The Ron Paul Campaign in a nutshell.
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posted02/25/2012 11:44 PM (UTC)by
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMUtv1A9IVk

Prior to being introduced to Ron Paul, I was one of those people who had just given up on politics. However, I truly believe that this man is something special.

I just wanted to post up this speech and spread it a bit.

Keep it civil, but do take a look. Please.
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02/16/2012 08:47 PM (UTC)
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Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.


It will not change anything.
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02/16/2012 09:11 PM (UTC)
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As long as Mitt "Money" Romney does not succeed....


I support!


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(Erik)
02/16/2012 09:13 PM (UTC)
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I haven't watched this video yet, but I will never be supportive of a person with radical views like removing the Americans with Disabilities Act or the Civil Rights Act. I don't support building a fence along the border of Mexico, and I don't support taking away the rights for a woman to choose whether or not she wants to terminate a pregnancy. I don't support someone who wants to abolish the federal reserve and remove income taxes either. Oh, and I don't support someone who is against gay marriage.

I've got to say though, I think he is an intelligent dude and I like the way he speaks. I just can't support a politician with these sorts of goals.
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Espio872
02/16/2012 09:34 PM (UTC)
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I've been a Libertarian for years prior to learning about Ron Paul and I've been opposed to every single war we've engaged in for the last 40+ years.

Ron Paul has been saying nothing, but logical and common sense approaches to foreign policy and to domestic politics as well.

The federal government was never meant to be as powerful as it is now, for the most part organizations that originate from it protect special interests...for example the FDA allows food companies to get away with adding amonia to fast food meats because it's cheaper than using the quality cuts and we all know amonia can kill humans.


Our original military's intent was to exist only to protect ourselves and our national security.



I made a foolish mistake when I voted for Obama, he has proven himself to be nothing, but Bush's counterpart, masquerading as a promoter of change.


Ron Paul has my explicit support, the only Libertarian candidate who has a very viable chance of taking it.




Americans need to get in gear and stop worrying about how often their candidate goes to church, or how much they adore Israel and start worrying about whether this candidate is good for our country, I'm so tired of hearing people voting for people because they mention God a lot and don't like immigrants and other asinine shenanigans.

Wars of Aggression are illegal and they make a mockery of U.S. law, international law, the Nuremberg and Tokyo Tribunals, and they speak to a nation not motivated by peace, but a nation motivated by bloodlust, vengence, and hate.

I'm not a Christian, but as I recall, the bible talks about, "Vengence is mine, not yours" God speaking in reference to us as human beings.

We have politicians and people blessing people to go off to war, the powers that be have brain washed the public so badly that people bless the killing of people and prop up war.


I get called anti-American for these views often, but I love this country and I want us to realign ourselves in a peaceful and positive way once again. Power should only be used when it has to be and for no other reason.

I also like that Ron Paul drew parallels between the U.S. and other Empires, it's so spot on and he actually uses factual examples instead of using flowery political language and other shenanigans, he just offers verifiable and common knowledge examples of his points.

As for the torture policies, our democracy is dying because of them, we are complicit and the American people stood by and endorsed it.

Despite evidence from studies on interrogation tactics and them being ineffective in obtaining useful info.



Voting him into office isn't enough...Congress needs to undergo a complete change to follow this...Congress has authorized, condoned, promoted and instigated many of the wars and shady policies of Bush, Clinton, and Obama, it's time to vote out all 200+ of them.

I'm going to pool through my Congressional reps and find out how they voted on ever single war, policy that removed rights from citizens, and other Constitutional issues and I will NEVER vote for them again, it's time we actually get serious and realize that the president cannot do this alone, one just man cannot shut down 200+ corrupted men and women.




Chrome Wrote:
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.


It will not change anything.


Because pessimism has solved so many of the problems of the world right? Hope is what keeps the human spirit strong and innovative.


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Icebaby
02/16/2012 09:43 PM (UTC)
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Mitt and that old geyser are two nutcases who argues constantly about what the other one is doing. At least Ron Paul has a plan of action that I can see happening and isn't caring about what the other ones are.

But the majority of the votes are in the two idiots I don't want to see, I'd support Ron any day.
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02/16/2012 10:22 PM (UTC)
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I don't necessarily condone Ron Paul or his views but at least you have to admit that the guy is at the very least consistent on issues. He's not a flip flopper, he's not some slimey snake of a politician, he's someone that knows what he wants to do regardless of how popular it is.

