Yahoo pulls plug on Al-Queda Message Board, more news
Yahoo pulls plug on Al-Queda Message Board, more news
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posted04/26/2004 09:44 AM (UTC)by
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As you all are aware, Osama Bin Laden came out with an audio tape calling for a truce with any country that is willing to pull out of the Middle East. Below is the full transcript, which I found interesting, because he says some things that you hear daily from anti-war activists. What I found interesting is his statements about Halliburton. Is it true that they benefit greatly from any war? YES it is. I'm just curious to see what you guys have to say about this one. Read on...
Credit - NEIN
15 April 2004 - Osama Bin Laden Audio Tape Translation-The following is a translation of the audio tape attributed to Osama Bin Laden which was aired this morning on two Arabic language television channels, Al Arabeya and Al Jazeera. Translation courtesy the BBC.
Praise be to Almighty God; Peace and prayers be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and companions.
This is a message to our neighbours north of the Mediterranean, containing a reconciliation initiative as a response to their positive reactions.
Praise be to God; praise be to God; praise be to God who created heaven and earth with justice and who allowed the oppressed to punish the oppressor in the same way.
Peace upon those who followed the right path:
In my hands there is a message to remind you that justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them.
The greatest rule of safety is justice, and stopping injustice and aggression. It was said: Oppression kills the oppressors and the hotbed of injustice is evil. The situation in occupied Palestine is an example. What happened on 11 September [2001] and 11 March [the Madrid train bombings] is your commodity that was returned to you.
It is known that security is a pressing necessity for all mankind. We do not agree that you should monopolise it only for yourselves. Also, vigilant people do not allow their politicians to tamper with their security.
Having said this, we would like to inform you that labelling us and our acts as terrorism is also a description of you and of your acts. Reaction comes at the same level as the original action. Our acts are reaction to your own acts, which are represented by the destruction and killing of our kinfolk in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine.
The act that horrified the world; that is, the killing of the old, handicapped [Hamas spiritual leader] Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, may God have mercy on him, is sufficient evidence.
We pledge to God that we will punish America for him, God willing.
Which religion considers your killed ones innocent and our killed ones worthless? And which principle considers your blood real blood and our blood water? Reciprocal treatment is fair and the one who starts injustice bears greater blame.
As for your politicians and those who have followed their path, who insist on ignoring the real problem of occupying the entirety of Palestine and exaggerate lies and falsification regarding our right in defense and resistance, they do not respect themselves.
They also disdain the blood and minds of peoples. This is because their falsification increases the shedding of your blood instead of sparing it.
Moreover, the examining of the developments that have been taking place, in terms of killings in our countries and your countries, will make clear an important fact; namely, that injustice is inflicted on us and on you by your politicians, who send your sons - although you are opposed to this - to our countries to kill and be killed.
Therefore, it is in both sides' interest to curb the plans of those who shed the blood of peoples for their narrow personal interest and subservience to the White House gang.
The Zionist lobby is one of the most dangerous and most difficult figures of this group. God willing, we are determined to fight them.
We must take into consideration that this war brings billions of dollars in profit to the major companies, whether it be those that produce weapons or those that contribute to reconstruction, such as the Halliburton Company, its sisters and daughters.
Based on this, it is very clear who is the one benefiting from igniting this war and from the shedding of blood. It is the warlords, the bloodsuckers, who are steering the world policy from behind a curtain.
As for President Bush, the leaders who are revolving in his orbit, the leading media companies and the United Nations, which makes laws for relations between the masters of veto and the slaves of the General Assembly, these are only some of the tools used to deceive and exploit peoples.
All these pose a fatal threat to the whole world.
The Zionist lobby is one of the most dangerous and most difficult figures of this group. God willing, we are determined to fight them.
Based on the above, and in order to deny war merchants a chance and in response to the positive interaction shown by recent events and opinion polls, which indicate that most European peoples want peace, I ask honest people, especially ulema, preachers and merchants, to form a permanent committee to enlighten European peoples of the justice of our causes, above all Palestine. They can make use of the huge potential of the media.
