I'll make a MKFPK (I think this would be 6 or 7...I have to check with M4C if it is) later on this month. Most likely a week or two.

Well this was a flop. whatever

Dude, I was talking to Zedox yesterday and he said he was going to be gone today. Therefore, the pics will be up tonight or tomorrow. Just wait, thx.

Updating the first post with Entries.

MKR and UR can't vote. Its just the community.

I like UR's background , it's probilby his best. The fake itself isn't that great, but the background is nice.


MKR's I already told him about, but If I must... Everything is nice, but for some reason the sword/arm holding sword doesn't look right. The swords position is just...Wrong, doesn't look like he would have momentum when swinging it or something. The legs are also weird and the arms are too smooth, they don't match his arms that are attatched to his body.


But overall MKR gets my vote.

RYU - Love the background , also the Liu Kang sprite is very nice though the raiden sprite I dont really like.The lightning screams ps or whatever program you used and the blood doesent look to great.

MKR - Both sprites look amazing! the detail just looks awesome and I love how you did the blood, looks to cool dude. The background is ok though.

MKR

First, this showdown idea is good.
As for the fakes, I have no idea what the two voters above are looking at, but I hoped a better rating coming from that Cham dude since he knows graphics, the other guy, well, who cares about his opinion. The second fake looks too FAKE. It's like a painting or something, the other is not so good but it is better looking. Backgrounds, I'll go for the first one as well. The second one looks boring. For the second fake, that was a complete waste of time editing sprites since UR's fake comes out better with less effort.

Not the best fake, could be better, but UR gets my vote. The other one sucks.

UR:
- Love Raiden's lightning effect, as well as the Liu Kang sprite
- Dont know what you were trying to do with Raiden's face, but it failed miserably
- Background was done excellently, i just dont like the positioning of the lightning, the ones on the right look a little too bunched together
- Overall a pretty pleasing fake to look at, but not the best

KMR:
- Love the Reptile and Kai sprites, but really dont like the blood effects thats dripping out of his arms
- Axe is good, but the way he's holding it is kinda wierd
- I backgrounds kinda plain, i wouldve picked a better MK4 stage, like teh snow one or somethin

Overall, kinda disappointed with both entries, but thats because this is a competition and im choosing to judge a little harder. Both had things that made them shine, and both had things that fucked them up.

My vote will have to go to UR, althought there were some pretty bad errors, his is just more pleasing to look at. MKR's is good, but besides the spirtes, its very plain.

UR ~~~~~ 3.5/5
MKR: ~~~~ 3/5

Thats my vote, take it or leave it.

Voting with end when I cast my vote (which won't be until Saturday most likely).

Ooh, i'm anticipating the giant flame war more than the fakes battle!

after all that shit talking, this is what you two have to offer?
jesus christ

First Picture:
Its more than obvious you took Raiden out of a screen shot, and you did a bad job on him. His lighting sucks, I mean its nice but it just isn't what lighting would look like. You got it good in the sky, but Raiden's sucks.
I like the Liu Kang editing A LOT. It made me laugh inside. The stage was done well, but the water drops kinda suck.

Second Picture:
I like the background a lot, and you did very good editing Reptile (that's if you didnt just touch over a pre-existing render of him). It's more than obvious to me where you got the Axe.. and I honestly think it should be bigger. The acid looks... well, I don't like it. You did a very nice job on Kai, and the blood is nice... not too much not to little. Its perfect. I'll admit I couldn't do any better than this.

my vote goes to #2

Both pictures are definately above amature status. Both artists should be happy with their works.

Uhm, I believe that's irrelevant to this thread. Please stay on topic. Thank you.

I'm afraid I like the second fake better than the first. It just feel it's cleaner... I also love those sprite edits. I really like UR's work but my vote ultimately goes to MKR.

Well, this isn't a flame but just my response to what people have been saying...