...actually you know what? Ron Paul for fucking president. He can't be any worse than Obama or Romney.
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02/16/2012 10:24 PM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:
I haven't watched this video yet, but I will never be supportive of a person with radical views like removing the Americans with Disabilities Act or the Civil Rights Act. I don't support building a fence along the border of Mexico, and I don't support taking away the rights for a woman to choose whether or not she wants to terminate a pregnancy. I don't support someone who wants to abolish the federal reserve and remove income taxes either. Oh, and I don't support someone who is against gay marriage.

I've got to say though, I think he is an intelligent dude and I like the way he speaks. I just can't support a politician with these sorts of goals.


This.
I do agree with some of his other views, like occupation, torture, essentiall he's against the war economics, which i think is a huge plus.

I think Ron Paul needs to have Hillary Clinton's job. She really fucked all of the ppl who supported her.
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02/16/2012 11:14 PM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:
I don't support building a fence along the border of Mexico...I don't support someone who wants to abolish the federal reserve


Illegal immigrants get better benefits than some US citizens. The economy as bad as it is, and people looking for jobs, the last thing the US needs is illegals coming into this country and taking jobs from us. Most other country have a considerable tougher stance on people coming into their country illegally. The US is practically rewarding people for sneaking into the country.

I can also understand his view on wanting to do away with (or at least open up the transparency of) the Federal Reserve. Because there have been some accusations about the the federal reserve funding both sides of wars by giving loans to European and middle eastern central banks who have then funneled funds to terrorists. They where also completely miss managed the TARP bailout, and by them messing with inflation have actually de-valuded the dollar.

Some of his views I honestly don't agree with though. i think a total abandonment of regulation by the government on the corporate sector is a bad thing. He wants to repeal Sarbanes Oxley. Which was set up to create more stringent regulations on how corporations handle various aspects of their business and bookkeeping. It was set up after the Enron & Worldcom scan's because they where switching how they recorded various assets and liabilities on their books. Given Sarbanes Oxley goes too far in some respects by how much it actually cost corporations yearly to comply with the SOA, but I think a total repeal of the act is an absolutely bad idea.

Given none of the Republican candidates are very appealing but Ron Paul seems to be the best candidate IMO. Even if some of his views are out there. Unfortunately I don't think he's going to win because the news media have practically ignored him. I'm from MA and even I won't support Mitt Romney.
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02/17/2012 12:13 AM (UTC)
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Kabal20 Wrote:
Illegal immigrants get better benefits than some US citizens.


How so?
I keep hearing people saying this, but what benefits are we talking about?
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02/17/2012 12:28 AM (UTC)
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All of the Repub's are idiots.
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Get that ass BANNED

02/17/2012 12:29 AM (UTC)
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Bah, politics.
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02/17/2012 12:31 AM (UTC)
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Yay for not voting!
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02/17/2012 12:50 AM (UTC)
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I def. like Ron Paul better than any of the other GOP candidates-
maybe better than any they've had in *many* years.

Which means he has absolutely no chance of getting the nomination-
he's far too moderate for either of the main parties to get behind :-\

Oh well.
It's fun watching the Republicans fail and fumble like the Dems did in '04.
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Espio872
02/17/2012 01:01 AM (UTC)
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At least Ron Paul keeps it real and isn't a shady coward who talks a big game, yet is as fake as they come, I cannot say the same for either his Republican competition nor President Obama, he has lied and been just as aggressive as Bush, involvement in Libya, increasing troop numbers in Afghanistan (even though promising to step down operatons) and he's still trying really, really hard to go to war with Syria and Iran for some odd reason...change you can believe in...lololol.
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02/17/2012 01:05 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.


It will not change anything.



It also fuels motivation. It can help change things. Luck is the decisive factor.
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02/17/2012 04:22 AM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:
I haven't watched this video yet, but I will never be supportive of a person with radical views like removing the Americans with Disabilities Act or the Civil Rights Act. I don't support building a fence along the border of Mexico, and I don't support taking away the rights for a woman to choose whether or not she wants to terminate a pregnancy. I don't support someone who wants to abolish the federal reserve and remove income taxes either. Oh, and I don't support someone who is against gay marriage.

I've got to say though, I think he is an intelligent dude and I like the way he speaks. I just can't support a politician with these sorts of goals.


Paul is not against gay marriage, he wants to privatize it and make it up to the churches.
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02/17/2012 06:01 AM (UTC)
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Kamionero Wrote:
Kabal20 Wrote:
Illegal immigrants get better benefits than some US citizens.


How so?
I keep hearing people saying this, but what benefits are we talking about?


