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01/17/2005 06:50 AM (UTC)
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immune nightwolf
boot Havik
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RasAlGhul
01/17/2005 07:00 AM (UTC)
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Immune: Quan Chi

Boot: Nightwolf
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RasAlGhul
01/17/2005 07:03 AM (UTC)
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your signature is cool Danadbab! it was funny last year you put the MK1 Shang Tsung instead of the MK2 Shang Tsung.

Would it be possible , for example if Li Mei wins a match to put a 3-D model of her? it would be tough I think no?
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01/17/2005 07:13 AM (UTC)
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There are a few sprite editors who could rig up a Li Mei MK2/3 sprite. I'm good with pixel art, so if anyone needs my help for that, just ask.

In the mean time:

Immune: Mileena
Boot: Liu Kang
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01/17/2005 07:13 AM (UTC)
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RasAlGhul Wrote:
your signature is cool Danadbab! it was funny last year you put the MK1 Shang Tsung instead of the MK2 Shang Tsung.

Would it be possible , for example if Li Mei wins a match to put a 3-D model of her? it would be tough I think no?


im actually gonna have buterbals do the 3-d characters for me.. he has a better cropping tool then i have.. so it will be possible..

i dont know y i did the mk 1 shang last time, since mk2 shang is my fav version of him...
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Quack-Wabbit
01/17/2005 07:28 AM (UTC)
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Hm... there is always an advantage to holding out a seventh vote for a character until after the beginning of a new round.

For example, let's say Havik's score was (4,1).

During the next round, MKO-User A and MKO-User B both vote to immune Havik (who they vote to boot is irrelevant). MKO-User C wants to immune Havik, but she shouldn't.

Why?

Well, if she immunes Havik, he will be immune for the next round... but that is ALL. After that he is vulnerable.

If, on the other hand, she waits for the current scores to be tallied and put up, and immunes Havik right afterwards, he will, in effect be immuned for two turns. He will be immune throughout this turn, and when the votes are tallied again, he'll be listed as IMMUNE, keeping him safe for another whole turn. It's all about timing.

The exception to this rule is if Havik somehow gets into the high-risk category of having as many or more boot votes than he has immune votes. If Havik's score is (5,4) at the beginning of the round and he gets two boots votes boosting his total to (5,6), it's foolish to wait out the round to immune him as he might not even be around for the next round. Sometimes, desperate times call for desperate measures.

Just a small bit of strategy I'm sure you all knew. :)
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01/17/2005 07:51 AM (UTC)
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Quack-Wabbit Wrote:
Hm... there is always an advantage to holding out a seventh vote for a character until after the beginning of a new round.

For example, let's say Havik's score was (4,1).

During the next round, MKO-User A and MKO-User B both vote to immune Havik (who they vote to boot is irrelevant). MKO-User C wants to immune Havik, but she shouldn't.

Why?

Well, if she immunes Havik, he will be immune for the next round... but that is ALL. After that he is vulnerable.

If, on the other hand, she waits for the current scores to be tallied and put up, and immunes Havik right afterwards, he will, in effect be immuned for two turns. He will be immune throughout this turn, and when the votes are tallied again, he'll be listed as IMMUNE, keeping him safe for another whole turn. It's all about timing.

The exception to this rule is if Havik somehow gets into the high-risk category of having as many or more boot votes than he has immune votes. If Havik's score is (5,4) at the beginning of the round and he gets two boots votes boosting his total to (5,6), it's foolish to wait out the round to immune him as he might not even be around for the next round. Sometimes, desperate times call for desperate measures.

Just a small bit of strategy I'm sure you all knew. :)


I do that as often as possible. :P

I use this strategy throughout the day (especially on characters like Shinnok, who I know could get into trouble really easily due to some popularity issues...). I'm mostly afraid to go to sleep if I use it though... I will certainly miss 2-3 rounds sleeping/doing things in the outside world. This is yet another reason this strategy is effective. If Havik is 5,1 when I go to sleep... it is almost certain he will achieve immunity during some point when I am not present, so saving my vote would have definitely been wise.

When I did return, Havik would most likely be coming off an immuned round... so generally if I know I have to leave for an extended period of time, I try to keep my characters with 5-6 immunes.
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01/17/2005 07:54 AM (UTC)
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damn i thought i was the only smart 1 using this strategy.. lol
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Oafatron83
01/17/2005 08:06 AM (UTC)
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Immune: Havik
Boot: Goro
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Quack-Wabbit
01/17/2005 08:12 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Quack-Wabbit Wrote:
Hm... there is always an advantage to holding out a seventh vote for a character until after the beginning of a new round.