Umm, yeah, ok... First, you are calling mine too fake?? Righto, Ultimate Ryu slaps a 2D head onto MK4 Raiden's model and you're calling mine too fake...I think you are confused. Anyway, moving on, ...a complete waste of effort? Nah, mine looks better/cleaner than UR's. I can only think of one reason you would think something like that: you are just in love with photoshop effects, and with your sig... I would believe it. I believe bastardized Photoshop effects, filters, etc. do not belong in MK fakes, but that's in my opinion. Whatever, it doesn't look like you know what skill is.



How do you misspell "MKR"? Wow... Um, yeah I agree my fake is boring and plain except for the sprites. Why did I make the rest of it so plain? Because the emphasis was on the sprites. Yeah, ok, I know, I am still learning. I'll try to make my future works less plain and boring. Well, that is if I don't retire. Why would I retire? Because there are idiots out there that don't know what true editing skill is and I find it isn't worth it to make anything if hardly anyone appreciates it. ...Moving on.



... The flame war is over, well better not say that, more like...in hiatus. Until then, how about you stay on topic and vote or something? Thx.



Well, atleast we have some more respectable people responding. Ok, I will admit this fake could have been WAY better, just things like time restraints and lack of interest, which you should know about BlackSaibot.

Um, yeah... I made the Reptile sprite all myself pretty much except for the Sindel base I used for the upper body. Other than that, the Reptile sprite is completly me and PaintShopPro7. Ok, yeah, the axe. The head of the axe did come from MK4, however, its not the exact same since I edited it and such. The handle though, was made by me. Kai was a hard bastard to create I must admit... lots of re-starting was involved with him. The blood, well, I myself think it could be improved. The shading for it seems too unrealistic to me, but thats what I get when I make the blood in an hour to make the time restraints..

Oh well, glad you still like it. You couldn't do any better? Well, that is entirely up to you. I think you could be one of the best if you made fakes more often, but that would mean more devotion and time... some things we all don't seem to have. Thanks for the vote by the way.



Yay, more off topic posts, lets party... Please, just vote or have something to do with the disscussion of the fakes for now. Thx.



Thanks for the vote and the comments.

Well, that is all for now... just don't make this into a flame war.

You know its going to. I see you couldn't help it (responding)...well I know that if this turns into a flame war, I will have the thread closed and announce the winner with the votes that are there now. THERE SHOULDN'T BE A FLAME WAR though. (I think the typo was a little typo but I think you're just ticked off...just calm down.)


I don't want to see anything but VOTING.

It's funny how Rocket tries to dig up up every little excuse. Personally, I expected better from the self proclaimed "Great MKR". His fake is just very generic. Nothing really to look at. Im not saying mine is alot better, but when you start dissing stuff that you dont have the skill to do yourself, it's just sad. Good Fight.

UR- Urs it really good, the sprites are awesome, and how Kangs skin is burned makes it look better. The background is nice, and Raiden's position is cool. Excellent job- 4.5/5

MKR- Reptile looks good, and i guess Kai does too. And it's a good idea, makeing him torture Kai. Nice- 3.5/5

My vote goes to UltimateRyu!

My vote goes to Rocket. Because, you know, his fake's a lot better.

MKRocket.

Okay, I'm going to start with MKR's and go backwards mkay plz? k.

MKR's is smooth and clean, the blood is appropriate, and well, he made a 3D reptile out of a 2D Sindel sprite IN MSPAINT, 'nuff said. For the person that said that it looks 'too fake' like a painting, that element of this fake is a definite plus. It shows the care and accuracy that went into MKR's work, if you knew anything about how MKR works you would know that everything that you mentioned was either incorrect or an understatement. MKR says that he doesn't feel it is finished, yet it is already 5 times better that UR's. Speaking of UR's, let's start on his, shall we? ^_^

>;-D

Where, oh where should I begin? Oh I know, the sprite editing! Okay, MK3 Liu Kang sprite with a badly ripped MK4 Raiden sprite? The least you could have done was use sprites from the same game generation. The horrid spikes on Liu's wrist bands are a testament that you need help if you hope to compare to MKR. The blue lightning...k, if the lightning in the back is white, and Raiden is supposed to be using the same stuff, what color should it be? The core of it at least should be white, something to indicated that he's actually using lightning. Raiden's hat and face are botched. As a fake artist, you should see this and should have done something to balance that out.

