Bale And Nolan To Return In Justice League?
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posted03/08/2013 09:18 PM (UTC)by
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RazorsEdge701
03/04/2013 05:33 AM (UTC)
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Only if you liked Rises.
And can figure out a way for Bale's Bruce to go back to Gotham, where he's been declared legally dead for the second time in a decade, and take the cave and suit back from John Blake without looking like a jerk or making his secret ID blatantly obvious...while his house upstairs is now a very populated orphanage, and hey, didn't he and Wayne Enterprises go broke?
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03/04/2013 05:48 AM (UTC)
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The guy who "leaked" this, while he has been right on occasion, has been wrong as well. I just can't believe Nolan would have Bale return, if he really does choose to shepherd a DC Movie-verse.

Expect Nolan to release a statement denying all of this. At the very least, Bale's connection to it.

I've just been burned on too many "believable leaks" to take this seriously.
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03/04/2013 05:51 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Only if you liked Rises.

And can figure out a way for Bale's Bruce to go back to Gotham, where he's been declared legally dead for the second time in a decade, and take the cave and suit back from John Blake without looking like a jerk or making his secret ID blatantly obvious...while his house upstairs is now a very populated orphanage, and hey, didn't he and Wayne Enterprises go broke?


Loved it, saw it in Imax twice, and a third time in a regular theatre.

Who cares if it doesn't make perfect sense. Bale/Nolan make for an awesome Batman team. If there's a will, there's a way. Get goyer and the Nolans to write it, Chris Nolan to produce, and Snyder to direct using Cavill as Superman from Man of Steel...that's going to be far better than any other option I can think of.

Doesn't have to synch up perfectly with a nice bow on top in order to be a great movie, showing off how awesome the Justice League is. Starting off frome one of the better trilogies of all time, and what looks to be a great movie this summer, using actors that can deliver in their roles, and a producer/director/writing team that has proven success...is better than starting from scratch with an all new cast and all new director/writers/producers etc.

Point being: Stick with what has been proven successful. If Man of Steel gets great reviews and rakes in the money, they should dump all that on Bale/Nolan/Snyder/Goyer/Cavill to make this thing happen, and then Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman etc. can take off from there.
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03/04/2013 05:52 AM (UTC)
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No, no, God no. Keep Nolan's Batman away from JL Batman. It wouldn't make sense for Superman to exist in Nolan's Batman universe
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03/04/2013 06:14 AM (UTC)
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This is good news, so long as Ryan Reynolds is not Green Lantern!
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03/04/2013 06:25 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
No, no, God no. Keep Nolan's Batman away from JL Batman. It wouldn't make sense for Superman to exist in Nolan's Batman universe


Why?

Because TDK trilogy was more "realistic"?

The term “realism” is often confusing and used sort of arbitrarily. I
suppose “relatable” is the word I would use. I wanted a world that was
realistically portrayed, in that even though outlandish events may be
taking place, and this extraordinary figure may be walking around these
streets, the streets would have the same weight and validity of the
streets in any other action movie. So they’d be relatable in that way.
-Christopher Nolan

Just becase he kept the trilogy a bit more grounded and relatable, doesn't mean it can't include Superman and the like in the JLA movie. If you read the comics and watched the animated series etc. You would notice that solo Batman stories are usually more relatable and grounded in reality. Yet, when it's him teaming with the Justice League, that's when the super powers and life forms beyond earth come into play. My point being, it is possible to make it work. I think the interactions alone, given the contrast in what Batman is used to, would be amazing.

Give Batman enhanced tech. and armor, and let him do his thing.

Even though(if I remember right), the bomb that goes off in TDKR doesn't emit radiation, it could be written that the radiation is the reason for all the more supernatural monsters come to fruition(Killer Croc, he is actually a human with a disease). Then use the Man of Steal as the gateway to explain the more extratorestrial stuff, starting with his rise as Superman.

So yeah, I get where you are coming from, but it COULD work.
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03/04/2013 06:56 AM (UTC)
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I think they should use Green Arrow instead... They're pretty similar save for their major theme (Archery vs. Bats). It wouldn't have to involve a bunch of retconning either.
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03/04/2013 08:29 AM (UTC)
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Jironobou Wrote:
I think they should use Green Arrow instead... They're pretty similar save for their major theme (Archery vs. Bats). It wouldn't have to involve a bunch of retconning either.