^This

Being of Mexican-American decent, and working in a school district that is 90% Latino (with about 50% of that 90% coming from immigrant families) I don't see how Mexican immigrants have more benefits than US citizens. The parents at the schools I work for are working three to four jobs, all getting paid BELOW minimum wage. None of the immigrant families have health insurance, so there's thousands of kids in our district who have serious health issues like major cavities and other illnesses that they can't afford to treat. Caucasian kids in my district never go to school sick, they stay home because they can afford to see a doctor and be treated. We've had immigrant children come to school with the flu, with pink-eye, with sky high fevers, all because the families cannot afford health insurance and a doctor visit without insurance is way out of their price range. These families all qualify for free lunch and free breakfast for their children at the schools since they fall below the poverty line. The immigrant children are also forced to test more frequently in our district than their English speaking counterparts, in order to try to get them to the same proficiency level in the language as their peers. These kids also drop out of school as soon as they hit 16 because they have to get a job to help their parents afford to live. The immigrant families here definitely don't have anywhere near the same benefits that I have. The parents are even afraid to have their kids miss school here because if a student misses too many days of school we are required to call the police to investigate. The immigrant children in my district have higher attendance rates in school than their Caucasian counterparts because the parents are too scared to let them miss school. Living without health insurance, being scared of the cops every second, forcing your children to drop out of school to help afford things, and working three jobs at once is definitely not something I want to do. I never understood this argument that immigrants get more than we do. In most states they're not even allowed a driver's license, which prevents them from doing a vast amount of stuff that we're allowed to do all the time. I have nothing against immigrants, but maybe because I'm bias, ellos son mi gente. My family's been in the US for like 5 generations now. However, my grandpa dropped out of school when he was in the 7th grade to help his parents out. He started doing odd jobs here and there as a handyman that built things for people. He then worked for the city electrical company while still working odd jobs on the side. He enlisted in the army back in the late 40s and was stationed in Germany for several years. He wanted to help out his country, and he did. My great grandparents and my grandparents always preferred speaking in Spanish rather than English. I'm the only person in my department who speaks Spanish. So, I can understand what it's like for the immigrant families, even though I personally don't face the same exact struggles as them.

As for Paul's other stances, I believe in a woman's right to choose and anyone who ever talks about it the other way will never get my support. Ron Paul is a smart man, definitely the smartest man in the primaries right now. However, I don't agree on enough things that he stands for to give him my support.
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02/17/2012 06:11 AM (UTC)
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ZeroSymbolic7188 Wrote:
Paul is not against gay marriage, he wants to privatize it and make it up to the churches.


Separation of Church and State exists for a reason. He doesn't believe in evolution. Yet another reason I can not support the guy.
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02/17/2012 06:16 AM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:
ZeroSymbolic7188 Wrote:
Paul is not against gay marriage, he wants to privatize it and make it up to the churches.


Separation of Church and State exists for a reason. He doesn't believe in evolution. Yet another reason I can not support the guy.

Ditto for me. I'm way too much of an atheist to support an idea that we were created in a way that cannot be scientifically proven (and evolution has been proven). It still shocks me that so many people doubt it though.
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RazorsEdge701
02/17/2012 02:32 PM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:
Separation of Church and State exists for a reason..


Way I heard it, Ron literally believes there is no such thing as Separation of Church and State in the Constitution. Like, he disagrees with the common interpretation of the First Amendment, and wants shit like prayer in schools.
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Espio872
02/17/2012 02:43 PM (UTC)
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Ron Paul said in an interview that he believes the government should be out of marriage, actually. Look on youtube, just type in Ron Paul on gay marriage. He's not a vehemenent supporters, but he appears to believe it should be out of the hands of government.
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ZeroSymbolic7188
02/17/2012 04:25 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
(Erik) Wrote:
Separation of Church and State exists for a reason..


Way I heard it, Ron literally believes there is no such thing as Separation of Church and State in the Constitution. Like, he disagrees with the common interpretation of the First Amendment, and wants shit like prayer in schools.


You heard wrong.

Paul is a libertarian, he basically believes the federal government should be very small, and that individual freedoms should be the most important thing.

It isn't that he wants mandatory prayer in schools, he just thinks if you want to pray, you should be able to. That sounds like freedom of religion to me, more so than saying you can't pray. (Actually you can pray in school right now. Just not a formal prayer, a teacher can not lead a prayer. You can totally pray though.)
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02/17/2012 04:39 PM (UTC)
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Siklootd Wrote:
(Erik) Wrote:
ZeroSymbolic7188 Wrote:
Paul is not against gay marriage, he wants to privatize it and make it up to the churches.


Separation of Church and State exists for a reason. He doesn't believe in evolution. Yet another reason I can not support the guy.

Ditto for me. I'm way too much of an atheist to support an idea that we were created in a way that cannot be scientifically proven (and evolution has been proven). It still shocks me that so many people doubt it though.


I'm not an atheist, but evolution does indeed exist.
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