The door of reconciliation is open for three months of the date of announcing this statement.
I also offer a reconciliation initiative to them, whose essence is our commitment to stopping operations against every country that commits itself to not attacking Muslims or interfering in their affairs - including the US conspiracy on the greater Muslim world.
This reconciliation can be renewed once the period signed by the first government expires and a second government is formed with the consent of both parties.
The reconciliation will start with the departure of its last soldier from our country.
The door of reconciliation is open for three months of the date of announcing this statement.
For those who reject reconciliation and want war, we are ready.
As for those who want reconciliation, we have given them a chance. Stop shedding our blood so as to preserve your blood. It is in your hands to apply this easy, yet difficult, formula. You know that the situation will expand and increase if you delay things.
If this happens, do not blame us - blame yourselves.
A rational person does not relinquish his security, money and children to please the liar of the White House.
Had he been truthful about his claim for peace, he would not describe the person who ripped open pregnant women in Sabra and Shatila [reference to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon] and the destroyer of the capitulation process [reference to the Palestinian-Israeli peace process] as a man of peace.
Reality proves our truthfulness and his [George Bush's] lie.
He also would not have lied to people and said that we hate freedom and kill for the sake of killing. Reality proves our truthfulness and his lie.
The killing of the Russians was after their invasion of Afghanistan and Chechnya; the killing of Europeans was after their invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan; and the killing of Americans on the day of New York [reference to 11 September] was after their support of the Jews in Palestine and their invasion of the Arabian Peninsula.
Also, killing them in Somalia was after their invasion of it in Operation Restore Hope. We made them leave without hope, praise be to God.
It is said that prevention is better than cure. A happy person is he who learns a lesson from the experience of others.
Heeding right is better than persisting in falsehood.
Peace be upon those who follow guidance.
Also, American companies support terrorism without knowing it??
US Advertisers Unwittingly Support Terrorism?
The image was jolting: within the posting from the jihadi message was a photograph of a charred American corpse hanging upside down from a bridge over the Euphrates. But as disturbing as the image was, it was the sponsor of the page displaying the image that caused me the greatest concern. Right there on the screen beside the desecrated body of the American was an advertisement for the J.C. Penney Customer Appreciation Sale!Although I dont know the person who was killed, and have no knowledge of his personal habits, I would not be surprised at all to discover that this poor, dead American had been one of J.C. Penneys customers. In fact, Id be surprised if he wasnt. Most of us have at one time or other shopped at one of their stores. So, to see a company that is "as American as apple pie" sponsoring the enemies of our country is more than a little disconcerting.
This article is not an indictment against J.C. Penney. In fact, I am quite doubtful that J.C. Penney even knows they are sponsoring terrorist communications. (Their first indication will probably be the calls that this article generates.) In fact, refreshing the page will bring you any number of ads from companies that you probably do business with including Equifax, Purina, and Verizon. (One particularly gruesome screen refresh brought the photo described above beside an ad for Purina dog food.)
All of these companies almost certainly would be astonished to learn that they are supporting terrorism. But they are in fact helping provide Al Qaeda with the ability to communicate and plan attacks over the internet. They are virtually providing Al Qaeda with the Internet infrastructure to maintain their command and control over the various terror cells.
And they have no clue that they are doing so. They appear to be buying "run-of-the-site" ads on Yahoo groups, and the ads are being randomly placed into these messages. It is important to understand that these companies are not intentionally supporting terrorism but it is happening all the same.
The Madrid bombing of March 11, 2004, is a key example of a terrorist action that was discussed in depth on the internet prior to the actual event, on an American server, and sponsored by American companies.
The "official" means of communication for Al Qaeda, and the location of one key discussion on the Madrid plans in December 2003, is a group on Yahoogroups.com titled Global Islamic Media (GIM). GIM had over 7,400 members at the time this article was written, and the Al Qaeda echelon appears to use this group to communicate with members throughout the world.
