty and hurtful comments about their personal lives? Or their backgrounds and views?
8.- If, In your opinion, a thread is stupid (Can't stress this enough): Dont reply to it! Starting a flame war is not the best way to change a someone's opinion or to correct someone who has fallen into a flaw. Thats why we have a PM system! Flame wars and SPAM wont make the other people stop thinking whatever they want to, or correcting his/her mistakes it will only generate more violence.
9.-Try to be kind with other peoples time and dont spam the forum or make repetitive threads. Thats one of the main reasons many of the vets dont post in the MK:D forum and they rather spend their time in the other forums.
10.- If you get into any trouble dont be afraid of asking any mod. Maybe they wont answer immediately, but they will answer. If you get flamed, dont answer back. Youll probably get skulled or banned, the best way to solve this is to tell a mod.
11.- Respect to oneself and to diversity is what makes a community more rich and more valuable.
These are my thoughts.
Thanx as always TT
Must we really have one of these threads every month? No offenece, but i think we all pretty much know this by now. It's all well and good to make a thread such as this, and for others to come and share their opinions in it. However how many people who say "we should be more tolerant" or "if you don't like a thread, don't respond" actually practice these things? Not many.
There was recently a thread like this (probably less than a month ago) where Temp said "show some tolerance, be a fucking leader". A few people (mainly ShadowSong) thought that was great, and we took it up as out "motton" and even placed it in our sigs. I realised just the other day that i wasn't showing much tolerance at all, but it was for a good reason. After realising this i removed the (still) inspirational quote from my sig and accepted the fact that tolerating new users is one thing, but we shouldn't have to tolerate retarded dickheads, and some users just need to be put in their place. In a perfect world we wouldn't have to, but unfortunately this isn't a perfect world, and if we don't fight the "war" then this place is just going to turn to shit.
Mk_FrEaK Wrote: 8.- If, In your opinion, a thread is stupid (Can't stress this enough): Dont reply to it! Starting a flame war is not the best way to change a someone's opinion or to correct someone who has fallen into a flaw. Thats why we have a PM system! Flame wars and SPAM wont make the other people stop thinking whatever they want to, or correcting his/her mistakes it will only generate more violence. |
If nobody tells a newbie that their thread is pointless, useless, or not allowed, then how will they know? This is a forum, and as such we're all intitled to share our opinions (within the rules, of course), regardless of whether we agree or not.
Obviously there's no need to start a flame war, but there's nothing wrong with telling the user that the thread is unnecessary or disallowed.
krackerjack Wrote: If nobody tells a newbie that their thread is pointless, useless, or not allowed, then how will they know? This is a forum, and as such we're all intitled to share our opinions (within the rules, of course), regardless of whether we agree or not. Obviously there's no need to start a flame war, but there's nothing wrong with telling the user that the thread is unnecessary or disallowed. |
This is very true. However, I think that point that FrEaK was getting at was: Do SOME (not all) users have to be so Rude, and sometimes, down right nasty in conveying this? Example: "This post does not belong in this forum. It belongs in General Discussion. Pleas be mindful of posting thread in the wrong forum." < Get's the message across right? As opposed to: (Only an example) What the fuck are you some kinda moron? Read where the fuck you're posting your threads! This doesn't belong here. Retard!
TomTaz Wrote: This is very true. However, I think that point that FrEaK was getting at was: Do SOME (not all) users have to be so Rude, and sometimes, down right nasty in conveying this? Example: "This post does not belong in this forum. It belongs in General Discussion. Pleas be mindful of posting thread in the wrong forum." |
People who respond to a thread with such pointless profanity and harshness (as indicated in your post) directed at another user, are most likley "n00b's" themselves, and don't know any better anyway. People like that rarely get the point, so asking them to stop is futile.

