Injustice: Dark spin-off?
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sonofstarlight
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03/15/2015 05:49 AM (UTC)

How would you feel about an Injustice: Dark Spin-Off? The link has a pic of my dream roster including secret characters and DLC. I'd love to see the gritty take on these characters, especially after Mortal Kombat X.



Thoughts? Ideas?
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cgaddict
03/15/2015 06:20 AM (UTC)
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Personally I think they should both be kept separate. Injustice was a lot of fun, so I'd love to see them do a sequel to that next before starting work on MKXI.
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sonofstarlight
03/15/2015 06:25 AM (UTC)
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How would you feel about this roster for an Injustice 2/spin-off?
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Gillbob316
03/15/2015 06:29 AM (UTC)
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Personally I don't want either... as they'd just eat into development time for MK11.

MK vs DC basically WAS MK8. Which sucks. A main entry in the series shouldn't be a non-canon crossover game.

And Injustice made MKX take about twice as long as it should have, and more or less killed all the mainstream momentum that MK9 had recaptured for the franchise. Which sucks because MKX looks great, and every bit as good, if not better than 9, but is evidently not doing as strong with preorders as 9 did. Not that I think it will fail by any means, but... more momentum and more sales may have meant things like more DLC? Who knows. *Shrug* Still too early to tell conclusively anyway. But regardless I did NOT enjoy waiting this long for a new MK game.

If they want to have a second team develop an Injustice sequel alongside a new MK, be my guest. Though I highly doubt they will, as releasing two fighting games close together is competing with yourself. But I for one, don't want a new DC game AT ALL if it means replacing or delaying a new MK game.
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03/15/2015 08:42 AM (UTC)
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To OP, sorry but I don't know comics well enough to recognize like, any of the characters you have there. Those guys all look pretty cool, though -- I can see a game with those characters being pretty badass just on looks alone. Thing is, they probably wouldn't pursue something like that without a lot of instantly recognizable faces like Injustice has.

I wouldn't mind seeing an even biggerbetter Injustice (that was a damn fun game) but I'm not so sure about tying it in as another MKvsDC. I never hated the idea, but at the same time, MKvsDC is the only MK game I never bought. Plus, they've already played out the crossover story. It would be better if MK and Injustice just followed their own ways.

Gillbob316 Wrote:
Injustice made MKX take about twice as long as it should have, and more or less killed all the mainstream momentum that MK9 had recaptured for the franchise. Which sucks because MKX looks great, and every bit as good, if not better than 9, but is evidently not doing as strong with preorders as 9 did. Not that I think it will fail by any means, but... more momentum and more sales may have meant things like more DLC? Who knows. *Shrug* Still too early to tell conclusively anyway. But regardless I did NOT enjoy waiting this long for a new MK game.

If they want to have a second team develop an Injustice sequel alongside a new MK, be my guest. Though I highly doubt they will, as releasing two fighting games close together is competing with yourself. But I for one, don't want a new DC game AT ALL if it means replacing or delaying a new MK game.


I'm not sure that Injustice really hurt the Mortal Kombat series. It took a while to get the next game out, sure, but you brought up a good point about fighting games competing with themselves. MK9 has some decent staying power now that it's made the tournament scene; it seems like it's okay to let a strong title like that have a while to sit in the spotlight and give players plenty of time to get comfortable and establish themselves with it before one-upping it with the next one -- especially since MK tends to really shake up the game with every release, you don't want to do that too often.

MK9 may be four years old but it remains fresh in the memory, because fighting games have a longer lifespan than games in other genres that have less replayability. The only compelling reason to pump out more MK games faster is to keep the story moving; the reason you need nine Assassin's Creed games in seven years or four Arkham games in four years is because a single-play story has a limited shelf life before you need something new. That invites some frustration with a fighting game because you don't want to keep running your own games off the map just to further the story.