Postings are made on a regular basis from an IP address in Ottawa, Canada. Most days there are anywhere from one to five postings, although occasionally two or three days will go by with no posts on GIM.
Al Qaeda online publications such as Voice of Jihad and the infamous al Qaeda training manual Al Battar are announced via GIM on Yahoogroups.com, as are regular updates on the progress of the jihad on the various war fronts. After attacks occur, messages taking credit for the attack are commonly posted here as well.
Whenever a new statement of importance to the jihadis is released, such as one from Osama Bin Laden, Ayman Zawahiri, or Abu Musad al Zarqawi, an announcement usually occurs on this forum. Statements by lesser clerics and morale boosting messages, as well as press releases, are posted here on a regular basis as well.
The group is so well established that Al Qaeda has informed its followers to disregard any information released on the internet that is not confirmed through Global Islamic Media on Yahoogroups.com.
Global Islamic Media is just one of many Yahoogroups that are used to promote and support terrorism by Islamic groups. The Ezzedine Qassem Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, has its own Yahoo group called "Qassem" which is used to promote the goals of that organization. Other groups include Call19 (named after the 19 hijackers of September 11), and the group run by Daleel Mojahid called Daleel_Almojahid_1.
But the terrorists dont just use the groups and free websites at Yahoo.
They also make extensive use of the free web-based email services available through Yahoo and competitor Hotmail.com (owned by Microsoft). Analysts at the Northeast Intelligence Network have uncovered a surprising array of email addresses on American servers, belonging to known terrorists, ranging from low level operatives of dubious authenticity such as Daleel and Terrorist 007, to those who are known to be well placed in the Al Qaeda hierarchy such as Abu Osama Al Otaibi and the Jihad Falcon.
Within the past few days, one of our analysts received an email from Abu Musad al Zarqawi, who used his Hotmail account to communicate. A quick check of the IP address showed that Zarqawi was dialing in to the internet through an IP address assigned to the Telephone Company of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Most of the terrorists have email addresses on either Hotmail.com or Yahoo.com, and are quite open about posting these email addresses publicly. They even answer these emails, apparently without any concern over being intercepted.
A quick check of the IP addresses shows that these terrorists log in from all over the world. Many log in directly from the Middle East, most often Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the Palestinian territories, Iran, and Egypt. A surprising number log in from Germany, the U.K., the Netherlands, Canada, and even the United States.
While some of these may be proxy servers, many of them in fact reflect dial-up accounts and internet cafes in the various countries. These freemail providers, selected because of the anonymity that a throwaway email account provides, are advertiser supported by AMERICAN advertisers.
It is not unusual to see an ad for a major US retailer sponsoring an email that calls for violence against the US. Sometimes it is cause for amusement; an email with a picture of an Iraqi teenaged insurgent and a Rocket Propelled Grenade Launcher prominently featured an advertisement for an internet pharmacy selling Cialis, a competitor to Viagra. An email arrived earlier today through Yahoo mail promoting violence to Americans that was prominently sponsored by Equifax.
The use of these services by Al Qaeda and its followers appears to be the worst kept secret in the world these days. The fact that the email addresses, and the Yahoogroups used by Al Qaeda operatives continue to function despite the fact that they are in clear violation not only of the Terms of Service, but also of federal law, is something that is called into question on a regular basis.
Various theories abound. The FBI/CIA/Interpol/ (insert your anti terror agency here) is watching and monitoring these groups and people seems to be the most popular. Yet in the meantime, the groups continue to function, and provide communications essential for Al Qaeda leaders to maintain command and control of the various terror cells.
Al Qaedas online training manual, Al Battar, is quite clear about this. It explicitly instructs its readers on how to obtain throwaway email addresses, and how to maintain operational and personal security while communicating on the internet. There is no question after reading these publications that the internet plays a key role in the planning and execution of terror attacks throughout the world.