You can't have the Justice League without Batman.

Even in the comics, whenever they do a roster shakeup and he's not around, you can be pretty certain you're in for a shitty filler run you should just skip until the creative team changes.

You generally have to have the rest of the Trinity, a Flash, and a GL as well...but there is one exception: the Blue Beetle & Booster Gold years didn't have Clark, Diana, or a Flash on the team and turned out good.

Aaaanyway...if they really are going to go ahead with plans to build a DC movie universe, Personally, I've always felt it'd be better to do a "World's Finest" (Superman/Batman team-up) film first. That way, not only can you give the relationship between the DCU's two biggest heroes due time to develop for the audience, but you can also get it out of the way so the other team members can get more screentime in the JL flick.
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03/04/2013 08:41 AM (UTC)
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Unless its Bale playing a different "universes'" Batman. Only exactly the same way as in the Nolan Trilogy.

I just cant see it to be honest.

The rumour that they will reboot the Batman movie franchise sounds more plausible to me.
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03/04/2013 09:19 AM (UTC)
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Well you can't have Bale playing the character AND say "different universe, different Batman", no audience in the world will believe or understand it's a reboot if the actor is the same.

Hell, sometimes they don't get it even when you do change everything. There are still a ton of people who think Ed Norton's Hulk was a sequel to the Eric Bana one just because Norton's starts in South America. Even though they show you his whole origin in the opening credits and it's completely different from the Bana movie.
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03/04/2013 12:34 PM (UTC)
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Doubt it, Nolan looks at the the aspects of the comics he considers "less believable" almost condescendingly.
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03/04/2013 06:48 PM (UTC)
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Ugh I hope not. He had a super good run, I think it's best he move onto other things after Rises.
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03/05/2013 12:50 AM (UTC)
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Sounds good to me. WB better do something if they plan to compete with The Avengers numbers.
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03/05/2013 01:20 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, no thanks.
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03/05/2013 01:45 AM (UTC)
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Uhhh... this is an awful idea, IMO.

Nolan's Batman has made it a point to stay as grounded in reality as possible. The Justice League is NOT a good candidate for that approach.

They just need to take a fuckin' cue from Marvel. Create dedicated movies to establish all their primary characters that are all part of the same continuity. Use "Man of Steel" as the kick starter for this, and follow suit with movies for Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern. Once all those characters have been properly introduced and built upon, THEN release a Justice League movie that introduces Martian Manhunter! Trying to introduce 4 major characters in one movie is just going to be a mess.

They could also follow suit with the naming scheme of the upcoming Superman movie.

Superman = The Man of Steel
Batman = The Caped Crusader
Wonder Woman = The Mightiest Amazon
Flash = The Fastest Man Alive
Green Lantern = The Emerald Guardian
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03/05/2013 01:52 AM (UTC)
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raidenthefridge Wrote:
Doubt it, Nolan looks at the the aspects of the comics he considers "less believable" almost condescendingly.

One of his primary frames of reference has always been the Richard Donner Superman. The 'reality' of the material isn't the issue. Which is why this entire circumstance is predicated on a reprisal of what he's already quite happily doing with The Man of Steel. Which is a natural introduction of an element that is a contrast to Batman, regardless of your source. As if you even need to smooth it over after the invitation to absurdity that was Rises.