Alternating between MK and Injustice or another original game allows them to keep making games at a consistent pace (and keep making money) while allowing each individual game its time in the sun. And the longer wait does make the next announcement sweeter. I'm not exactly looking forward to another 3-4 years before the next MK, but I'm pretty sure that I'll enjoy whatever else comes out of the pipeline in the meantime.

As for "losing momentum," again, MK9 didn't exactly go away. It was still in Evo 2014, and no one is ever going to just forget that Mortal Kombat exists. If anything is holding MKX back, it's the new generation of consoles, as was pointed out in another thread. A lot of more casual gamers still aren't on board for the price tags and controversies of the PS4/XBO, but don't want to dive in for the last-gen version and end up paying for the game twice when they do upgrade. (That was the dilemma I faced, until I ultimately upgraded.) By contrast, the last generation was well established when MK9 was released and consumers were probably more comfortable.
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03/15/2015 02:03 PM (UTC)
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umbrascitor Wrote:
To OP, sorry but I don't know comics well enough to recognize like, any of the characters you have there. Those guys all look pretty cool, though -- I can see a game with those characters being pretty badass just on looks alone. Thing is, they probably wouldn't pursue something like that without a lot of instantly recognizable faces like Injustice has.

I wouldn't mind seeing an even biggerbetter Injustice (that was a damn fun game) but I'm not so sure about tying it in as another MKvsDC. I never hated the idea, but at the same time, MKvsDC is the only MK game I never bought. Plus, they've already played out the crossover story. It would be better if MK and Injustice just followed their own ways.

Gillbob316 Wrote:
Injustice made MKX take about twice as long as it should have, and more or less killed all the mainstream momentum that MK9 had recaptured for the franchise. Which sucks because MKX looks great, and every bit as good, if not better than 9, but is evidently not doing as strong with preorders as 9 did. Not that I think it will fail by any means, but... more momentum and more sales may have meant things like more DLC? Who knows. *Shrug* Still too early to tell conclusively anyway. But regardless I did NOT enjoy waiting this long for a new MK game.

If they want to have a second team develop an Injustice sequel alongside a new MK, be my guest. Though I highly doubt they will, as releasing two fighting games close together is competing with yourself. But I for one, don't want a new DC game AT ALL if it means replacing or delaying a new MK game.


As for "losing momentum," again, MK9 didn't exactly go away. It was still in Evo 2014, and no one is ever going to just forget that Mortal Kombat exists. If anything is holding MKX back, it's the new generation of consoles, as was pointed out in another thread. A lot of more casual gamers still aren't on board for the price tags and controversies of the PS4/XBO, but don't want to dive in for the last-gen version and end up paying for the game twice when they do upgrade. (That was the dilemma I faced, until I ultimately upgraded.) By contrast, the last generation was well established when MK9 was released and consumers were probably more comfortable.


I'm the one who pointed that out in the other thread for the record. :P

I still have no interest in another DC game if it means replacing or delaying a new MK game. ;)
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03/15/2015 02:12 PM (UTC)
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Gillbob316 Wrote:
Personally I don't want either... as they'd just eat into development time for MK11.

MK vs DC basically WAS MK8. Which sucks. A main entry in the series shouldn't be a non-canon crossover game.

And Injustice made MKX take about twice as long as it should have, and more or less killed all the mainstream momentum that MK9 had recaptured for the franchise. Which sucks because MKX looks great, and every bit as good, if not better than 9, but is evidently not doing as strong with preorders as 9 did. Not that I think it will fail by any means, but... more momentum and more sales may have meant things like more DLC? Who knows. *Shrug* Still too early to tell conclusively anyway. But regardless I did NOT enjoy waiting this long for a new MK game.

If they want to have a second team develop an Injustice sequel alongside a new MK, be my guest. Though I highly doubt they will, as releasing two fighting games close together is competing with yourself. But I for one, don't want a new DC game AT ALL if it means replacing or delaying a new MK game.


I agree, I don't want to wait 4 years until the next MK, and even if there isn't another Injustice and the next MK takes 4 years, at least all the resources would have gone to only one game.