In the meantime, stockholders of major corporations, and consumers who use the products of these corporations, may wish to consider asking some tough questions, such as: Are you with us or against us? Why are your advertising dollars used to facilitate terrorism?
Well not sure what to expect or ask from anyone who read this other then gimmie ur thought on both these issues..
Credit - NEIN
15 April 2004 - Osama Bin Laden Audio Tape Translation-The following is a translation of the audio tape attributed to Osama Bin Laden which was aired this morning on two Arabic language television channels, Al Arabeya and Al Jazeera. Translation courtesy the BBC.
Praise be to Almighty God; Peace and prayers be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and companions.
This is a message to our neighbours north of the Mediterranean, containing a reconciliation initiative as a response to their positive reactions.
Praise be to God; praise be to God; praise be to God who created heaven and earth with justice and who allowed the oppressed to punish the oppressor in the same way.
Peace upon those who followed the right path:
In my hands there is a message to remind you that justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them.
The greatest rule of safety is justice, and stopping injustice and aggression. It was said: Oppression kills the oppressors and the hotbed of injustice is evil. The situation in occupied Palestine is an example. What happened on 11 September [2001] and 11 March [the Madrid train bombings] is your commodity that was returned to you.
It is known that security is a pressing necessity for all mankind. We do not agree that you should monopolise it only for yourselves. Also, vigilant people do not allow their politicians to tamper with their security.
Having said this, we would like to inform you that labelling us and our acts as terrorism is also a description of you and of your acts. Reaction comes at the same level as the original action. Our acts are reaction to your own acts, which are represented by the destruction and killing of our kinfolk in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine.
The act that horrified the world; that is, the killing of the old, handicapped [Hamas spiritual leader] Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, may God have mercy on him, is sufficient evidence.
We pledge to God that we will punish America for him, God willing.
Which religion considers your killed ones innocent and our killed ones worthless? And which principle considers your blood real blood and our blood water? Reciprocal treatment is fair and the one who starts injustice bears greater blame.
As for your politicians and those who have followed their path, who insist on ignoring the real problem of occupying the entirety of Palestine and exaggerate lies and falsification regarding our right in defense and resistance, they do not respect themselves.
They also disdain the blood and minds of peoples. This is because their falsification increases the shedding of your blood instead of sparing it.
Moreover, the examining of the developments that have been taking place, in terms of killings in our countries and your countries, will make clear an important fact; namely, that injustice is inflicted on us and on you by your politicians, who send your sons - although you are opposed to this - to our countries to kill and be killed.
Therefore, it is in both sides' interest to curb the plans of those who shed the blood of peoples for their narrow personal interest and subservience to the White House gang.
The Zionist lobby is one of the most dangerous and most difficult figures of this group. God willing, we are determined to fight them.
We must take into consideration that this war brings billions of dollars in profit to the major companies, whether it be those that produce weapons or those that contribute to reconstruction, such as the Halliburton Company, its sisters and daughters.
Based on this, it is very clear who is the one benefiting from igniting this war and from the shedding of blood. It is the warlords, the bloodsuckers, who are steering the world policy from behind a curtain.
As for President Bush, the leaders who are revolving in his orbit, the leading media companies and the United Nations, which makes laws for relations between the masters of veto and the slaves of the General Assembly, these are only some of the tools used to deceive and exploit peoples.
All these pose a fatal threat to the whole world.
The Zionist lobby is one of the most dangerous and most difficult figures of this group. God willing, we are determined to fight them.
Based on the above, and in order to deny war merchants a chance and in response to the positive interaction shown by recent events and opinion polls, which indicate that most European peoples want peace, I ask honest people, especially ulema, preachers and merchants, to form a permanent committee to enlighten European peoples of the justice of our causes, above all Palestine. They can make use of the huge potential of the media.
The door of reconciliation is open for three months of the date of announcing this statement.
I also offer a reconciliation initiative to them, whose essence is our commitment to stopping operations against every country that commits itself to not attacking Muslims or interfering in their affairs - including the US conspiracy on the greater Muslim world.