Why DO we have to have one of these topics every month.
TemperaryUserName Wrote: ...the best solution is set an example.
Show some tolerance. Be a fucking leader.
1337...there is no 1337 none of us can be 1337 because we are all the same, we are all human. The sooner we realize that, the better off we'll be.
krackerjack Wrote: However how many people who say "we should be more tolerant" or "if you don't like a thread, don't respond" actually practice these things? Not many. |
I do. I do every single day. I have to or I would have given up on my own life long ago. Without tolerance, I probably would not be alive today. Both if people were not tolerant of me, and I were not tolerant of them. The times that I have lost tolerance have lead to horrible episodes in my life that I wish I could have been smarter or more aware in. Offending or losing current or possible friends. When people were not tolerant of me, friends were once again lost, blindness to who I was set in.
Thus I live by tolerance, because I try my hardest to treat others the way I want to be treated. Sometimes, yes, it is true, you have to know when to quit. Of all of the times that I tried to tolerate certain past users of this site, and tried to make up or be friends again, I have gotten hurt several times when I did not know when to leave it alone.
It takes time and work both to make friends and to learn to tolerate others, but it is a worthy task.

Mk_FrEaK Wrote: Well i was thinking about the recent events in here, where every two seconds a flamme war pops, and after some thoughts and with the help of my friend TomTaz, i have come with this thoughts: 1.-MKO is a forum. Meant for the MK fans to discuss, debate, and propose their ideology around the MK game, our artistic creations, and our life itself. The best we understand these three points the best our ideas and understanding will be. 2.-What enriches our community is the users, As part of this community, we should be conscious that the forums are made for us, and most of the mods spend a lot of hours working on them. We must understand that the mods are neither machines, nor life-less beings that are dedicated 24/7 to the forum. The time they are at MKO, they spend trying to ensure we have a better forum. We must be grateful to them. As humans they tend to lose it sometimes, maybe loosing patience with users, but its just human nature to have flaws. Remember they are just like you...they have bad days and are not perfect. We must be patient with them as well. 3.- As you all probably know, the popularity of the MK franchise itself has brought, and will continue to bring more users to this forum. Our duty, as members of the forum, is to welcome new users. Its not our obligation nor in our nature to be instant friends with every single person that signs in, but we could at least make them feel at home. 4.- PLEASE REMEMBER: Our attitude towards new members will determine their future actions! The vets, or ppl that may have been here for a long time, are ppl that understand how the forum works, and may know a lot of people. But, sometimes, they (I use they as Im somehow new in here) forget they were once new in the forums. If you receive a newbie with a flame or an arrogant comment, they will respond in the same way. Think about it, why would you wanna care for, and be part of a site where you get your head chewed off and humiliated for simply asking a question? So what if you think it's a dumb question? People are not born with supreme knowledge. Wouldn't it be easier to simply give an answer and move on rather then be insulting and starting a flame war? If the answer can be found in the faq, then just POLITELY suggest that they look for their answer there. What's hard about that? Give them time to learn the ropes. Nobody stays new forever, sooner or later they will adjust and then find themselves answering questions for other new members. And not all of the noobs are bad. 5.- Some try to act cool or tough but they are just trying to be accepted, lets remember that one of the warmest feelings is that of being accepted. 6.- As for the new members: The best way to get through being labeled as n00b is to read the FAQ and respect others, remember not start something you won't be able to finish. You want to be respected? Then you must respect others. Take the advice given to you by the long time users of this site. They know how the site works. And, despite what you may read from time to time, many of them are very decent people who will help you if you don't make a fool of yourself or try to waste their time. 7.- Were free to curse, joke, post our ideas freely, but what I dont think we should do is diminish someone because any racial, intellectual, religious, political or sexual preference, it is stated in the FAQ. They are not hurting anyone, so why make nasty and hurtful comments about their personal lives? Or their backgrounds and views? 8.- If, In your opinion, a thread is stupid (Can't stress this enough): Dont reply to it! Starting a flame war is not the best way to change a someone's opinion or to correct someone who has fallen into a flaw. Thats why we have a PM system! Flame wars and SPAM wont make the other people stop thinking whatever they want to, or correcting his/her mistakes it will only generate more violence. 9.-Try to be kind with other peoples time and dont spam the forum or make repetitive threads. Thats one of the main reasons many of the vets dont post in the MK:D forum and they rather spend their time in the other forums. 10.- If you get into any trouble dont be afraid of asking any mod. Maybe they wont answer immediately, but they will answer. If you get flamed, dont answer back. Youll probably get skulled or banned, the best way to solve this is to tell a mod. 11.- Respect to oneself and to diversity is what makes a community more rich and more valuable. These are my thoughts. Thanx as always TT |
I agree with everything you said bro.
A new person should be treated with the same respect everyone else is treated with. If they ask a simple question that they didnt know, there is absolutely NO reason whatsoever to call them names, such as n00b. I sure wouldnt like it if i got called something when i'm new to a forum. That is why i would never call somebody anything disrespectful.
Everybody should be treated equally, whether your new or not.
TemperaryUserName Wrote: ...the best solution is set an example.
Show some tolerance. Be a fucking leader.
1337...there is no 1337 none of us can be 1337 because we are all the same, we are all human. The sooner we realize that, the better off we'll be.
Dark_No0B Wrote: I agree with everything you said bro. A new person should be treated with the same respect everyone else is treated with. If they ask a simple question that they didnt know, there is absolutely NO reason whatsoever to call them names, such as n00b. I sure wouldnt like it if i got called something when i'm new to a forum. That is why i would never call somebody anything disrespectful. Everybody should be treated equally, whether your new or not. |
Lol, but your name is Dark_No0b ;-P