And not that I doubt you, but where did see that the pre orders numbers are lower than MK9?
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03/15/2015 02:23 PM (UTC)
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Yeah,lets rush NRS,make the next MK game for 2017 for a half assed game full of bugs,4 years is a perfect time lapse for the next game to come out
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03/15/2015 08:36 PM (UTC)
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residentfan Wrote:
I agree, I don't want to wait 4 years until the next MK, and even if there isn't another Injustice and the next MK takes 4 years, at least all the resources would have gone to only one game.

And not that I doubt you, but where did see that the pre orders numbers are lower than MK9?


Somebody here reported that their local GameStop isn't getting a midnight release due to lack of preorders, and that MKX underperformed significantly compared to MK9 and Injustice. Other people reported otherwise. Like anything else, I'm sure it varies by location.

Gillbob316 Wrote:
I'm the one who pointed that out in the other thread for the record. :P


Yep, found your comment.

ragnarök Wrote:
Yeah,lets rush NRS,make the next MK game for 2017 for a half assed game full of bugs,4 years is a perfect time lapse for the next game to come out


No one here is asking for a rushed game. They're asking for NRS to focus on MK instead of branching out into other product lines so that we can get more MK faster. MKX would have taken the Injustice slot. It's a reasonable thing to ask for.

I'm still not sure that's a healthy course of action though, because it will saturate the tournament scene that gave MK its newfound credibility, and turn NRS into a company that only does Mortal Kombat instead of having a diverse array of products that appeals to different types of fans.

Personally, I think the only reason four years sounds like a long time is because of the story taking a long time to progress. For the game itself, MK9 ages very well and has pretty much the whole Trilogy roster in it, so from a gameplay standpoint, we didn't really need another one right away. And while the roster of MKX might be more limited, they're taking strides to give it tons of replay value even within the story mode and it sounds like DLC will be a bit more robust than last time. Plus, the comics will most likely continue on way into the next development cycle for the story buffs. So while four years may not be an "ideal" wait, it shouldn't be a terribly hard one.

One more thing to consider is that by alternating their projects, they can give MK larger innovative leaps between games, instead of having "3D era syndrome" where each release was basically a slightly modified incarnation of the previous. Which, again, helps MK to keep its traction in the tournaments, since each game would have significant differences. And maintaining a tournament presence is good for keeping the series in the public eye.
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03/15/2015 09:24 PM (UTC)
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sonofstarlight Wrote:

How would you feel about an Injustice: Dark Spin-Off or possibly a MKX vs DC 2? The link has a pic of my dream roster from the DC side including secret characters and DLC. I'd love to see the gritty take on these characters, especially after Mortal Kombat X.

http://sonofstarlight.tumblr.com/post/113663252803/dream-roster-for-an-injustice-dark-spinoff

Thoughts? Ideas?


No thanks.

It sucks IMO that Injustice is associated with MK because they share the same creator, NRS.

I honestly didn't care much about Injustice and would be happy if they never made the sequel to that game.

MK vs DCU was fun because the fight system/mechanics was wonderful compared to the 3D MK games and of course because of the MK cast. However, I do not want to see a sequel, give me MK11 instead.

Warner Bros have brought back MK from the grave, and for that I am very thankful. But I honestly don't care much for their super heroes.

I love NRS solely for Mortal Kombat.
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05/08/2015 08:12 AM (UTC)
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There is a lot of serious MK fanboy red assed butthurt going on in this thread.

Netherrealm NEEDS to break away from MK if they ever want to actually grow as a developer.
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Tazer_Gunshot
01/14/2016 03:39 PM (UTC)
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No MKvsDC crap. The first one was garbage. Also no to the spin-off thing. Keep Injustice mainstream with original characters.

It is good that Injustice was made, because it spaces out the time between MK games. We don't need an MK game every two years, 4 is fine. Can't wait for Injustice 2, which will be out next year, as it will be revealed at E3 this year.
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