For example, let's say Havik's score was (4,1).

During the next round, MKO-User A and MKO-User B both vote to immune Havik (who they vote to boot is irrelevant). MKO-User C wants to immune Havik, but she shouldn't.

Why?

Well, if she immunes Havik, he will be immune for the next round... but that is ALL. After that he is vulnerable.

If, on the other hand, she waits for the current scores to be tallied and put up, and immunes Havik right afterwards, he will, in effect be immuned for two turns. He will be immune throughout this turn, and when the votes are tallied again, he'll be listed as IMMUNE, keeping him safe for another whole turn. It's all about timing.

The exception to this rule is if Havik somehow gets into the high-risk category of having as many or more boot votes than he has immune votes. If Havik's score is (5,4) at the beginning of the round and he gets two boots votes boosting his total to (5,6), it's foolish to wait out the round to immune him as he might not even be around for the next round. Sometimes, desperate times call for desperate measures.

Just a small bit of strategy I'm sure you all knew. :)


I do that as often as possible. :P

I use this strategy throughout the day (especially on characters like Shinnok, who I know could get into trouble really easily due to some popularity issues...). I'm mostly afraid to go to sleep if I use it though... I will certainly miss 2-3 rounds sleeping/doing things in the outside world. This is yet another reason this strategy is effective. If Havik is 5,1 when I go to sleep... it is almost certain he will achieve immunity during some point when I am not present, so saving my vote would have definitely been wise.

When I did return, Havik would most likely be coming off an immuned round... so generally if I know I have to leave for an extended period of time, I try to keep my characters with 5-6 immunes.


Good call.

I sympathize with the "unpopular favourite" thing... my fave is Tanya, though I'm glad to finally get a small bit of support on this one this round. I suspect the bulk of disenfranchised Nitara/Jade fans are joining up with the other women, but don't quote me on that.

It can also be in your best interest to counteract a split vote, as it were.

For example: a Frost fan is most likely a Sub-Zero fan, but a Sub-Zero fan is not necessarily a Frost fan. So, it would be smart for a Sub-Zero fan to pile boot votes on Frost. Why? Because if Frost is eliminated, they will likely join the Sub-Zero fan in voting for Sub-Zero.

Which, I suspect, is why there was such a concentration of Jade votes last round. With Tanya gone early, and Mileena, Li Mei, Nitara, etc., eliminated mid-game, it kind of fell on Jade to hold up the fans of the females (Jade is a more established figure in the MK universe than the less popular Ashrah, which is why Ashrah wasn't the recipient of the vote influx.) The same phenomenon seems to be happening with Tanya this round.

So, just something to think about. If you're a Sonya fan, consider taking out Jax instead of, say, Dairou. Jax fans may be Special Forces fans and join in with your cause.

There's really quite an amount of strategy to be put into a game -- but be sure not to overthink and strip the fun out of it. This happened briefly last game, inciting Sub-Zero/Scorpion fan wars, as well as Sonya/Kitana fan wars (hell on me -- I love both.) What happens then is a nobody fighter like Chameleon or Moloch slides through to the end undetected over all the fighting.

It's basic Survivor 101 really -- make sure no one flies under the radar.
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01/17/2005 08:51 AM (UTC)
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01/17/2005 09:32 AM (UTC)
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Immune: Chameleon

Boot: Kenshi
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01/17/2005 09:35 AM (UTC)
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Every time I go to bed, Raiden gets booted! furious There will be repercussions!!!! furious furious


Immune: Mileena

Boot: Motaro

Quack-Wabbit: I love Tanya too. So I have been helping her when I can. I'm a fan of all the MK females except for Sheeva! We'll talk sometime if you want to.
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01/17/2005 09:53 AM (UTC)
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Regarding the strategy you pointed out QW, I think everyone does it. I've been making a point of telling some players who have been trying to save their fave characters. In this case, that was Tanya. I guess it could backfire eventually if people see what's going on and suddenly mass boot said character. It has happened before.

Anyway, you can be sure Tanya will be supported. I and two of my firends are doing our best for her. And I know you and another member are too. As for Frost, I do like her, but se's overshadowed by some of my other fave femmes of MK. And I really have no idea why everyone hates Ashrah! She owns! I can understand Sonya, but she owns too!