This reconciliation can be renewed once the period signed by the first government expires and a second government is formed with the consent of both parties.
The reconciliation will start with the departure of its last soldier from our country.
The door of reconciliation is open for three months of the date of announcing this statement.
For those who reject reconciliation and want war, we are ready.
As for those who want reconciliation, we have given them a chance. Stop shedding our blood so as to preserve your blood. It is in your hands to apply this easy, yet difficult, formula. You know that the situation will expand and increase if you delay things.
If this happens, do not blame us - blame yourselves.
A rational person does not relinquish his security, money and children to please the liar of the White House.
Had he been truthful about his claim for peace, he would not describe the person who ripped open pregnant women in Sabra and Shatila [reference to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon] and the destroyer of the capitulation process [reference to the Palestinian-Israeli peace process] as a man of peace.
Reality proves our truthfulness and his [George Bush's] lie.
He also would not have lied to people and said that we hate freedom and kill for the sake of killing. Reality proves our truthfulness and his lie.
The killing of the Russians was after their invasion of Afghanistan and Chechnya; the killing of Europeans was after their invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan; and the killing of Americans on the day of New York [reference to 11 September] was after their support of the Jews in Palestine and their invasion of the Arabian Peninsula.
Also, killing them in Somalia was after their invasion of it in Operation Restore Hope. We made them leave without hope, praise be to God.
It is said that prevention is better than cure. A happy person is he who learns a lesson from the experience of others.
Heeding right is better than persisting in falsehood.
Peace be upon those who follow guidance.
Also, American companies support terrorism without knowing it??
US Advertisers Unwittingly Support Terrorism?
The image was jolting: within the posting from the jihadi message was a photograph of a charred American corpse hanging upside down from a bridge over the Euphrates. But as disturbing as the image was, it was the sponsor of the page displaying the image that caused me the greatest concern. Right there on the screen beside the desecrated body of the American was an advertisement for the J.C. Penney Customer Appreciation Sale!Although I dont know the person who was killed, and have no knowledge of his personal habits, I would not be surprised at all to discover that this poor, dead American had been one of J.C. Penneys customers. In fact, Id be surprised if he wasnt. Most of us have at one time or other shopped at one of their stores. So, to see a company that is "as American as apple pie" sponsoring the enemies of our country is more than a little disconcerting.
This article is not an indictment against J.C. Penney. In fact, I am quite doubtful that J.C. Penney even knows they are sponsoring terrorist communications. (Their first indication will probably be the calls that this article generates.) In fact, refreshing the page will bring you any number of ads from companies that you probably do business with including Equifax, Purina, and Verizon. (One particularly gruesome screen refresh brought the photo described above beside an ad for Purina dog food.)
All of these companies almost certainly would be astonished to learn that they are supporting terrorism. But they are in fact helping provide Al Qaeda with the ability to communicate and plan attacks over the internet. They are virtually providing Al Qaeda with the Internet infrastructure to maintain their command and control over the various terror cells.
And they have no clue that they are doing so. They appear to be buying "run-of-the-site" ads on Yahoo groups, and the ads are being randomly placed into these messages. It is important to understand that these companies are not intentionally supporting terrorism but it is happening all the same.
The Madrid bombing of March 11, 2004, is a key example of a terrorist action that was discussed in depth on the internet prior to the actual event, on an American server, and sponsored by American companies.
The "official" means of communication for Al Qaeda, and the location of one key discussion on the Madrid plans in December 2003, is a group on Yahoogroups.com titled Global Islamic Media (GIM). GIM had over 7,400 members at the time this article was written, and the Al Qaeda echelon appears to use this group to communicate with members throughout the world.
Postings are made on a regular basis from an IP address in Ottawa, Canada. Most days there are anywhere from one to five postings, although occasionally two or three days will go by with no posts on GIM.
