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djwoodford
08/06/2005 01:44 PM (UTC)
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Wait, you said the cheating was in the last round. And you said "Gangbanging" wasn't cheating.

Now even though that's not what we did, at all, are you calling it cheating now?

And if you wan't cheating, how about a mistally of Tanya that meant you could boot her when I was asleep?
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MKKitana
08/06/2005 01:50 PM (UTC)
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djwoodford Wrote:
Wait, you said the cheating was in the last round. And you said "Gangbanging" wasn't cheating.

Now even though that's not what we did, at all, are you calling it cheating now?


Yeah right it's obvious she was gangbanged. And no Im not saying thats cheating.

But if the cheating hadnt went on, she may or may not have been in the position to be gangbanged, therefore her booting is only partly due to the cheating.

And as for me booting Tanya. I think you'll find if you look back, I never once booted Tanya this game.
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djwoodford
08/06/2005 01:55 PM (UTC)
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Me and ty both love Jade, and dislike Sareena. BE has booted Sareena many times, and the other dude I have never seen.

So no, we didn't gangbang her.
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MKKitana
08/06/2005 02:02 PM (UTC)
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Yeah IM sure.

Funny how tgrant suddenly took a dislike to both Sareena AND Kitana after our fall out. Others are witness to how much he used to talk about them and how much he liked Both characters. Yet in recent posts since our fall out, Sareena is 'merely mediocre' and Kitana is 'overrated.' Fair enough, this may be true, but its really funny how his views on both only became like this after our fall out, and he only started booting both AFTER our fallout. Hmmmmm, anyone else seeing a pattern here.

As for me and Tanya, well Ive never liked her and Ive showed it in many posts.

I dont particularly like Jade, but I dont dislike her either. She is just there. But cheating has gone on and she is the character the cheating is surrounding, therefore I'll now be booting Jade, even though normally I wouldnt have done so till later in the game.
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djwoodford
08/06/2005 02:08 PM (UTC)
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You can't base a gangbang on just ty's vote.

Me, BE and some other dude all dislike her, hense she was booted.
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MKKitana
08/06/2005 02:14 PM (UTC)
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Im not basing on just tgrants vote.

And yeah fair enough you may dislike her or whatever, but the fact is, she WAS gangbanged. Its obvious. Its also allowed. Im not disputing that.

The fact is, for all we know, she could have gone before this by now if tgrant hadnt cheated, or she could be on 0,0 now, or she could be on whatever now. The vote editing (The Cheating) has contributing to her being in the position she was this round, and therefore gangbanging or booting or whatever u call it. The same can be said for Jade, who the cheating was aimed at saving.

Cheating should not be allowed to go on when it is at the hands of certain people.
Like I said, MyQueenSindel and his clones were banned in an earlier game, because cloning is Cheating. Well similarly so is editing votes after the tally. Yet because of who it is that got caught doing it, it has been swept under the carpet.

Oh well, the future games sure do look like theyre going to be fun if cheating is allowed to happen.

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djwoodford
08/06/2005 02:16 PM (UTC)
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Well all this ty cheating thing, I couldn't give a shit about to be honest.

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dragonj87
08/06/2005 02:27 PM (UTC)
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Actually, I don't think we should just h8-vote each other back out of spite, even if it would make people happy. It's tough, I don't want to h8-vote tgrant and his coterie and get on their bad side over some game. As much as I would like to h8-vote in retaliation for what looks like a gangbang of one of my favorite characters, it won't accomplish anything and I don't want to get on anyone's bad side. I also actually like Jade (the one they are immuning), she's one of my top ten characters in MK along with Sareena, so I'm happy with either.

It IS just a game, and everyone does need to realize that. If anyone is cheating, then something should be done about it of course. I want to be a pacifist and avoid conflict when possible, but it seems to do that, I'm going to have to be on no one's side.

MKKitana, tgrant, whoever else, I hear you guys are doing this because of some arguement you got in on IRC. You are all cool people, so get whatever sparked this whole drama sorted out and get along, please. This mess shouldn't be dragged over into a public game.

I should've kept my immune vote to Sareena last game so she would've won the game, instead of Shinnok. Maybe then all this crap wouldn't have happened. I just wanted Shinnok to win because ~Crow~ said he had less of a chance winning it, and wouldn't be in a final again. He always wanted Shinnok to win one time, so I wanted to vote him for ~Crow~. I actually like Sareena a lot more. I feel like it's my fault, and that I pissed a lot of people off last game.

You shouldn't immune or boot based on personal vendettas, but rather based on who YOU want. I realize that's what this game is all about now.

MKKitana, tgrant, etc., i'm sorry.

Funny how a lot of thought and writing went into this over a game. I'm such a weak nerd.
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MKKitana
08/06/2005 02:39 PM (UTC)
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Noones blaming you for Sareena not winning. Please get the idea out of your head.You were well within wour right to edit your vote. XiahouDun posted something about a fanboy hiss toward you, but Im sure it was only meant in good jest.