Lol, but your name is Dark_No0b
Dark_No0b is a pimp and a half. And i for one agree with Mk_Freak and that dude we call TomTaz...vote for me, i am anti-flame war.
Maybe the advice should be to tok up before you come to the site on the best piece of hash your dollar can buy....then there will be mad crazy love.

Also back on topic:
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Pertaining to the actual event, if that Tekken 5 thread was made by anyone else, it wouldn't have been an issue. But Since Siduu101 had made previous less than stellar threads, everyone jumped on him and spammed his thread.
The thing is, the dude made a worthy thread to even my surprise and that should have been fine with everyone else. If the thread is bad or whatever, I'm gonna speak on it within the condindes of that particular thread. I'm not gonna carry it on to another totaly different thread. If someone makes a superfluous thread, then he/she should get called on it, but it shouldn't carry over to another thread that is cohierent and well thought out.
People just attaked him on a personal level and that shit wasn't cool. The fact that Raining_Smoke got 45 skulls in that thread is a perfect example of how people need to calm the hell down and not take things personally and not target people just for any reason. I guess he's thinking about that after the fact now!
It's simply not bloody worth it, but I know people are going to act like world class slappasses and eventually do something similar again. Unfourtunatly people only learn by getting banned. As if warnings and basic common sense aren't enough to tell someone when not to start stuff like that.
GD




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skeletonofsociety Wrote: But when someone comes here and tries to throw their wait around from day one, I'm not going to just sit and do nothing (especially with the amount of new members this site get per day). |
Perhaps taking a que from members who've been here a long time is what new people should do. And maybe some should at least go the extra mile to let them know through PM how to conduct themselves on the boards so they know.
GD
NovaStarr Wrote: Lol, but your name is Dark_No0b |
Heh, ye, but the word "No0B" is actually a slang term that my race uses to call one another "Brother". Its pretty cool.
Its not intended to be n00b as in "your a n00b". As if i would put such a word with that kind of meaning in my name.
Btw, thanks for the comments Thelonious-M and Cold Kombatant. You guys are awesome. Brothaz 4 Lyfe.


Are you good enough in MK stuff? prove it!
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It's not just new members though. Even the veterans are treated with disrespect in the same situations. Some people just like to target a certain few and spam their threads.
Everyone needs to be treated with the same respect as everyone else. It's a case of treating others as you want to be treated. If you want to flame, spam, or call people names etc, then go somewhere else. It's annoying having to tolerate all the bad things, but I do so and try to help out as much as I can.


I don't have much to say now, since pretty much everyone else said what i was gonna say
And i'm sorry for loosing control in another thread.


Are you good enough in MK stuff? prove it!
#mktrivia - IRC Channel Operator. Si entiendes esto, Chinga a tu madre!


Are you good enough in MK stuff? prove it!
#mktrivia - IRC Channel Operator. Si entiendes esto, Chinga a tu madre!
Slelica Wrote: don't waste time or forum space making these types of threads, no one will follow them. |
Thtat's your opinion and i respect it, but i can post whateer i can as long as i'm not offensive.