The little lightning spear going through Liu has serious issues. First off, lightning isn't even solid, so how can you make a spear? And if it is a spear, shouldn't the blood be coming out of the back of Lui, and not powdered on the groud like some entirely different fatality took place?

It looks like you grabbed some sprites in a background and went over this with a pencil or something, the blood is not believeable, the hair lacks values, the sprites are wrong, where MKR's is too clean, yours is the exact opposite. MKR's could possibly be a small cinematic scene, but by the looks of his work, not only did he get the appropriate look for MK, he even IMPROVED on the look and graphics of what I interpret to be his opinion of how MK should look.

I will admit, both fakes are incredible work, and not being a fake artist, I probably couldn't get half way near the two. But as an artist, I can see where each fake artist's mind and heart was, and UR was trying to make a l33t fake and 5h0w hi5 5ki||z, MKR, as vets do, wanted to share art and his expression through his fake. In that case, they both met their goals, but only one works out in the ultimate battle.

I vote MKR: 4.7/5, UR: 2.6/5.

I feel both pics are equally mediocre. MKR overly dressed up something boring, while UR half-assed a more interesting concept (what was the deal with raiden's face, and his body being the 3D one from mk4?). I'm going to have to vote for who made the lesser of bad choices, and I feel that is UR. His picture is more interesting to look at. All the perfect shading, blood and detail can't save a boring pic.

I vote for Ultimate Ryu

lol, sorry for mispelling your name, MKR. I couldnt really believe it either when I noticed I had done that. I guess i was just too enthusiastic about evaluating both works I was totally oblivious to it.
Anyway, I totally get what you said about people not understanding what "true editing is" and I do commend you on your talent, I was just being more critical because this is a competition. Your sprites are outstanding, but I would have rather you focussed on the fake as a whole, rather than make the sprites the focal point. My vote still stands, but thanks for being a good sport about my comment. And definitely DONT retire!!! We need good fakers over here to overshadow the crap that's making it through the art mods.
Keep it real mi amigo \m/ and I DO anticipate more work from you

I believe this is where it all started. For those who didn't know.

Anyway my votes:

UR:

The background is quite good. Too bad it's mostly just a cut and paste job. And when you look closer nothing in it fits together. The grass on the wall, the flatness of the pedestals and the perspective of the ground. The rain, I guess get the job done at least. Even though the lightning in the background is quite good looking the bolt from Raiden's hand is crappy, to say the least(altough those small sparks look quitre good). And I can't believe people are still doing that lightning effect. The Kang sprite is a rather good idea but it could have been executed better. The Raiden sprite is just horrible partially because you used his MK4 body but also because the head is quite awful. However you still tried to edit, which is good, and I encourage you to do that more in future fakes. And you also did make him a good looking hand. I can't decide wether or not I like the blood. Either you just sprayed randomly with the brush tool or you actually thought about it and made it look like the rain mixed with the blood adn kinda dissolved it. Either way I don't think it looks very good.

MKR:

That skull in the background, I know for a fact is directly from MK4. I'm not sure about the rest of the wall but it's at least put together well and it fits together. However the pillars should be round at the bottom, I think, to make them less flat. And the floor perspective seems to be wrong in this one too. The sprites are really good. The Kai sprite is pretty much very good, though I think there's something wrong with the legs. Other than that I'd say it's as good as, or maybe even better than, the one blacksaibot did some time ago. The Reptile sprite is good too, but IMO not quite as good. He looks fat me thinks. And his left arm(the one holding the axe) looks very stiff and, I may be wrong but, I think it looks like the upperarm is a little to short. The blood just looks awesome. And in closing, I find the idea very boring.

My vote goes to MKR.

The Rocket man...k? k.