And no this isnt happening because of an argument in IRC. It was a thing between the two of us off the boards, which was brought onto the boards by tgrant and his falsely informed friends.
As for NOT voting due to personal vendettas. Well thats exactly what Ive been doing. If you check my early boots, I played the game the way its supposed to be. Immuning my favourites and bootin my least favourites (Chameleon, Meat, Noob Saibot and Mokap). but others have been doing so. Tgrant has even been booting people he likes in past games. If I had been voting personally against him, Id have instantly went after the characters I know he likes. Which I did not. But its evident he is voting against myself and Crow. Just look back over the past few games and you will see this. Again this is allowed, but its really pitiful.

And Im not booting Jade because tgrant or anyone likes her, but because cheating has gone on and she is the character who the cheating was aimed at helping. Everyone knows danadbab is my best friend on this site, and if I found out he was cheating to help Sindel or whoever for example, Id boot them, because I abhor cheating. its the lowest of the low. I have not said gangbanging or group voting is cheating, but edting after a tally IS cheating.

But anyway. Everyone now knows that the cheating has gone on. Thats good enough for me.
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Oafatron83
08/06/2005 05:44 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Li Mei
Boot: Shujinko
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Afghanblade
08/06/2005 05:46 PM (UTC)
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Immune-Li Mei
Boot-Drahmin
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tgrant
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08/06/2005 06:06 PM (UTC)
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I don't believe this. 3 times now, you've managed to accuse me of cheating and on all three occasions you've been drastically wrong. I got accused because my friends booted Sareena on a previous occasion. Said friends told you exactly why it happened and it turned out it'd had been brough on by yourself. I had nothing to do with, but of course got blamed for it.

I see here now that Sareena got booted and because I booted her it's automatically cheating. I booted Darrius, Shao Kahn and some others out of the game, but no one cried cheat then. But of course they wouldn't because it's not Sareena and it's nothing to do with MKKitana so it couldn't possibly be cheating. You will find I play the game like everyone else. I immune someone and I boot someone. I see other people booted Sareena, but as usual I am to blame. Yet, as usual, I've done nothing wrong.

There was no edit after any tally was posted. I did expalin what happened and explained also to Crow. The edit happened long before the vote was in and most certainly a good time before the tally I posted was there. forgive me for not adjusting the tally scores to what they should've been, such mistakes happen. It happened the previous round and my post was as always edited by Crow. It happened the previous two rounds and as usual, I edited to fix it. But of course nothing was said because Sareena wasn't involved.

As to the supposed dislike of Kitana and Sareena, you're as ever wrong. Kitana is and always will be one of my faves. I don't immune her simpy, because she's always protected by her fans and I have other faves I'd like to immune. I immune her when it comes to final rounds and the Champiosnhip. And yes, she is overated. I have voiced it on many an occasion and this is simply for the same reason as I'd say it for Scorpion or Sonya - it's because of fanboys. I'm a fan of both Sonya and Kitana and hate the fanboyish reactions to them both. And as for Sareena, she's not a fave of mine. She's not been playable in any MK game I've played and the only thing I like about her at the present time is her story. Nothing more. I will boot her if I see fit, not because of some supposed personal vendetta. My votes don't revolve around you, so stop acting like they do.

I shouldn't be having to explain my choice of votes to you or anyone else, but I'm forced to do so because of this.

Once again, there was no edit after the new round was posted. I saw the edit in long before I posted the new round.

dragonj87 - Thankyou for being the voice of reason. Any problems I have with anyone are left where they should be, thanks. I've voted off the characters I hate as always like Darrius as I do at the start of each game. And you didn't get any one mad last game. Don't worry about it.

Said irc arguement was me being cussed out and sworn at because I hadn't agreed to the 12 votes per round rule. Only one other tallier has spoken to me in the way I was spoken to then, but that person had the good decency to apologise for it. And I'm sick of being acccused of stuff going on within these games, stuff which I'm not doing. I hope this is the last time. I'll be glad when these games are finally over with. At least then I'll have one or two less people attacking me.
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MKKitana
08/06/2005 06:27 PM (UTC)
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Yes yes yes. Whatever.

We all know u control peoples voting and u do ask people to boot character you want off, u used to ask me, and a lot of the time it was to get back at certain players.

Its also blatently clear u are voting against myself and crow because of personal problems. You have many times said u hate how people vote persoanlly, yet you cause it.

U falsley informed ur friends...who shouldnt even have been told...of the things going on with us, and their false knowledge has been aired many times in many places.

As for Sareena being booted this game. I never said that was cheating. The cheating was when u edited after the tally. Whether u say u did or not is upto u, but myself and crow both watched it happen. Sareena has been booted in many games, and I never usually comment on it, especially not on the boards. Even when she got gangbanged in the first round a few games ago as an attack against me, I never commented, others did. Yet in IRC, MSN u ALWAYS comment about ur characters being booted, be it by actually voicing ur dislike for their booting directly, or by snide bitchy comments.