Al Qaeda online publications such as Voice of Jihad and the infamous al Qaeda training manual Al Battar are announced via GIM on Yahoogroups.com, as are regular updates on the progress of the jihad on the various war fronts. After attacks occur, messages taking credit for the attack are commonly posted here as well.
Whenever a new statement of importance to the jihadis is released, such as one from Osama Bin Laden, Ayman Zawahiri, or Abu Musad al Zarqawi, an announcement usually occurs on this forum. Statements by lesser clerics and morale boosting messages, as well as press releases, are posted here on a regular basis as well.
The group is so well established that Al Qaeda has informed its followers to disregard any information released on the internet that is not confirmed through Global Islamic Media on Yahoogroups.com.
Global Islamic Media is just one of many Yahoogroups that are used to promote and support terrorism by Islamic groups. The Ezzedine Qassem Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, has its own Yahoo group called "Qassem" which is used to promote the goals of that organization. Other groups include Call19 (named after the 19 hijackers of September 11), and the group run by Daleel Mojahid called Daleel_Almojahid_1.
But the terrorists dont just use the groups and free websites at Yahoo.
They also make extensive use of the free web-based email services available through Yahoo and competitor Hotmail.com (owned by Microsoft). Analysts at the Northeast Intelligence Network have uncovered a surprising array of email addresses on American servers, belonging to known terrorists, ranging from low level operatives of dubious authenticity such as Daleel and Terrorist 007, to those who are known to be well placed in the Al Qaeda hierarchy such as Abu Osama Al Otaibi and the Jihad Falcon.
Within the past few days, one of our analysts received an email from Abu Musad al Zarqawi, who used his Hotmail account to communicate. A quick check of the IP address showed that Zarqawi was dialing in to the internet through an IP address assigned to the Telephone Company of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Most of the terrorists have email addresses on either Hotmail.com or Yahoo.com, and are quite open about posting these email addresses publicly. They even answer these emails, apparently without any concern over being intercepted.
A quick check of the IP addresses shows that these terrorists log in from all over the world. Many log in directly from the Middle East, most often Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the Palestinian territories, Iran, and Egypt. A surprising number log in from Germany, the U.K., the Netherlands, Canada, and even the United States.
While some of these may be proxy servers, many of them in fact reflect dial-up accounts and internet cafes in the various countries. These freemail providers, selected because of the anonymity that a throwaway email account provides, are advertiser supported by AMERICAN advertisers.
It is not unusual to see an ad for a major US retailer sponsoring an email that calls for violence against the US. Sometimes it is cause for amusement; an email with a picture of an Iraqi teenaged insurgent and a Rocket Propelled Grenade Launcher prominently featured an advertisement for an internet pharmacy selling Cialis, a competitor to Viagra. An email arrived earlier today through Yahoo mail promoting violence to Americans that was prominently sponsored by Equifax.
The use of these services by Al Qaeda and its followers appears to be the worst kept secret in the world these days. The fact that the email addresses, and the Yahoogroups used by Al Qaeda operatives continue to function despite the fact that they are in clear violation not only of the Terms of Service, but also of federal law, is something that is called into question on a regular basis.
Various theories abound. The FBI/CIA/Interpol/ (insert your anti terror agency here) is watching and monitoring these groups and people seems to be the most popular. Yet in the meantime, the groups continue to function, and provide communications essential for Al Qaeda leaders to maintain command and control of the various terror cells.
Al Qaedas online training manual, Al Battar, is quite clear about this. It explicitly instructs its readers on how to obtain throwaway email addresses, and how to maintain operational and personal security while communicating on the internet. There is no question after reading these publications that the internet plays a key role in the planning and execution of terror attacks throughout the world.
In the meantime, stockholders of major corporations, and consumers who use the products of these corporations, may wish to consider asking some tough questions, such as: Are you with us or against us? Why are your advertising dollars used to facilitate terrorism?
Well not sure what to expect or ask from anyone who read this other then gimmie ur thought on both these issues..
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