I too love the Sub/Scorp and Sonya/Kitana wars. They still amuse me. And we tried to emphasise the point about nobodies making it through in the last set of games, but people want to eliminate the competition first. In the last set of games if you remember, the then hated Nightwolf won a game and so did the even more hated Cage. As such, when it came to the Championship they were amongst the first out. There were some who made it to the final round who definitely shouldn't have. But that's what makes the game interesting. The shock factor rocks!
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01/17/2005 10:04 AM (UTC)
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I'm big on shock factor, too, but I'm just not crazy about deserving characters being screwed in the process. However, once or twice isn't enough to hurt... even if it means Moloch getting to the finals. :P

Meanwhile, I've sunk my own ship by calling out the Tanya defenders and effectively painting a huge yellow-and-black target on her.

And yeah. Does anyone wanna explain the Ashrah hate to me, too? I'm lost. I've always considered her a unique, fresh perspective on the MK female who's not going around with her skin-bags hanging out the front of her singlet.

(I love ya, but I'm looking at you, Mileena.)
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01/17/2005 11:44 AM (UTC)
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Immune Sareena
Boot Kobra

How big of a shock was it when Jax made it to the final round?
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01/17/2005 12:12 PM (UTC)
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Vote: Mileena

Boot: Goro
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01/17/2005 12:27 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Frost

Boot: Goro
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01/17/2005 01:06 PM (UTC)
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Quack-Wabbit Wrote:
I'm big on shock factor, too, but I'm just not crazy about deserving characters being screwed in the process. However, once or twice isn't enough to hurt... even if it means Moloch getting to the finals. :P

Meanwhile, I've sunk my own ship by calling out the Tanya defenders and effectively painting a huge yellow-and-black target on her.

And yeah. Does anyone wanna explain the Ashrah hate to me, too? I'm lost. I've always considered her a unique, fresh perspective on the MK female who's not going around with her skin-bags hanging out the front of her singlet.

(I love ya, but I'm looking at you, Mileena.)


I know what you mean about the deserving characters. But there are differing views on who is deserving and who is overrated. there'll always be conflict! If Moloch got to the finals, then we’d know something was definitely wrong! Lol!

Tanya has always been a target anyway, so it’ll be no different now that you’ve admitted you’re trying to save her. Raiden is hated and peeps know I like him! It’s just how the game goes!

And dude, Mileena might get ideas if you look at her in the wrong way! Be careful! wink Lol!
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01/17/2005 01:23 PM (UTC)
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Immune:Liu Kang

Boot:Quan Chi
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01/17/2005 01:47 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Kenshi

Boot: Motaro
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01/17/2005 02:54 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Sareena
Boot: Chameleon
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01/17/2005 02:56 PM (UTC)
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Immuned this round: mileena
Booted last round: Raiden
One away from boot:
One away from immune: -kobra



Round 19! FIGHT!


Baraka (1,0)

Chameleon (1,2)
Cyrax (4,0)

Frost (3,0)

Goro (0,5)

Havik (2,1)
Hotaru (2,0)

Jarek (0,4)

Kano (0,1)
Kenshi (3,1)
Kintaro (0,0)
Kira (5,1)
Kobra (6,5)
Kung Lao (5,1)

Li Mei (3,0)
Liu Kang (4,3)

Mileena (immuned)
Motaro (0,3)

Nightwolf (2,1)

Quan Chi (2,2)

Reiko (3,0)
Reptile (3,1)

Sareena (5,1)
Shinnok (0,0)
Sindel (5,1)
Smoke (0,0)

Tanya (0,0)

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BOOTED:

Scorpion
Mokap
Meat
Khameleon
Sonya
Kai
Jade
Kabal
Bo Rai Cho
Noob Saibot
Shujinko
Johnny Cage
Ashrah
Rain
Stryker
Sheeva
Hsu Hao
Dairou
Onaga
Ermac
Fujin
Nitara
Mavado
Darrius
Shao Kahn
Blaze
Jax
Moloch
Drahmin
Raiden

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My votes:

Immune: kobra

Boot: Jarek
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MKKitana
01/17/2005 02:57 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Sareena
Boot: Jarek
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Raiden_is_God
01/17/2005 03:07 PM (UTC)
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Immune: Reptile
Boot: Jarek(FATALITY)
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