Will it happen? Who knows. There's certainly no good reason it cannot.
i will not get myself hyped until wb officially announces it

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03/05/2013 05:27 PM (UTC)
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I read this on Monday morning and got really excited. Honestly, I had zero interest in JLA until I read this. I really hope it's true.
IMO It makes perfect sense. Bale's Batman could be what Downey Jr.'s Ironman is to Avengers. Why would you want a younger Batman for JLA? Some people say that Nolan's Batman is such in a realistic world that would not go right with Superman. Part of that is true, but that could be the whole dynamic of why they could work well together. The Man of Steel movie already has that Dark Knight feel to it, no doubt. Bale's reaction to seeing Superman for this first time could leave us in awe!
I would almost like to watch a scene of Superman saving Batman at the end of Dark Knight Rises. This could clear up the ending of that movie a little better, and also force Superman to unintentionally introduce himself to Batman. Maybe he could detect the bomb going out to sea and hoped to stop it, or he just finally decided to help Gotham.
Either way if Nolan and Bale are in, I'm interested. If not, maybe JLA should be put to rest for another 20 years ;)
evilekim Wrote:
I read this on Monday morning and got really excited. Honestly, I had zero interest in JLA until I read this. I really hope it's true.
IMO It makes perfect sense. Bale's Batman could be what Downey Jr.'s Ironman is to Avengers. Why would you want a younger Batman for JLA? Some people say that Nolan's Batman is such in a realistic world that would not go right with Superman. Part of that is true, but that could be the whole dynamic of why they could work well together. The Man of Steel movie already has that Dark Knight feel to it, no doubt. Bale's reaction to seeing Superman for this first time could leave us in awe!
I would almost like to watch a scene of Superman saving Batman at the end of Dark Knight Rises. This could clear up the ending of that movie a little better, and also force Superman to unintentionally introduce himself to Batman. Maybe he could detect the bomb going out to sea and hoped to stop it, or he just finally decided to help Gotham.
Either way if Nolan and Bale are in, I'm interested. If not, maybe JLA should be put to rest for another 20 years ;)



well dont get to hyped because i did for the gl movie and it sucked more than paris hilton
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03/05/2013 07:06 PM (UTC)
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evilekim Wrote:
I read this on Monday morning and got really excited. Honestly, I had zero interest in JLA until I read this. I really hope it's true.
IMO It makes perfect sense. Bale's Batman could be what Downey Jr.'s Ironman is to Avengers. Why would you want a younger Batman for JLA? Some people say that Nolan's Batman is such in a realistic world that would not go right with Superman. Part of that is true, but that could be the whole dynamic of why they could work well together. The Man of Steel movie already has that Dark Knight feel to it, no doubt. Bale's reaction to seeing Superman for this first time could leave us in awe!
I would almost like to watch a scene of Superman saving Batman at the end of Dark Knight Rises. This could clear up the ending of that movie a little better, and also force Superman to unintentionally introduce himself to Batman. Maybe he could detect the bomb going out to sea and hoped to stop it, or he just finally decided to help Gotham.
Either way if Nolan and Bale are in, I'm interested. If not, maybe JLA should be put to rest for another 20 years ;)



well dont get to hyped because i did for the gl movie and it sucked more than paris hilton


That's what happens when you rely on CGI and mediocre actors to make a good movie. I feel comfortable saying that The Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel relies on good acting to make a good movie. That is the BIG difference. CGI doesn't make a good movie, good directing/writing/acting does.
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03/08/2013 09:18 PM (UTC)
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Loved it, saw it in Imax twice, and a third time in a regular theatre.

Who cares if it doesn't make perfect sense.


Stopped reading right there.
Not making sense is the reason why the movie sucked.

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Why?

Because TDK trilogy was more "realistic"?


The Dark Knight Rises.

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
Bruce had no cartilage in his knee, but a god-like technology knee brace fixed it permanently! The logical way of having Bruce's leg "fixed" would be for him to wear it at all times, even showing it outside the Batman suit, but no, he's never seen wearing it again, without it you would assume his leg is fucked again, but no. Having that bummed leg wasn't even needed in the script at all.

Later, Bruce, with a broken spine, is magically healed again because some random punches his back in place. LAAWWWWLLLLL.


Captured in the run down prison, Bruce is told about the only way out. He watches some guy attempting to climb out, he fails and fall and dies because the rope tied around his waist killed him.
Bruce Wayne attempted and failed two or three fucking times and LIVED!


Mind you, Bruce was in that prison for MONTHS, after escaping, Bruce Wayne travels from India to New York looking fresh, just in time to stop Bane's bomb



Seriously, the Dark Knight Rises is just as "realistic" as if they did have a venom pumped Bane. Don't kid yourself.
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