But whatever. U have gotten away with your cheating. I hope you are really pleased.

On with game.
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Nikodemus
08/06/2005 06:33 PM (UTC)
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MKKitana stop your fucking bitching and complaining. You know this shit is exactly why I quit playing this game. There is always someone getting pissy about something and accusing others of some form of cheating. There were times when I wanted to boot either Sareena or Kitana and Tgrant convinced me not to because he didn't want YOU to get upset, and I can certainly see why now since I see you moaning about it now. Here's my advice to you and anyone else who bitches...GET A LIFE this is a game!
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08/06/2005 06:39 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Li Mei

Boot: Drahmin
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Oafatron83
08/06/2005 07:12 PM (UTC)
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I just felt like saying this but.....
Nikodemus, you should come back to playing you're sigs were always awesome to look especially that Psylocke one.

I can't comment on the cheating, but I can comment on the fact that the numerous times I have talked to Mr. T on aim not once has he ever tried to persuade me to boot yours or Crows favorites the only thing he has ever done is told me if a new round was up. Also this game has always been known for shady edits too case in point there was one last game I don't remember exactly what happened but a character had been booted and then because I remember i was refreshing alot, thirteenth vote came in new round was quickly up and the character had been saved by last minute editing. But back on topic, I hope you guys can patch everything up with hopefully no spite booting coming out of it... and... to end this everyone vote Kefka on the gamefaqs poll I have money on it wink
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~Crow~
08/06/2005 07:51 PM (UTC)
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You know what I remember from earlier in these games, tgrant?

You, bringing down a flock of people who didn't play on me due to my booting of... Sareena? That's right, Sareena. You were pissed off at me because I booted her. Why the sudden change in heart? Deny it all you want, but your votes make it clear you have personal bias and vendettas with people in this game.

Fair warning, what goes around comes around again.
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Limeicarol
08/06/2005 08:18 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Li mei / boot: Shujinko
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~Crow~
08/06/2005 08:21 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Dairou

Boot: Jade
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Chan_Ming
08/06/2005 08:26 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Sub-Zero
Boot: Jade
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Nikodemus
08/06/2005 08:32 PM (UTC)
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Oafatron83 Wrote:
I just felt like saying this but.....
Nikodemus, you should come back to playing you're sigs were always awesome to look especially that Psylocke one.

I can't comment on the cheating, but I can comment on the fact that the numerous times I have talked to Mr. T on aim not once has he ever tried to persuade me to boot yours or Crows favorites the only thing he has ever done is told me if a new round was up. Also this game has always been known for shady edits too case in point there was one last game I don't remember exactly what happened but a character had been booted and then because I remember i was refreshing alot, thirteenth vote came in new round was quickly up and the character had been saved by last minute editing. But back on topic, I hope you guys can patch everything up with hopefully no spite booting coming out of it... and... to end this everyone vote Kefka on the gamefaqs poll I have money on it wink


Thx Oaf I'd love to return and play BaI because it's a fun concept. Unfortunately, I'm tired of being accused of dirty play and I'm tired of seeing exactly what I see right now on this page; a bunch of bullshit. It's really annoying to have people accuse me of playing dirty and then I see them do exactly what they are accusing me of doing. Almost all the members here that whine and bitch are fucking hypocrites. I don't understand why they even bother playing...they might as well just play the game by themselves in MS Word so their favorite character always wins. sleep
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~Crow~
08/06/2005 08:32 PM (UTC)
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Immune this round:
Booted last round: Sareena, Shujinko
One away from Immune: Baraka, Kenshi, Mavado, Liu Kang, Ashrah
One away from Boot:

Round 24! FIGHT!


Ashrah (6,2)

Baraka (6,0)

Dairou (4,2)
Drahmin (0,4)

Goro (1,1)

Havik (5,0)
Hsu Hao (4,2)

Jade (3,3)
Jax (0,4)
Johnny Cage (0,0)

Kabal (4,2)
Kenshi (6,0)
Kintaro (0,1)

Li Mei (5,0)
Liu Kang (6,2)

Mavado (6,3)

Nightwolf (1,1)
Nitara (5,0)

Sektor (5,1)
Sheeva (0,0)
Smoke (2,0)
Sub-Zero (5,0)

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Booted:

Meat
Moloch
Darrius
Kira
Bo'Rai Cho
Tanya
Fujin
Noob Saibot
Hotaru
Chameleon
Khameleon
Reiko
Jarek
Sindel
Stryker
Sonya
Mokap
Onaga
Mileena
Kobra
Shao Kahn
Motaro
Reptile
Kai
Kano
Rain
Sareena
Shujinko
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My votes:


Immune: Johnny Cage

Boot: Jade
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MKKitana
08/06/2005 08:34 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Dairou
Boot: Jade
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tgrant
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08/06/2005 08:35 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Jade

Boot: Jax
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BlackErmac
08/06/2005 08:37 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Jade..... :\
Boot: Nightwolf
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